Silver or Bronze on red s13?

[Bubba1]

Well I know I'm getting some FN's in 17x9 +20 in either silver or bronze from SPL. The bronze are already made, the silvers will be made this spring. So I'm trying to decide which color to get, bronze or silver.

Pic of my car.

The wheels in silver. As if we all dont know what FN's look like.

And the bronze.

Later on the windows will be tinted and the car will be repainted to a candy apple type color (moreless a little darker then stock 240 red). Please help me decide what do to, I go back and forward everyday.

I think each has a slightly different appeal. If you want your car immeidately noticed, traditional shiny silver wheels on a red sports car will always catch a person's eye first, but people tend to notice the wheels first, then the car. Its the stark contrast that does it. Bronze is more subdued, so it will not catch people's eye as quickly, but when they do see it, they'll notice the car before the wheels. Bronze will also hide brake dust better than silver.

I've always had silver wheels on my red cars as I prefer a brighter look, but bronze does has a nice classy look too. Hmmm. I say go with what moves you.

[youngmanvr4]

Yea the problem is I love both. The bronze give a just plan sweet look. The silvers look great too and they do yes catch your eye more. Thats why I like the silvers are for eye catching. Right now the paint and the body on the car is not the best, so with bronze wheels will you see the bad paint and body (dents) sooner as to with silver wheels where like you guys said wont catch the body as much?

I've also though that darker wheels dont look as good when moving, but look better then lighter still sometimes, but lighter wheels look better when moving then darker.

I want to find some pics of a red s13 hatch with some 5 spoke wheels (prefered FN's), and compare with repos.

[nismofly]

so you dont want 7 spokes then?

[youngmanvr4]

Most likely not but I'll look at anything.

[youngmanvr4]

Could someone please photoshop the silvers, I dont need a photoshop of the bronze since we have repo's pics. But a photoshop of the silvers would be awesome to compare with. If it would be easier to use repo's to photoshop and as long as repo wouldn't mind I'd be just fine with that. So if someone could photoshop that would be great.

[youngmanvr4]

I saw some 57 PRO's today, they're really nice wheels but $380 a wheel is just little much. I could do it but I dont know if its worth that much. The sizing is 17x8 and 17x9 both the +35. Which would fit better? Would it still be better to get the FN's for fitment over the 57 PRO's?

In one of the issues of Modified Mag their is a red coupe with 57 PRO's and that car looks sooo nice. If I did get the 57 PRO's I get it in the gold with the polished lip. Which would look killer becuase it would be a light or almost light wheel so it would look good moving, its gold and gold on red is just sweet, plus the polished lip, fitment and price are the major two things. I could make the price work. FN's would cost around $850 total and 57 PRO's would cost around $1,500, so its a extra $650 for a nicer looking will that not may have on s13's. So the other big thing is fitment, I would rather have a nice looking wheel that fits better than a great looking wheel that doesn't fit as good. Performance over apperal. So what do you guys think about that? And fitment?

What I'm thinking right now (I'll most likely change my mind again lol) is if I get the FN's I'm pretty sure I'll get the silver's, but if the fitment is ok and I can work out the price I might get the gold and polished lip 57 PRO's.

[nismofly]

heres JustinStrife's car with 17x7 +25 and 17x8 +35 57 pro's, or you could also run 17x8 +35 all around which is what repo has...either way i love these wheels, imo theyre totally worth the extra money

[youngmanvr4]

I forgot about Justins car, I've looked at that car alot. If I ran 17x8 all around (+35) would I need a pull in the front? What tire could I run? I dont like streching the tires. Any spacer to make it fit?

I always ask me dad what we thinks about stuff, so I've asked him about the FN's and 57C's and PRO's. The reason why I do is one, he is in his 40's, he has a different opinion than I do. Second, we is wise and makes me think about things so thats why I ask him what he thinks. I ask him it insure I dont buy something I'm not going to like. So I asked him about the 57 PRO's and told him the price difference from PRO's to FN's, he said he like the silver FN's but if he were to get a gold/bronze wheel he would get the PRO's in a heart beat. But then he did ask if I was going to drift with these wheels, I said yes. He then said he wouldn't drift with pricey wheels. So whats you guys opinion of this? I have three options, One is to get the FN's and if something happens I just spend $200 and get a new one, Two, get the PRO's and if something happens try to come up with something ($400 a wheel), Three, get the PRO's and then get another good used cheap drift wheel later. How much does drifting itself really damage or hurt the wheels.

