Should i engine swap my 300zx 2+2 For an LS1?

[DadZun]

There is only one V8 that belongs in the Z. The VH.

You said it! Please answer my VH question if you can point me somewhere.

In the meantime, check this very clean LS1 conversionhttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/698415/2

[75_280Z]

Is this the VH motor you are referring to? It was the one I found on Wikipedia after a Google search.

VH41DEThe VH41DE is a 4.1 liter V8 that was based on the VH45DE. The bore of 93 mm remained but the stroke was shortened to 76 mm. Power output for the new engine was 266 hp at 5600 rpm and 278 lb-ft at 4000 rpm. The shorter stroke and certain other changes resulted in a more compact engine which allowed the VH41DE to be used in platforms that could not accept the VH45DE engine.

The 4.1 L VH41DE was used in the following vehicles:

1997-2001 Infiniti Q45, 267 hp, 278 lb-ft

About $1,000 on car-part.com w/ 20K miles

LM7The Vortec 5300, or LM7/LM4/L59/L33, is a V8 truck engine. It is a stroked (by 9 mm) version of the Vortec 4800 and replaced the 5700 L31. L59 denoted a flexible fuel version, while the LM7 was the standard version of the engine.

Power output is 285-295 hp (213-220 kW) and torque is 325-335 ft·lbf (441-447 N·m). Displacement is 5.3 L (5328 cc) from 96.01 mm bore and 92.00 mm stroke. Vortec 5300s are built in St. Catharines, Ontario, Romulus, Michigan, and Silao, Mexico.

The LM7 Vortec 5300 was introduced in 1999, and can be considered the "garden variety" version of the Generation III 5.3 liter V8's.

About $600 on car-part.com w/ 30K miles

L33The L33 was an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Horsepower increased by 15, to 310, over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks.

About $1,000 on car-part.com w/ 30K miles

These are both Chevy/GMC truck motors, not really high performance applications.

Figuring the accessories are about the same in cost, I can either spend my money for a motor that I will have to adapt in with 4.1 liters and 267/278 OR a motor I will have to adapt in with 5.3 liters and 310/335. Adding in a $200 Z06 cam and a set of $50 valve springs changes this to around 350/350. I could not find prices or parts online quickly to upgrade the VH41DE, although I'm sure they exist.

Since I'm a frugal sort, when I go to swap the motor out of the Z32 300ZX I'm planning on buying, I'll stick with another Gen 3 Chevy OR hit y'all up for the funds for the VH41DE & upgrades . In the meantime, we'll have to agree to disagree , and you can do with your car what you wish & I'll do the same.

[75_280Z]

I think Chevy should stay in Chevy and leave the real performance to Nissan so get a Nissan...otherwise if you change whats inside it's a TRAITOR!

Tomorrow I will fill up the 280Z one last time, then put it against the wall of the garage, offer it a cigarette, cover the headlamps, and shoot it.

[Death By Thrash Metal]

Chevy engines belong in Chevy's.

Swapping one into a 300zx would be wrong.

/ End of discussion.

100%right.If you are really into whacky swaps do an rb26dett. That would be beyond cool. or if money isnt an object rb30... need i say more?But seeing as you cant even realize that ls1+nissan is flat out like mating with your sister, i dont think you are ready for even a turbo on your current engine. The right swap for your car is the tt swap. Info is available at the top of the thread list, its stickied.

[DadZun]

Tomorrow I will fill up the 280Z one last time, then put it against the wall of the garage, offer it a cigarette, cover the headlamps, and shoot it.

My good mate Russell Crowe is gonna sneak in to the dungeon tonight and liberate her. Hope the last meal was race fuel, and the last ciggy was indica.

[T45]

Comparing the 5.3 chevy to a VH45 isn't exactly a fair game since the VH was designed in the late 80's. Compare a 90 VH to a GM engine and you'll see why the VH tops the GM.

I paid 456.00 for my Q45 off ebay and got everything for my swap. The VH45 is a bit underrated but from the factory puts out 279/292. I don't like picking engines just because of the numbers. With a nico ecu the Vh will run 7400 rpm and has over 180 ft lb of rear wheel torque at 800 rpm. That's more than your current engine puts out all together.

To each his own and I am all about doing things my way. If I had a GM sitting in my garage you would bet your *** I would be dropping it in the Z. I had a choice and chose the VH just because it is unique, it was massively overbuilt for indy, and the sound!

[Mossive]

thats a really good price...the whole deal is cheaper than my exhaust!

[BIG Tony]

Chevy engines belong in Chevy's.

Swapping one into a 300zx would be wrong.

/ End of discussion.

why do they put chevy motor in fords???

[75_280Z]

Why do they put Chevy motors in Fords???

That's easy. To make them better.

[MiiLaNo]

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html

he got it done, but he had to do tons of customizations, and it is running as a competitor for the ultimate street car of the year.... check it out. I have the Mag it has a lot more detail to it.

[migsk8]

ok ok ok so swapping a chevy motor into a nissan is wrong?

who says its wrong?

so your pretty much you're admitting that you build cars for looks and have them all pretty with mattching logos.

bahaha

[GAZ32]

I think every car company has built their cars with a major thought on looks. If my Z looked like a Camry wagon, (no offense Papa) I probably wouldn't own it. If something looks good, you'll sell more. Simple.

About matching logos, why would a '66 Chevelle SS that has a 396 sell better than the same car with a VH Nissan? Simple.

[75_280Z]

I think every car company has built their cars with a major thought on looks. If my Z looked like a Camry wagon, (no offense Papa) I probably wouldn't own it. If something looks good, you'll sell more. Simple.

About matching logos, why would a '66 Chevelle SS that has a 396 sell better than the same car with a VH Nissan? Simple.

No doubt. With new car design & sales it is usually form over function- they apparently never have to work on them. This explains why the LTx motor in my 4th gen Trans Am is buried under the cowl, and when I put the same motor in my 20 years older 280Z, I have easy access to just about everything.

In the interest of non-discrimination, if I had a Camry wagon (sleeper wagons are cool BTW) or a Chevelle, I 'd put a Gen 3 V8 into them.

[bruno77]

if you want to save a lot of 300x from going to the scrap yard ls1 is the best solution , yes a tt engine from eBay might seem the correct route but you got to ask yourself why the car went to s*** in the first place. you might go through another engine before you finally realize ls1 swap was the better option in the first place. i bought 2 nissan 300x for less than 1200 so it leaves me a lot of room to swap ls1 engines in both , it would be nice to put a twin turbo engine but i know in the long run it is going to need work again , now ls1 provides raw power and they are bullet proof engines , i know from owning a couple of trans ams camaros and corvettes , i always loved the 300zx and the ls1 motor , so this is a perfect combination for me , in the end is each to his own opinion.

[rgregoryb]

Hell, it's your car put a John Deere 3 cylinder if you want to. If my Z32 engine goes tits up I have been thinking about a Ford Eco boost V6

[nissanfreak12]

Holey old thread revival batman!!!!

[rgregoryb]

And I was drinking pretty good too!