Should I Turbo???? Poll

[DReed86]

Whats up guys got a question for you?

I have a sick offer for an Artisan turbo for a Manny car, mine however is CVT so I would need to make a few mods to make it work but what do you think???? Should I do it?

I probably wont install for a while but I just want to get it to get it.... you know.

What are your thoughts

[DJ_B_Easy]

Ehhhhhhh....I dont know man. If you have the cash to do it like that '"get it just to get it" I dont see why not. Id just be aware of what you are getting yourself into.

Exactly what kind of modification to this kit are we talking here? The kind that would be cheaper to just trade your auto for a manual?

[DReed86]

Exactly what kind of modification to this kit are we talking here? The kind that would be cheaper to just trade your auto for a manual?

I see your point but I cant bring myself to trade in the coupe, its my baby plus Ill keep the parts and 10 years down the road I may do a manny swap.

I talked to D.... he said he would he would look at my parts list and tell me what else I need so I know how much extra I would need to buy.

Im just thinking about how fast I think my car is now and its only about 230-240whp add another 100whp and thats almost a 50% increase which would be nasty!!!!!

[Ranga14]

I'm curious about this sick deal. Although the "Sick deal" might be moot if there's a lot of customization involved but that's mainly to do with the piping and what not so unsure. And yeah, one thing I've noticed since I've had mine done is that it's really hard to get traction anywhere from 0-30mph due to the massive power increase. Racingline REALLY needs to come out with their traction rods in a hurry to see if that helps any.

And yeah, only do this if you can handle keeping your psi low. It's difficult.

The kind that would be cheaper to just trade your auto for a manual?

Easier said than done, you're left with a few issues doing this;
1) Credit Approval
2) New "longer" car payment, ugh
3) The annoying process of swapping mods or replacing them which = $$$$$

I've done the calculations on this and believe me, the savings aren't there.

[CoupeVQ35CVT]

No.

Buy a 370z.

Then worry about overheating headers. So much better than blowing CVTs.

[Ranga14]

No.

Buy a 370z.

Then worry about overheating headers. So much better than blowing CVTs.

Don't you mean melting O2 sensors? :P

[DReed86]

No.

Buy a 370z.

Then worry about overheating headers. So much better than blowing CVTs.

Dont like the 370z its not in my taste. Plus I want a sedan next. IS-f!!!! Im kind of worried about the CVT blowing but if I do blow then its a real reason to get Manny

[Viper5000]

save ya mOneY David if you had a stick already i would say go for it....

[AlexM.]

1) Credit Approval
2) New "longer" car payment, ugh

I've done the calculations on this and believe me, the savings aren't there.

Are you just referring to purchasing it on credit? I don't see where the approval comes in but I get what you mean by having to pay off what you've charged on your credit card as payments.

[Ranga14]

Well, odds are, most of us are still making car payments which means we still owe money on our car. So we'd either have to a) pay off our car (with saved money) then make the purchase of the new car via a trade+loan or b) use the same funds to do the MT swap while still owing money to current loan. I know the figures will be different for everyone and what they owe but at least for me, the numbers came out to having to pay more money in the long run due to interest on said new car and well, just the higher price due to it being a new car from a dealer. However, I never explored the option of buying a 6MT coupe from a private owner but yeah, good luck with that!

[devilmagic]

stick = go turbo .. cvt = no good lol

[IBCoupe]

Dont like the 370z its not in my taste. Plus I want a sedan next. IS-f!!!! Im kind of worried about the CVT blowing but if I do blow then its a real reason to get Manny

I think I like that reasoning. You may be lucky, and you may be able to keep the boost down enough that you don't blow the transmission (Heh. I didn't think they did that kind of thing in VA), but in the event that you do and you don't mind losing your car for a while again, you could do a swap.

As for credit payments, remember that it's not until about 2/3 of the way into your loan that you actually start paying down principal in any noticable amount (unless you've been sending in extra money, marked to be applied to your principal). Depending on your mileage (like mine), it may be easy to get underwater at first on your loan, which may make switching cars even more painful. So, while I voted "Yes," I wonder where you'd be if you just sent that check for the artisan kit into your bank (along with a separate check for the loan payment) marked as "Apply to Principal."

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[DReed86]

Depending on your mileage (like mine), it may be easy to get underwater at first on your loan, which may make switching cars even more painful. So, while I voted "Yes," I wonder where you'd be if you just sent that check for the artisan kit into your bank (along with a separate check for the loan payment) marked as "Apply to Principal."

I have about 12k left on my car, and over the next 7 months I will be obtaining my realestate license and selling roughly $900k in homes in my first 3 months (this has already been confirmed) So I will most-likely have enough to pay off my coupe by mid summer........
Obviously this is not 100% but Im 95% sure this will take place.
And honestly this is money in savings that I would not normally take out, but because Im getting a "sick deal" I would be willing to give it up. I would not put it on my loan, just cuase you never know whats going to happen.

[dldjros69]

Ha u sound like Ricky C. Damn u a gangsta

[DReed86]

Ha u sound like Ricky C. Damn u a gangsta

Whoa whoa whoa Ricky C is on whole nother level..
Im just a baby gangsta....

And non of this has happened yet.... Im just very confident it will

And I have no intention of dropping the kind of Cake you dropped on your turbo.... lol Cause that was gangsta!!!!!!!!

[dldjros69]

Baby gangsta lol! Like blake has said from day 1 its not if u blow your cvt its when! Do a swap and get a beefy a** transmission! Go from there. When im rockin full power/9psi my clutch feels like nothin!

[DReed86]

Did blake blow his transmission???