Also will the 17x9 +35 fit all around ? With what tires?

[nismofly]

17x9 +35 wont work all around, rears only

17x9 in front is for looks, it wont help and will probably hurt performance

17x8 +35 all around with 215/45/17 is what repo has, no fender modification needed

my advice would be to run the steelies you have for drifting, at least in the rear, and get a set of the 57 pros in 17x8 +35 all around

[youngmanvr4]

I'm 99% sure I'm doing the 57 PRO's. I know I can make it work money wise and I think I'll be so much happier this way. Then for drifiting I might do some drifting on the PRO's but use the steelies and get another set of wheels for drifting. Could I run 235/45 on the 17x8's all around? Would that clear without pulling?

Also the red s13 I saw in modified mag has 17x8 in the front and 17x9 in the back, it looks sweet with that extra lip in the rear but would I really gain anything doing it that way? What size tire would I be able to run in the rear without the pulling? The only part that would suck is not being able to rotate the tires. What would I need to do to get the 17x9's in the rear to clear 245/40's or 255/40's (I can get some Falkens ST 115's in thoughs sizes for both the same price)? Which will fit better?

Also repo doesn't have any fender mods at all...no fender rolling? I know with 235/45 I'll have to roll the fenders right?

Modified by youngmanvr4 at 3:00 PM 1/15/2006
Modified by youngmanvr4 at 3:11 PM 1/15/2006

[nismofly]

if youre planning on getting coilovers with a 17x8 +35 in the front youll need 215/45/17

therefore if you want to stagger you could run a 235/40 on the rear with a 9 inch, or if you want to leave it you could just run the 8s all around

depends how much you want to be spending on tires

[youngmanvr4]

You cant fit 235 in the fronts with coilovers? I'm not going to lower it all the way or anything. I like just a little bit of wheel gap, I dont like the tires being tuck under the fender at all, I like it just alittle less lowered then Justins. I mean repo is sitting on 215/45's without a roll at all so with a roll on the same spec wheel and a 235/45 in the front it still wont fit?

I think I'll just stick with the 8's all around with a 235 in the rear.

Also what is Justin running on the fronts with the 7's for tires, and whats he running on the rears?

[nismofly]

rolling the fender has nothing to do with the tire clearing the coilover...with +35 on an 8 in wide you wont fit more than a 215 without the tire rubbing the coilover

you could maybe run a 235/40 with like a x8 +20, but you said you were more concerned with performance anyway

[youngmanvr4]

I feel stupid, I totally forgot about rubbing the coil-overs. Could a spacer fix that and fit to use 235/45's?

I was just looking on Gram Lights site and they say they make a 17x8 +12, +27 and the +35. But I cant find a place that sell the +12 and +27. Would these be a better size to run or just stay with the +35? If I did either I'd guess the +27's.

[nismofly]

you get access to all the better gram lights sizes with 5 lug, but you dont want to do that now do you?

[youngmanvr4]

Well no I dont want 5 lug right now. I just looked under the 4 lug specs on their site and they showed +12, +27 and +35 under 17x8 and 4 lug. http://www.gramlights.com/wheels/57pro/

So would I be able to fit 235/45's on with a roll and a spacer? I just dont want streched, will 215/45 be streched on 8's? And if I did do x8 and 235/45 in the rear will I need to roll still?

[nismofly]

haha the place i was looking at doesnt carry all the variations apparently...

the problem is you dont want a roll, and you dont want spacers, when you can just get good wheels in the first place

why do you want to run 235s up front anyway?

[youngmanvr4]

I want to run 235 up front just to have a meaner tire.

So really 17x8 +35 with 215/45 front and 235/45 back I just up the wheels on and go, no fender mods at all.

Where were you looking at for the PRO's?

