Sil40 Sil80? whats the defference??

[badbob2121]

ya im tracking now about the whole "sil" terminology... just wanted to kinda be a smartass... thanks though i appreciate all the feedback everyone

[TJcars2]

Also, if you have 240sx quarter glass and tail lights and you have a s13 Silvia front end on a s13 HB and say it's a sil-80

Above case would be sil-40. However unless it's RHD it's not the actual thing. Itt's just a name. Just like my S12 isn't actually a Silvia, It's a 200sx. I'm still gonna call it a Silvia tho.

[J14cm7]

I just told you. The engine in either the 180 or the 200 originally was the 1.8.Then after they stopped making the 1.8, they put the 2.0 in both.

This is true, but it doesn't reflect on every car ever made. Take BMWs naming system for example. The number generally has nothing to do with the engine.

I dont care if you have posted 1 million times. You can call me a noob all you like but you are dead wrong. The first year they offered the 200sx it came standard with a 2.0L engine therefor the name 200SX. If you did research you wouldnt look as foolish. The coupe ONLY had a 2.0L and the fastback had both offerered so you sir are DEAD WRONG. in japan and elsewhere it was called completly diff things.

Second. WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT BMWs. Nissan names all its cars based on the standard engine it comes with all the way back to the Zs from the 70s.

Lets go over the history and you might notice a trend

240Z=2.4L260Z=2.6L280Z=2.8L280ZX=2.8L300ZX=3.0L180sx=1.8L200sx= first year had a 2.0L ENGINE240sx=2.4L350Z=3.5L370Z=3.7L

Thats interesting stuff. I hope we all learned alot.

[J14cm7]

One is entirely JDM (sil80), the other is one half JDM, one half US market(sil40).

Anyone who walks around calling their car a sil40 is an idiot. your getting to technical with this. ppl call it a sil80 because it LOOKS like an actual sil80. Who cares if it was JDM or not.

[Veriest1]

Take BMWs naming system for example. The number generally has nothing to do with the engine.

325 = 2.5 liter328 = 2.8 liter330 = 3.0 liter525 = 2.5 literetc.

Most of the lineup is that way. The first number is the chassis the second is the engine. There are some that don't go that way such as the 335, 535, etc. (However, all the x35 cars have the same twin turbo engine in them). But this is the exception rather than the rule.

[Dattebayo]

If you did research you wouldnt look as foolish. The coupe ONLY had a 2.0L and the fastback had both offerered so you sir are DEAD WRONG. in japan and elsewhere it was called completly diff things.

Okay, get mad if you want. It doesn't change that not all of them are named for the displacement. I honestly don't see why "the original" or a coupe has anything to do with what you are trying to prove here.

It seems like you got your information from wiki and are treating it like fact. The whole idea of "research" you talk about is just stupid. Can it already.

Second. WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT BMWs. Nissan names all its cars based on the standard engine it comes with all the way back to the Zs from the 70s.

Well, if that were true, then why did they change it all up in the late 70s and early 80s? You said every car they make follows that name equals displacement thing. Its not true anymore since the s110. SO deal with it.

Anyone who walks around calling their car a sil40 is an idiot.

Oh, so they are idiots because they drive a 240sx with a silvia front on it?

your getting to technical with this. ppl call it a sil80 because it LOOKS like an actual sil80. Who cares if it was JDM or not.

No it doesn't. Whats it say on that rear center piece again? 180sx? I didn't think so.
Modified by Dattebayo at 3:06 AM 1/31/2010

[Dattebayo]

325 = 2.5 liter328 = 2.8 liter330 = 3.0 liter525 = 2.5 literetc.

Most of the lineup is that way. The first number is the chassis the second is the engine. There are some that don't go that way such as the 335, 535, etc. (However, all the x35 cars have the same twin turbo engine in them). But this is the exception rather than the rule.

Well, TBH, I was referring to the older ones with differences. but thanks for helping. lol

[Veriest1]

I have a sil40 coupe... wait... wut?

Well, TBH, I was referring to the older ones with differences. but thanks for helping. lol

Aye, prior to the 3 series and such they're a bit random.I still have a hard time following the letters they tack on.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I just call them ugly hunks of s***.
Modified by ILoveMyRHS13 at 3:59 AM 1/31/2010

[ZootedS13]

Who cares if it was JDM or not.

lol a lot of people care. its not getting too technical, its just the right way to say it....

I have a sil40 coupe... wait... wut?

just no.......

[Veriest1]

just no.......

But... but... it's a 240sx with a Silvia conversion! It can't be a real Silvia! OMG! That'd be

[J14cm7]

LOL. wow now i see why you have so many posts. You keep arguing with ppl even though you know your wrong. I guess ill try this again.

Okay, get mad if you want. It doesn't change that not all of them are named for the displacement. I honestly don't see why "the original" or a coupe has anything to do with what you are trying to prove here.