[DJ_B_Easy]

"Blowing trannys"...

[DReed86]

"Blowing trannys"...

^^

[dldjros69]

Did blake blow his transmission???

They all did! Blake, Ricky

[DReed86]

They all did! Blake, Ricky

Yeah I used the search button and found they had... but they were the ones that just started with turbos we have made some advancements in the cvt turbo game right...
The guy who bought from Blake he has busted yet has he, plus someone(named Warner) had an artisan turbo too has he busted.

Ok Super noob question.... I know nothing about turbo... but "Is there a way that I could hook up laptop on my car and adjust the PSI's on the fly???"

So if I know im driving in gridlock traffic I could drop it to 1PSI and if I pull up next to a vette I could change it to 5PSI with in just a couple moments... .Cause that would be f@cHing awesome!!! But again I dont know anything about cars but I kind of remember Paul waker doing something like this in the first fast and furious.....

[Ranga14]

Uh, first, you're not "constantly" running at 5psi. Your throttle controls the PSI and the throttle is controlled by your foot which means as long as you aren't gunning it and rip roaring through town then you can potentially never be boosting. Most of the time, I'm not, the meter is always in the negative range or sometimes when accelerating moderately, I never go over 1-2psi. So no need to think that much into it. So with all that said, one could say that if you never got on your car, you'd never be boosting and throwing massive torque at your transmission which means it would be fine. Then the only issue is heat and wow, that's something that hasn't been discussed, make sure you get a cooler!!!! And temp gauge, the $15 autozone ones work fine, FYI.

As for adjusting your PSI...
http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=3208

That's what TJ had sold to me with his turbo, pretty easy to control your boost and other settings with it.

Edit: I guess I should do a video showing my setup.

[DReed86]

Uh, first, you're not "constantly" running at 5psi. Your throttle controls the PSI and the throttle is controlled by your foot which means as long as you aren't gunning it and rip roaring through town then you can potentially never be boosting. Most of the time, I'm not, the meter is always in the negative range or sometimes when accelerating moderately, I never go over 1-2psi.

Hold up so your saying PSI's are controled by how hard my foot is on the pedal????? So I could slam my pedal to the floor and could be pushing 9PSI's????? I dont like the sound of that at all... Then there like no way for me to not blow my turbo.... this is not sounding like a good idea cause I drive my car pretty hard...... Not like Phenom though... lol

SO there is no way to control the PSI's through a computer????? Cause that sounds kind of $h!tty, I though you could tune your car at a number like 5psi or 12 psi...

So that being said couldnt you hypothetically blow every car if you ran a full capacity for long enough???

How long does it take to get to 5PSI's is it an instant thing, 3-4 second or is it a speed like 80 or 120???

So it sounds like that machine is kind of doing what Im talking about??? Right

[CoupeVQ35CVT]

You can use the boost controller to set the max boost PSI your turbo will make. That means if you step on it hard, it will "top out" at a certain setting. Ranga has his set for about 5 PSI. It goes up a few tenths as I've seen, but will keep around there when he's on the pedal. But the rest of the time, driving around and etc, it will stay in the negative or +1-2 psi for moments.

I can tell you, you need to research A LOT MORE, from what you seem to know so far. I am no expert but just trying to add to your knowledge.

To answer your main question, you do use a computer (the boost controller for example) to set the max PSI.

The boost can take a few moments, usually a matter of a second or 2, to build up. But it depends on how loaded up the engine is, and also depends on how quickly the turbo spools up. What you hear often is "turbo lag" which basically means is, from say a dead stop, you hit the gas. You start accelerating, but the turbo takes another 1-2 seconds to really spool up and boost up the intake. That suddenly surges the engine with all that air and therefore you feel that kick a couple seconds later, or "turbo lag," as the engine starts to run with the boost. The instant you start to let off the throttle, the boost may fall back a little, or a lot. It's a bit more complicated than that, but those are the basics I can think of.

And yes for the CVT, as I've seen Ranga's coupe drive around, you will see the cvt oil temp hover around 180-190*F on a warm day, horsing around if you have a good cooling setup. I believe stock, someone mentioned on here, that the oil can reach up to 200-220's.

[Ranga14]

lol, no no... As CoupeVQ35CVT said, the boost controller sets the Target PSI and Max PSI so you'll never go over it and yeah, the psi goes up very quickly when hitting the throttle. So as I said, if you don't rag on your car constantly then you won't be boosting high that much. And on a side note, I am curious about what happened to the SER badge dude that got the turbo from Blake, he simply vanished after that one video he made. He either doesn't care to come on this site anymore or he blew his transmission and is in hiding, lol.

[jewelz505]

dude if u can afford turbo u can afford the downtime & upkeep..
i say DOOOOOO IIIIIIIT!!!!

[DReed86]

Im trying to track down the artisan turbo guy to see if he was man. or CVT. I sent blake a message today so hopefully I can get some good info from him.... But honestly I think with TJ, Ranga, Blake, and Ricky C paving the CVT Turbo road I think I can make it withought blowing my CVT. With the EVC, and cooling set up I think we can have a sucessful CVT turbo....

And I am very aware that I need to do more research on it... hence this thread.

[obstacle]

trade in your A/C when the new 2012 remodels hit the market...get it in manual and then BOOOST

[DReed86]

trade in your A/C when the new 2012 remodels hit the market...get it in manual and then BOOOST

Ok everyone I will not be trading my AC in at all...ever.. Im buying a IS-F lexus in 2 years, so I wont be trading in my coupe for anything Ive done to much work to it... I will consider a Manny swap depending on how others go... (Cough Cough) person in TX... lol