Should We Outlaw Hunting?

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I think that we should, unless you're hunting for a food source, not just out to kill animals. Sport hunting is barbaric at best and needs to be stopped.

In fact, once we outlaw random sport hunting, we might as well restrict who can purchase a rifle, since you don't need a rifle for home defense. I'll make a stipulation for a shotgun. This will cut back on the amount of guns in the public's hands and the needless killing of our Nations wild life.

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i agree with that. many people rely on hunting for food. such as seal and deer. if the hunting sport does continue to grow, many of the species will be harder to get.

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I suspect that Brian has been looking at Peta's website lately or something..

Where did this all come from Brian? It just came out of no where!

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No because if we do that then people will start keeping the meat and eating it. That would be bad for the beef industry, and we might have to bail them out. Then the sport hunters will make a supreme court case about how their rights to kill an animal for sport have been taken away, and cry that it's unconstitutional.

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I disagree with big game hunting, but as a means of population control it is somewhat essential. In NJ, there have been serious overpopulations of deer and bear in certian instances, and this can pose a threat to people around us.

I completely agree though that people have no reason to just go out and shoot and elephant or something just for s***s and giggles.

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^^^Overpopulation of deer and bear can dangerous to people, but who's land was it in the first place. If anything we're overpopulated.

And shows on TV where they go out and hunt, the hunter will say, "Oh what a absolutley gorgeous buck, it will look good on my wall" WTF If it's such a nice specimen, why shoot it with a gun, shoot it with a freakin camera.

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Venison is good unless the meat is from being hit by a car.

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audtatious wrote:Venison is good unless the meat is from being hit by a car.
You don't like tenderized Vension steaks?
Cold_Zero wrote:I suspect that Brian has been looking at Peta's website lately or something..

Where did this all come from Brian? It just came out of no where!
I'd rather hunt people. Animals have no defense, shooting them with a rifle at 100 yards means you're a gigantic vajayjay IMO. Take that deer out with a spear or hunting knife, then you're a hunter. Everyone else is a puss in my book.

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WDRacing wrote:I think that we should, unless you're hunting for a food source, not just out to kill animals. Sport hunting is barbaric at best and needs to be stopped.

In fact, once we outlaw random sport hunting, we might as well restrict who can purchase a rifle, since you don't need a rifle for home defense. I'll make a stipulation for a shotgun. This will cut back on the amount of guns in the public's hands and the needless killing of our Nations wild life.

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Thats what hunting usually is, just for food but if you are just looking for a trophy elk or deer then thats ok too just as long you donate or eat the meat that you get from it, the sport of hunting is not just about killing animals...d****** please realize this

Also hunting is good for population control too...

And who in the hell do you know that uses a rifle for home defense anyways!? I always thought it was just shotguns or pistols.
audtatious wrote:Venison is good unless the meat is from being hit by a car.
Yes, venison is very good

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hachiroku781 wrote:i agree with that. many people rely on hunting for food. such as seal and deer. if the hunting sport does continue to grow, many of the species will be harder to get.
I hope you didn't take Brian seriously.

My Grandpa made a rule with his sons that if you kill it you eat it. . . they killed a crow and he made them eat it. Needless to say I don't think you should kill unless you are going to eat (mind you I'm talking about animals) what you kill.

Why would you want to just kill animals in mass and leave them there? That's good meat!

BTW Brian, That's exactly what's happening and we don't even notice it. Just take one kernel at a time and pretty soon you're right down to the cob. . . gosh. . . am I getting carried away?

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dusred wrote:
Why would you want to just kill animals in mass and leave them there? That's good meat!
Thats called poaching, and its frowned upon

And if you get caught, you'll have an outstanding amount of fines to pay (and some other stuff too)

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My uncle is a "hunter". He doesn't own a handgun, just a bunch of various hunting rifles. He has a 308 he keeps out of the cabinet for intruders...

You can't say hunting is for food anymore bro. I'll back people shooting a deer for food. But we have hunting tv channels...

I say we allow people to hunt hunters.

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WDRacing wrote:My uncle is a "hunter". He doesn't own a handgun, just a bunch of various hunting rifles. He has a 308 he keeps out of the cabinet for intruders...

You can't say hunting is for food anymore bro. I'll back people shooting a deer for food. But we have hunting tv channels...

