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charat wrote:so you're basically making a f***ed up initial D with a schizophrenic main character...
if you perceive it that way then yes.

hehehehe :rotfl :rotfl


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DId I just read that you think your sentra was fun to street race?

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simmode1 wrote:^^^I've seen your screen-name forever, but never put 2 and 2 together until now!



DamonDread, Wheel Of Time is sooo awesome. I stalled out on Book 9 though. Most original fantasy story I've ever read. I love it so much because it reads like a manga to me. I'd love to see it illustrated in manga style...
You only stopped at 9. YOu need to go get the rest i think we are up to 15 now. The story only gets better man. Oh and BTW Robert Jordan passed away, and the rest are being finished by an author hand picked by him. I think that the new author's writing style is a little easier to get into.

OP>> SIM hit the nail on the head bro. Its not really what you write about but how you write it. I recommend you take some time to read some really good story tellers like Jordan, Fiest, Brooks, poets like Ferlinghetti, Whitman, novelists like Hemmingway. As a matter of fact take Hemmingway as the perfect example. Dude wrote about some really BORING s*** but the stories were nothing short of epic. Dont rip them off obviously but just use them as an example of writing STYLE. One of the best amature stories I have ever read was a how to on rebuilding a 4 barrel carburater. ( I know im lame lol) But the way the kid wrote it was AWESOME!
Good luck and keep writing!

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Just because you centered the story on a different car model, doesn't mean its not practically the same story. The Lion King is set in Africa using lions, but its still freaking Hamlet. Avatar may be set on another planet, but its still Ferngully with 30x the budget and 3D (or Dances with Wolves, but Ferngully is funnier). You're still telling the same story as ID and FFTD (as detailed rather well by Eikon). Whether you believe that or not, that is how everyone who reads this novel will react. It matters not that ID and FFTD are not books- the medium by which the story is told is irrelevant. That doesn't mean you shouldn't continue- just recognize that the criticism is going to happen.
Also, you're going about this in a weird way- you're writing this because you love the 240, but the story has nothing to do with the car. Its about the character, the person- not the car. You can pick any car you want, the story is about the person. People that want to read about a car pick up a magazine or read this forum, not a novel. People that read novels want to read about people. or robots. Yeah, make the car a robot instead. But don't make it talk- then it becomes Knight Rider.

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DamonDread wrote:Oh and BTW Robert Jordan passed away, and the rest are being finished by an author hand picked by him. I think that the new author's writing style is a little easier to get into.
Yeah, I heard about his passing. I had thought his wife and his successor were gonna wrap the series up at book 13 or something. That is awesome if they keep it going.
DamonDread wrote:OP>> SIM hit the nail on the head bro. Its not really what you write about but how you write it. I recommend you take some time to read some really good story tellers like Jordan, Fiest, Brooks, poets like Ferlinghetti, Whitman, novelists like Hemmingway..... Dont rip them off obviously but just use them as an example of writing STYLE.
The thing that got me really thinking about the actual process of writing was reading Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series for the second time, including some of it's supplemental info. Tolkien fabricated impossibly rediculous amounts of history and backstory to flesh out the world he created. Dude CREATED entire languages too... There was so much detail that went into Tolkien's stories, that I'm fairly convinced that homie went past Genius-level straight into certifiably insane territory.

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simmode1 wrote:Tolkien fabricated impossibly rediculous amounts of history and backstory to flesh out the world he created. Dude CREATED entire languages too... There was so much detail that went into Tolkien's stories, that I'm fairly convinced that homie went past Genius-level straight into certifiably insane territory.
Either that.. or it's all true! hmm?? :yesnod

btw, I am a huge Tolkien fan! I just re-read The Hobbit a couple months ago.. it brought me right back to the first time I read it when I was in 4th grade. Just fantastic stuff! I just hope Peter Jackson takes better care of the story with his Hobbit movie than he did with his LOTR movies.

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Eikon wrote:I just hope Peter Jackson takes better care of the story with his Hobbit movie than he did with his LOTR movies.
I respectfully disagree with your point of view. I, too, am old enough to have been a big fan of the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings long before the films came out... and I would agree that significant characteristics of the story were changed in the transition between book and screen. However, to say that Jackson did not take care of the story in his films would be ignorance. The films were excellent. Don't sell the films short just because they did not reflect the same qualities as the books. I would highly discourage someone from watching the films in place of reading the books, but the films set a new standard for cinematic excellence. Creative license is acceptable in this circumstance.

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Metal Angel wrote:
Eikon wrote:I just hope Peter Jackson takes better care of the story with his Hobbit movie than he did with his LOTR movies.
.. and I would agree that significant characteristics of the story were changed in the transition between book and screen.
So then we agree.

