Single Lug (F1 style) Wheels

[IowaRB240SX]

Why aren't there more of these? I have only seen one company that makes them and it was MB Motoring. They weren't bad but would like to see more styles. Lowriders use single spinners on their wire wheels. NAd if they stay on an F1 at 200+ mph, why wouldn't they bee fine on a normal car. Plus, they look sweet.

I think I will design a set. After all, I work with a 3D modeling program all day at work. Any suggestions on a style?

[ZiG]

why? Sounds rice to me..

Anyhow, dont you have to torque those bishez to some extreme number?

[IowaRB240SX]

Nothing an impact can't handle. And you can impact them because you are distributing the force evenly, not like with lugs where you can warp the wheel.

RICE? What? F1 is the hottest motorsport for road racing and you are calling their rims rice?

[nismofly]

wtf are you talking about style for? its a big 6 sided nut that goes on a special hub

the conversion to centerlock hubs on a street car would cost something like $10,000

F1 and other motorsports that have these use them to speed up the tire changing process

you cant use a normal impact for these, it takes a special gun

nobody, especially not MB motorsport, produces these wheels for a street car, youd need to get a custom wheel company like CCW to make you a set with the centerlock mating area

and wtf are you talking about lowriders have these? lowriders have normal lugs just like any car, all youre looking at is the center cap, the same thing most wheels have, its just got a fancy design

this is just stupid

[240sxautox]

^ pwnd the OP.

But here's a conversion deal- I'd take the brembos featured in the picture anyday.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index....oduct

[240sxautox]

Oh and companies do make wheels featuring that... such as BBS... one of the sponsors of F1.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index....oduct

^ f**king check out the lip on those wheels at least- have fun with that fender pull for those of you in search of the wheel tuck.

[nismofly]

those are road race BBS wheels, you cant run them on the street

all the custom wheel companies can make you centerlock race wheels no problem too, its making centerlock street wheels thatd be an interesting deal

also those hubs wouldnt work without extensive work and buying more parts, its not just the hubs involved in the conversion

and yes, brembo indy's are the hotness

[IowaRB240SX]

Who's (edited) stupid? You? Ok, your right.

True knock-off wire wheels, like the ones made by Dayton, not O'Generico like the ones most wannabe's buy, are held on with the spinner alone. Old european cars like Jag's came with them too. They come with an adapter that bolts on using your lugs, it has a treaded and splined post in the center for the spinner to screw onto and the don't cost $10,000. And the only pressure required to hold them on, while 3-wheeling, hopping, or whatever, is applied by a lead mallot and beating it tight. Not crazy amounts of force, no special locking mechanism. And the moves they do on hydraulics put way more strain on them than drag, drift, or road racing will. Plus you don't have to design them to have a huge center lug as can bee seen in the pictures below.

Some examples:

Retard!

[IowaRB240SX]

240sxautox: That's an even sweeter set-up if you were going for pure race. But i don't think most people are building s full race car, so a less expensive adapter would do. But in the case the ones you posted, a good race car builder could make you some control arms to use those easily enough. And probably for under $10,000.

[nismofly]

neither the ferrari or the car in the last picture are using a conversion...theyre using true centerlock hubs like the ones 240sxautox posted, and a conversion to a true system would be incredibly expensive, because ive looked into it just for ****s and giggles

if you just want to put spacers on that let you use the wheels, which are exactly what youre talking about, go right ahead, but theyre just spacers, dont go around telling people youve got the same thing as an f1 car

[IowaRB240SX]

I never said it would be the exact same thing. Only styled after it. Read it in english next time.

[nismofly]

i could say this is F1 style also



anything that resembles them could be called "style"...instead of worrying about people reading you should be more specific in the first place

plus you say its not rice because f1 run them...but if youre not using these wheels for a functional purpose like f1, alms, some touring car series, etc...then id have to be inclined to call them rice as well

[dickie]

Iowa, you totally put up a thread called, "single lug conversion." Nismofly, who I am 100% sure knows more about anything related to this topic than you, came in and shared some knowledge and his opinion on the thread (which was a fair approximation imho too) and you sink to personal attacks because you felt insulted by the facts?