I say we allow people to hunt hunters.
oh ok

Yeah those hunting tv channels are complete bs, its not even hunting and not only that but those hunters (im guessing) are going strictly for the deer just to mount the head, but here's the thing, once it goes to a taxidermist if im not mistaken, if you dont want the meat then it will be donated to a food bank of something...and if that doesn't happen then those channels have done an excellent job of advertising poaching

people hunting hunters huh?...sorry man but i think thats illegal

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I love to hunt, but what we kill we eat thats why we go hunting.

for home defense i have a sks that i use with other guns for protection. pretty much everyone i know has a gun for defence.

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S13_love wrote:people hunting hunters huh?...sorry man but i think thats illegal
Yeah, I was just throwing that out there to stir the pot.
LeroyBrown wrote:I love to hunt, but what we kill we eat thats why we go hunting.

for home defense i have a sks that i use with other guns for protection. pretty much everyone i know has a gun for defence.
I have no problem with you hunting and eating deer or boar or whatever. But sport hunting to just to go kill animals is BS. The whole big game hunting...well those people should be killed IMO.

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sport hunting is stuped. like some people that will pay thousands of dollars to just go kill an animal in africa.or here in america theyll go and hunt a moose just for the head. complete bull s h i t

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WDRacing wrote:Animals have no defense, shooting them with a rifle at 100 yards means you're a gigantic vajayjay IMO.
One word. Nyati

Watch a Cape Buffalo charge a person armed with a 600 Nitro Express.

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The dude armed with the 600 Nitro sounds like a typical sport hunter...I'd watch a video of him getting trampled. I wouldn't even render aid if the animal left him alive...I might take his gun though

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My neighbor's buddy back in the states hunts deer, with a bowie knife. The guy nasties himself up to mask his scent, positions himself on a known deer run and waits. He usually gets one every other season. Hard core man.

I don't think hunting should be outlawed, closely regulated for sure. I think going out with a huge rifle with a scope and all that is gay though. Any chump with that kind of weapon can get something, pistol or bow if you want it to be a "sport" you poser.

I have gone out with freinds, they don't like how I hunt. I sight in on the animal, pause and say "you get another day guy" and bring the weapon down. I don't need to kill it to enjoy the day. That caused one guy with us to speculate I am a bad shot. A nice 600 yard plink on a rifle I have never shot before put that **** to rest.

Now if they legalize hunting hippies I am all in.

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In short, absolutely not!

I don't have a lot of time to say why, but hunting is a lot more than just going out and killing an animal. If you talk to people who actually do hunt, its not like they go out in the woods and open fire on everything that they see. Most hunters go out and enjoy the serene wilderness and may not even shoot at what they see.

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WDRacing wrote:I have no problem with you hunting and eating deer or boar or whatever. But sport hunting to just to go kill animals is BS. The whole big game hunting...well those people should be killed IMO.
I was reading a fvking awesome story that came from Nat Geo about just this thing. A group of bad asses who lived on a wild life reserve for Rinos who hunted poachers. I agree with you on big game, that is some ***** sht. Way to many humans, way to few 'big game'.

Should be like idk.. A pedoph:le filled jungle or something if you really just want to kill something..

As far as banning hunting all together? GTFO DUDE! You cant be serious, hunting is as old as life itself. There are orgs all over the US that accept bagged dear, butcher them, and feed them to the poor. Deer population is out of control here. I hate the people who just shoot a deer and leave it, but thats a different story. Id still rather see a dear dead in the woods with a gunshot wound than a deer on the side of the road.

Personally im all about bow hunting. I wouldnt have the patience to hunt with anything more rudimentary than that. Although i have heard of people who have hunted deers with knives, and i must say thats one of the most BA things ever. At least theres some sport in that, Vs. sitting in a tree stand for days on end until a buck wanders past your lame a$$.

Still though, even riflemen hunters serve a purpose. Can you even imagine the response to legislation trying to ban hunting?
themadscientist wrote:Now if they legalize hunting hippies I am all in.
Rotf sht someone needs to change my sig.

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Animals die for my pleasure. I do my best to make it humane.

Let's outlaw fishing, next! Hooks often get into a fish's eye, and then you pull up on that, remove them from their oxygen source, then throw them in a cooler until they suffocate.

Jesus, that's cruel.