I never said I didn't like the movies.. They were fantastic!

My point was that Jackson's movies tend to take a lot of license and in the case of The Hobbit, I'm hoping he stays closer to Tolkien's incredible original story. Much of what makes that story so magical is the little intricacies that will surely be glossed over or changed in the movie.

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Ajax wrote:Just because you centered the story on a different car model, doesn't mean its not practically the same story. The Lion King is set in Africa using lions, but its still freaking Hamlet. Avatar may be set on another planet, but its still Ferngully with 30x the budget and 3D (or Dances with Wolves, but Ferngully is funnier). You're still telling the same story as ID and FFTD (as detailed rather well by Eikon). Whether you believe that or not, that is how everyone who reads this novel will react. It matters not that ID and FFTD are not books- the medium by which the story is told is irrelevant. That doesn't mean you shouldn't continue- just recognize that the criticism is going to happen.
Also, you're going about this in a weird way- you're writing this because you love the 240, but the story has nothing to do with the car. Its about the character, the person- not the car. You can pick any car you want, the story is about the person. People that want to read about a car pick up a magazine or read this forum, not a novel. People that read novels want to read about people. or robots. Yeah, make the car a robot instead. But don't make it talk- then it becomes Knight Rider.
Eh theres bound to be similarities. :) For example: you have two Black friends from the same neighborhood. they are bound to have some similarities even though they are two different ppl.....its okay im black so i can say it..........right?.....right?........ :chuckle: :naughty: Oh boy its late at night. lol

PS: the book has everything to do with the car. I didnt think, "Man i wanna write a book about Cameron Hawkins the racer." I thought, "I wanna write a book about the 240. That would be so tight."

I love criticism BTW believe it or not. makes me wanna be a better writer. :D



I havent read tolkien. this makes me wanna go to the book store.

sounds good. now i gotta buy more books to read

crap if i accumulated all of money i spent on books since i was 15 i would have a Nissan GTR plus a new engine for my 240. lol

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That's fine if there are similarities- just recognize that people will criticize for that.
And honestly, from you're description, the story is about the person. Your 1st line says as much- "about a 16 year-old...", "(h)e's got skills", "he meets a girl", "(he) hears voices", "he has to make a decision". The car is at best, a sidekick. Which is fine, because the boy is the more interesting character.

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simmode1 wrote:
DamonDread wrote:Oh and BTW Robert Jordan passed away, and the rest are being finished by an author hand picked by him. I think that the new author's writing style is a little easier to get into.
Yeah, I heard about his passing. I had thought his wife and his successor were gonna wrap the series up at book 13 or something. That is awesome if they keep it going.

Oh they had to split the last book "13" into three seperate books, cuz its soo effin huge. The second of teh three parter is out now. I havnt picked it up yet, but I read the first of the three parter like 6 times now its so good LOL>.

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lol chris i found it!

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Metal Angel wrote:Why would you ever write a story that you can say "of course" about? Write something less predictable. Have him fall in love with a ballet dancer girl who has no appreciation for cars... or better yet, have him fall for a gay fireman. Seriously, you don't get any respect for a story that has already been written.
I don't know why but this is the funniest thing I've seen written so far. LMAO gay fireman. You would bring a whole new crowd into drifting with that one. I can see the movie now, Chuck and Larry go drifting.

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Remember what Sean Connery said "No thinking - that comes later. You must write your first draft with your heart. You rewrite with your head. The first key to writing is... to write, not to think!"
Seems like you have been writing without thinking...BRAVO!

Please post a draft up here, I am looking forward to intense attacks of laughter induced by this "magnificent", "original" story.

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motoman399 wrote:lol chris i found it!
Found what?

:confused:

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PyR0NiAk wrote:
motoman399 wrote:lol chris i found it!
Found what?

:confused:
this thread, me and s13 chris were talking at our local meet last night and he was telling me about the epic thread lol. is your name chris too.. didnt know that sorry.

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See, the problem here is, there is a basic hero story. Which is basically the same anywhere you go. Hero, saviour, protagonist, the underdog who realizes their potential...it's there. No matter where you look, unless you take it from another perspective.

F&F, Initial D, Avatar, The Bible, Speed Racer, Dune, woo, kid grows up, he's the hero, blah blah blah.

You can have more than one main character...that's a bit different.
How about you have your hero fail epically, then have him redeem himself years later...in another book! Get people saying "How the hell could you end the story like that!"