[nismofly]

if youre going to stagger tire sizes, you might as well stagger wheels too, and i didnt know there was lower 4 lug offsets available...therefore run the 17x8 +27 with 225/45/17 up front and 17x9 +35 rear with a 245/40/17

[youngmanvr4]

if youre going to stagger tire sizes, you might as well stagger wheels too, and i didnt know there was lower 4 lug offsets available...therefore run the 17x8 +27 with 225/45/17 up front and 17x9 +35 rear with a 245/40/17

Well the idea of running stagger tires is to not have as much stretched tire.

On Gram Lights they show you can even get 17x9 +27. I would have to roll then fenders to get the 17x8 +27 225/45 front and 17x9 +35 245/40 to fit right?

BTW, Chris, thanks so much for helping me out. Do you have AIM? It would be much easier to just chat over that way.

[youngmanvr4]

I was looking at cardomain for other 240sx with 57pros and found one with 17x7 +25 in front and 17x9 +35 back, for me it was almost to much dish for 17's.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/594291/10

Maybe with more dish up front it would look better but it me it just looks like to much in the rear. Though the s13 in my mag are running 17x8f and 17x9r with 255/40 all around and Tein coil-overs. If I could get it to look like that then I'd get the x9's in the rear.

I think I'll just go with the 17x8 +35 all around though now I think about it. And I'm going to get 235/45's all arounf til I get coil-overs (I would think 235/45 would clear stock suspension all around ). Then take the fronts off and put the lagerest tire I can up there withother rubbing and keep the used front tires and burn them off on the rears:D. The 215's I'd get are $75 and the 235's are $89 Falken ST 115's. Which is pretty good pricing IMO. That is unless I can get the wheels to look and fit like the ones in my mag (I feel like a ricer saying that lol)
Modified by youngmanvr4 at 11:20 PM 1/15/2006

[nismofly]

if you get 17x8 all around get +27

you can run at least a 225/45/17 that way, itll be square on an 8 inch, the 235 will probably still be pushing it with coilovers

you can sort of tell with mine, im running a 225 on a 7.5 inch wide

aim is same as username on here by the way

[nismofly]

heres a little better idea of the square-ness of a 225 on a 7.5, on an 8 its perfect

[youngmanvr4]

But I wouldn't be able to run 225's on a x8 +35?

[nismofly]

not with coilovers, the tire would rub...its that close

theres no problem running the +27 instead of the +35, itll just stick out 8mm more

my wheel/tire combo in the pics is a 7.5 +22, which sticks out 1mm more than a x8 +27, theres no problems with it

[le_ryan]

if you got Gran Turismo 3or4 you can see what both look like on the game, thats how i planed on what rims im getting. but ide go with bronze

[Repo Man]

Guys, this is all good information. Please don't deprive the archives by taking it to AIM. If anyone is still interested, you may of course photochop my car to show what any given wheel would look like.

Chris, nice job of working this thread. I apologize that I have been away for the weekend. I actually got to spend time AWAY from the computer for a couple of days.

My tire size is 215-45-17 Toyo 4. I got them in 98% condition for $500 + shipping. Wheels and tires. There is the reason beyond the perfect fit and function that I bought "played out" wheels. I don't think I have ever shared that. It was a deal that I could not pass up.

repo

[youngmanvr4]

I emailed the guy with the red 240 in the mag and got this reply this morning.

"Hello, Thank you for your email. The wheels are exactly that 17x8 in front and 17x9 in the rear with 35mm offset all the way around. We did have to use a 1/4in spacer in front but that was for clearance of the big brakes. The tire size is 255/40 in the rear and 215/40 up front. If I had it to do again I think I would use a 7 1/2 up front due to the tire size. We had a hard time finding a smaller diameter tire up front versus the rear. We did not roll or flare any of the body panels at all. Hope this helps. Regards, Dave."

I might do this, I love the looks of it. And like him, I wont have to do any rolling or pulling. What do you guys think?

Yea repo I decided not to AIM that way others can look and get some great info from this thread.

[Looneybomber]

I am curious why you want to go with something as drastic as 215's x 255's as opposed to 215's or 225's x 235's? Is it purely for looks or do you have 400hp and want to drag race?

[nismofly]

with the spacer that puts that at a 17x8 +28, only 1mm more than the +27...also hes got a 40mm stagger which is kind of big

id say run the 17x8 +27 front, which will look the same as his, with a 225/45/17, to lessen the stagger by 10mm, then get the 17x9 +35 with the 255/40/17 in the rear