Anyone who talks **** about stand-hunting hasn't done it enough. Long shots take skill, and all in all that waiting you can really find yourself (it helped me decide to say male).

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charlieo wrote:(it helped me decide to say male).
Are you sure?

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I'm not for outlawing hunting, but people who bait and then kill an animal with a gun are lame, IMO. Yay, you put out some donuts and blew a bear away from behind... you are such a man.

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Outlaw hunting and we might as well throw each and every one of our guns into a Jeremy Clarkson's V8 powered blender.

Hunting has a very specific science behind it. Not just anyone can go out and shoot as many deer as you can possibly find. You need a tag. These tags are issued by your states game and fish department. They limit tags on how populous a specific species is. If there is a ton of deer, they give out lots of tags. If there aren't as many deer, they don't give out vary many tags.

The people that end up ****ing this up are pochers. (sp?) But why should we take away hunting because of one group of idiots? It's like taking away cars since some people drive drunk and end up killing someone.

Let the animals roam free without hunters. See what happens. They will multiply like crazy. It's used as population control.

Also, hunting brings in MASSIVE amounts of money. We pay so much in tax it's not even funny.

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ADDirishboy wrote:Outlaw hunting and we might as well throw each and every one of our guns into a Jeremy Clarkson's V8 powered blender.

Hunting has a very specific science behind it. Not just anyone can go out and shoot as many deer as you can possibly find. You need a tag. These tags are issued by your states game and fish department. They limit tags on how populous a specific species is. If there is a ton of deer, they give out lots of tags. If there aren't as many deer, they don't give out vary many tags.

The people that end up ****ing this up are pochers. (sp?) But why should we take away hunting because of one group of idiots? It's like taking away cars since some people drive drunk and end up killing someone.

Let the animals roam free without hunters. See what happens. They will multiply like crazy. It's used as population control.

Also, hunting brings in MASSIVE amounts of money. We pay so much in tax it's not even funny.
Cost me $49.50 for the "fun pack" (salt/fresh fish, hunting) in Florida. That's up from $37 last year in FL.

At least the bird permit is free...

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what about Milf Hunting?

haha jkjk

yeah, I agree with Brian. Dude, we're in 2009 already. Sport hunting is barbaric... we have video games that can replace that.

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charlieo wrote:
Cost me $49.50 for the "fun pack" (salt/fresh fish, hunting) in Florida. That's up from $37 last year in FL.

At least the bird permit is free...
"Its ok to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings"

But shooting bambi and the other 4 legged mammals should incure a license in the $1200 anual range IMO. Wanna hunt, pay up.

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I think that we absolutely should NOT outlaw hunting.

From the biological perspective, we have many wildlife populations that are spiraling out of control. Whitetail deer in my region are a prime example of this, as are "wild" pigs in Sonoma CA and turkeys in other regions. Hunting is the cheapest, easiest, most logical solution to these issues.

Furthermore, hunting is enjoyable. I have actually never BEEN hunting but I have recently decided I want to give it a shot (bad pun). I do it with the intent of eating the animals I kill. I feel that in the age of "Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations", I would rather have personally overseen the death of the animal on my plate, on my own terms, than have purchased it in disconnected fashion from some corporation that treated it as a machine.

Hunting puts us in touch with nature and with our food, and I think it'd be an awful shame to get rid of it.

That said, obviously, no one should be allowed to hunt anything that isn't abundant.

I think that the vast majority of hunted animals get eaten, if not by the hunters than by friends, family, et cetera.


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WDRacing wrote:"Its ok to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings"

But shooting bambi and the other 4 legged mammals should incure a license in the $1200 anual range IMO. Wanna hunt, pay up.
Umm, how about no and that doesn't make any sense. You do realize that when you apply for hunting licenses you get tags, in which you pay for those separately, so at $1200/tag, hunting becomes only an elite person's activity. You do that and you destroy the rural economies. You do that and whitetails everywhere will become over populated. Strict rules are established for hunting, at least here in MI, you can't just go out and shoot at anything you see. This year, the MI DNR is trying to age the buck heard, so you can only shoot certain bucks. Some areas sell out within 15 minutes of when they go on sale, some areas have a lottery system. Its not like what you think it is.

Plus, going along with your original argument, how many crimes are committed with a rifle anyway? Not to many as most gun crimes occur with a hand gun.



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