Maybe you should focus on the kids father's struggle to start drifting on the mountain instead of focusing on the kid (like everyone else) Then you could show how the dad falls in love, gets the girl, trains his child to be his prodigy...
I personally think that'd be a much more interesting and original story.. come on, we can work this out together, I only want 10% for helping you make an international best seller! :biggrin:

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simmode1 wrote:
DamonDread wrote:Oh and BTW Robert Jordan passed away, and the rest are being finished by an author hand picked by him. I think that the new author's writing style is a little easier to get into.
Yeah, I heard about his passing. I had thought his wife and his successor were gonna wrap the series up at book 13 or something. That is awesome if they keep it going.
DamonDread wrote:OP>> SIM hit the nail on the head bro. Its not really what you write about but how you write it. I recommend you take some time to read some really good story tellers like Jordan, Fiest, Brooks, poets like Ferlinghetti, Whitman, novelists like Hemmingway..... Dont rip them off obviously but just use them as an example of writing STYLE.
The thing that got me really thinking about the actual process of writing was reading Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series for the second time, including some of it's supplemental info. Tolkien fabricated impossibly rediculous amounts of history and backstory to flesh out the world he created. Dude CREATED entire languages too... There was so much detail that went into Tolkien's stories, that I'm fairly convinced that homie went past Genius-level straight into certifiably insane territory.
Book 13 was a piece of crap...and I've been reading the series since the 3rd book was released. I'll read the last one just to give myself a sense of conclusion.
To be honest, the sword of truth was a better series..nostalgia for Jordan aside. WoT has better characters and development though.

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motoman399 wrote:
PyR0NiAk wrote: Found what?

:confused:
this thread, me and s13 chris were talking at our local meet last night and he was telling me about the epic thread lol. is your name chris too.. didnt know that sorry.
Yes, it is.

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And here I was thinking, "The internet could use another REALLY BAD fanfic about something stupid..."

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flohtingPoint wrote:And here I was thinking, "The internet could use another REALLY BAD fanfic about something stupid..."
As info, if you mention the name "Skyhawk" to a person 40 or over, they will instantly think of an imfamous Buick.

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But Sky corvair has a nice ring to it. (j/k)

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PantherRacer wrote: You can have more than one main character...that's a bit different.
How about you have your hero fail epically, then have him redeem himself years later...in another book! Get people saying "How the hell could you end the story like that!"

Maybe you should focus on the kids father's struggle to start drifting on the mountain instead of focusing on the kid (like everyone else) Then you could show how the dad falls in love, gets the girl, trains his child to be his prodigy...
I personally think that'd be a much more interesting and original story.. come on, we can work this out together, I only want 10% for helping you make an international best seller! :biggrin:
So the kid likes a girl and likes mountain drifting. His dad does the ultimate cockblock and steals her. EPIC.

And now I wish that was the story of Nala.

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Well I hope that if you do write this book you don't make any money off of it. If you do, you are sure to be sued for plagiarism.

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lamonsterscorner wrote: ...and a sick Diff
:eek:
Sounds like a problem.
Bubba1 wrote:
As info, if you mention the name "Skyhawk" to a person 40 or over, they will instantly think of an imfamous Buick.

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But Sky corvair has a nice ring to it. (j/k)
Oh snap! I thought the same when I saw it too, except my dad had the 2nd gen Skyhawk. I liked it for some reason. :

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/threadjack

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Wouldn't call it a thread jack. You're just making it worth more than a laugh.

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Hey look! They made your book into a movie already!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86wKWjvUD50[/youtube]

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wtf ^^ obviously man on man ftw... screw babys??
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Your huge into literature, but you have never read tolken and it took an internet car forum mentioning the name for you to be interested?

You love the 240, and are passionate to tell the story of someone coming up in racing and building their 240 into a drift machine... Yet the only racing you have done is street racing, you have never owned a 240 that could move under its own power and don't even know enough about building cars to know what engine you can put in it (or that you can put any engine in anythinng...)

You love writing and the written word, but still don't mind murdering it like you did in your first few posts...

Maybe its just because I am predispositioned to hate amateur writers and the whole "look how well I write" writing style, and maybe I am pretty opinionated about cars and racing.... But I cannot see this being much more then a random fanboy babbling in cliches about "I wanna write a book about the 240. That would be so tight."

Don't know you, don't know the book but this seems like even if its not the same story line it will be equally as cheesy as FNF, only instead of turning my brain off and watching a dumb movie with cool stunts I have to sit and read.

Maybe post a passage you think would get us going up here?

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yikes

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crappy book wrote:(By the way Odd's my best friend. He's been my best friend since I was born. I’m for real, ever since I came out the you-know-what. You’ll meet him later.
I stopped reading after I got to that part. :facepalm:


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