[bone_stock_240]

Well, it is because he is such a mad tye drifter that he goes through a set of tires in like 10 minutes, so he needs to be able to change them quickly. I wonder if the centre lock hubs come in pink?

[IowaRB240SX]

UMMM, read the thread title again. It in no way says anything about "single lug conversion". And sorry I took it personnally, but Nismo apperently didn't know all the facts befor he started spouting off. And it wasn't what he said, it was the way he said it with the "WTF are you talking about..." s hit. He ASSUMED I was talking a full on F1 conversion, I wasn't. I was talking about an adapter to have the "style" of an F1 wheel. Kinda like the one for the wire wheels I posted that do not have a center cap covering the lugs and ARE held on with only the spinner. So who doesn't know all the facts? Plus he said the conversion to the F1 type hub would cost $10,000, but by the prices I see in autx's links they cost less than $1000 each corner. In my mathematical world that only ads up to $4000 if you round up. I guess that is pretty close to $10,000 if you are running for president.
Modified by IowaRB240SX at 7:26 AM 6/19/2007

[bone_stock_240]

A guy from my local forum was selling centre locking work equip rims.

http://www.son240sx.ca/forums/...24286

I think his name on nico is mat180

[Rex]

IowaRB - relax. And do not circumvent the profanity filters in the future.

There was obviously a misunderstanding in this thread.

It seems the idea of a "single lug look" and running F1 single lug hubs was confused.

Seems clear the OP was not after a true F! "type" single lug conversion, just interested in how to achieve the style of such.

Back on topic, please.

[dickie]

you didnt make any of that clear until after nismo entered the thread... and how does any of that justify calling him "stupid" and a "retard?"

it was your lack of information or more likely your lack of ability to express what you were thinking that started the whole misunderstanding, you could have been adult about it and set an example but the reaction you threw up was surprisingly childish for someone who has been around this long. i kinda expected more

[IowaRB240SX]

WOW, I guess Nismofly was right again, "nobody would make these for a street car".

But I'm the dumbass. I'm 100% sure he isn't smarter than me. FO!
Modified by IowaRB240SX at 8:20 AM 6/19/2007

[p1rat3]

One of my friends had center locking wheels on his rx-7 until a van hit it doing like 70 and bent half of them. They dont cost 10 grand and you can do it for street cars.

[tomkun-s13]

well all I have to say is, I think it would be cool to have the setup. I've been in and around the impound and recovery business for almost 20yrs and the one thing I fear about them is the nut likes to back off when going reverse, lol. I would laugh my a** off when the rookie tow drivers would hook up to the mgs, and jags, and watch them almost always loose the car after about a mile or two. You just have to tap the carrier and use a cotter pin so the nut wont back out when in reverse.

[IowaRB240SX]

Bone-stock, cool find. not my styling choice, but the type of lug design I had in mind.

d!ck, it clearly says "F1 style" in the header, not F1 conversion, not actual F1 wheels on your car, merely style. That usually means the look like something, not that they are that something.

[IowaRB240SX]

Yeah, splining the adapter would help prevent that for the most part. If the rim can't spin, then it can't spin the nut off.

[bone_stock_240]

Maybe you should but actual F1 wheels on your car. Think about the stagger. That would be badass. They have good offset too. It seems that tires would be a little pricey though.

[IowaRB240SX]

bone stock, can you get ahold of that guy and see if he still has them? I may be interested in them.

Real BBS F1 wheels are pricey as hell, not alone the tires.

Sweetness.

[bone_stock_240]

Yeah, I was joking about that. That would look ridiculous. Alright, I will message him and see what he says.

edit: They have been sold

[IowaRB240SX]

I bet they would look pretty sweet on a 76 Datsun 280z with a wide flares lokkking like an oldschool JGTC.

[IowaRB240SX]

Here they are. For those of you that care.

[Reno]

Iowa, you totally put up a thread called, "single lug conversion." Nismofly, who I am 100% sure knows more about anything related to this topic than you, came in and shared some knowledge and his opinion on the thread (which was a fair approximation imho too) and you sink to personal attacks because you felt insulted by the facts?

[ZiG]

RICE? What? F1 is the hottest motorsport for road racing and you are calling their rims rice?

So if you stuck a bigass grand touring spoiler on your scion, it wouldnt be rice because "race cars have it"?