Because thats WHY the car has its name. The 200sx is called the 200sx because it has a 2.0L engine. Now we all understand it had variations but the main engine it first came out with was the 2.0L. You were wrong by stating it first had a 1.8L then later had a 2.0L. newb

Well, if that were true, then why did they change it all up in the late 70s and early 80s? You said every car they make follows that name equals displacement thing. Its not true anymore since the s110. SO deal with it.

The s110 is not called the s110 so nice try. It was called the 200sx. And the year it debut in the states it had a...2.0L engine. WOW thats funny how that works. The rotary was an epic fail and didnt last long never came to the states.

The fact is all the cars I mentioned before i named after their displacements. Anyone can see that. I hate to make ppl with over 20K posts look bad but dude come on give it up.

And ill back off the sil40 thing you can call your car anythig you want i just personally think you should just call it a sil80 because it resembles and real sil80. Nice car previous poster i like the way that looks. whether it be a sil00, sil40, sil80 haha.

[simmode1]

One is entirely JDM (sil80), the other is one half JDM, one half US market(sil40).

Best and most concise answer to this question, IMO.

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

my take goin on this is the designation sil80 is recognized by the original chassis being a 180sx with a silvia front end, sil40 is the original chassis being a 240sx with a silvia front end. usdm shouldnt be called sil80's because they are not originally 180sx platform and all that goes with being an oem 180.

[J14cm7]

I agree with the previous posters and Dattebayo on that. but what do you call a USDM coupe with a silvia front end on it? Is it still a sil40?

[simmode1]

I agree with the previous posters and Dattebayo on that. but what do you call a USDM coupe with a silvia front end on it? Is it still a sil40?

I call it a 240sx with an s13 Silvia conversion... Seems to fit nicely and makes sense.

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

yea just say it has a silvia conversion.

[J14cm7]

Really this topic is a little ridiculous. Just call your car whatever you want. They are mutants so they dont have a set name. The only reason a popular name for them is sileighty is because a company actually made something called a sileighty that is basically a 180sx/240sx with a silvia front end on it.

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

yea i was lookin for a name designation from nissan, but the whole history is a bit sketchy so i guess u can call it w.e u want but the term sil-eighty came from 180sx and we all know it originate over there. A tru sil-eighty would have to be rhd, sr powered, and a shat load of body parts. but i guess if u want to call your 240sx a sil-eight cause it has a silvia front but no sr20 its ok

[J14cm7]

yea i have no idea either all i know is that nissan wasnt the one who put out the actual sileighty. it was a private company.

[kurama240sx]

If someone posted it already fine.

Years ago i remember reading this article say the sil80 was created because people that had crashed their 180sx found it cheaper to just buy the silva front.

In the final years of the 180sx production, either 94 to 96 Nissan actually sold Sileighty's

It was just a trend. someone posted that page one j14cm7 i think.

[Dattebayo]

SO what I want to know is: If the 200SX was named after it's displacement, why didn't they call it the 2000 SX?

Or more precisely, the 1952 SX?

[ZootedS13]

But... but... it's a 240sx with a Silvia conversion! It can't be a real Silvia! OMG! That'd be

you can call it whatever you want lol. its yours, and you like cowboy bebop so

[J14cm7]

SO what I want to know is: If the 200SX was named after it's displacement, why didn't they call it the 2000 SX?

Or more precisely, the 1952 SX?

WTF are you talking about. Judging by your last post we can both agree you were wrong on numerous things and now your reaching. The fact is that the majority of nissans cars are named after their displacements. Specifically all the cars we have been talking about. It was a good debate and its nice to see a newb came out on the winning side.

[Dattebayo]

No, there are only two cars that I am aware of that were named after the displacement. The NX2000/1600 and the CSP311 roadster 2000/1600.

The rest have enough variants that you cannot say for sure what you are trying to prove. SO quit guessing.

[J14cm7]

This thread is a perfect example of how sometimes even self proclaimed "OG members" dont have the answers and sometimes its better to just do the research yourself. I think any idiot can look at this thread and see that nissan names the numbered cars after the original engine that came in the car. Sure there are LATER variants but the engine that came in the car when it first debut is what gives the car its name.

[badbob2121]

ALRIGHT!!!! I GET IT!!!! STOP argueing about nothing... my question has been answered!!! thanks gents but this thread is DEAD ...........

[Dattebayo]

This thread is a perfect example of how sometimes even self proclaimed "OG members" dont have the answers and sometimes its better to just do the research yourself. I think any idiot can look at this thread and see that nissan names the numbered cars after the original engine that came in the car. Sure there are LATER variants but the engine that came in the car when it first debut is what gives the car its name.

There is no need to start calling people names, little man. You can't hang with a discussion, so you lash out and act foolish.

[ZOMG.SR20]

[DizzyKitty]

i= raged