shim vlsd difficulties!!

[PyR0NiAk]

They get pulled over because the chirping of tires can be ticketed as reckless driving. It happens in my hometown too... The number of cops to drivers is higher on base than in Ohio, so I naturally see it more on base.

[motoman399]

ya i understand lame authority can be, but the chirping tires from a welded is not illegal. dropping the clutch and squealing the tires is illegal. just think when an inexperienced driver accidentally drops the clutch and chirps the tires, illegal? nope...

[zeause]

Small town will rack your a** for chirping tires. i know because ive gotten tickets for it. And a welded rear end with 15 or 16 inch rims that arent too wide might not be too bad... BUT with wide 17s its pretty s***. Im not guna give up on it until i get some solid toe rods though. And swapping the dif out on a lift with air tools still takes at least an hour of being under a car. Idk bout you but i hate working under cars. especially holding something heavy.

[motoman399]

i dont want to make this into a welded diff versus vlsd thread. we already have a thread on that. and feel free to post it there.

the-welded-differential-discussion-ques ... lit=welded

sorry op

[PyR0NiAk]

just think when an inexperienced driver accidentally drops the clutch and chirps the tires, illegal? nope...

Yep.. Got my first ticket that way... I was in Kentucky and received a ticket for an "improper start from a stopped position"

[motoman399]

i would take that s*** to the supreme court. i hate dumb a** cops.

[poshatch]

haha this changed course but since nobodys helpin ill join =D

in my area its not bad from churping but i hear in neighboring areas they give you tickets up the a** for s*** like stance, tire wear, being too low, never heard of that for churping but i can see how a cop would take advantage of that

that churping ticket is bogas!

[PyR0NiAk]

If you're driving in a way that you're losing traction, it's not a completely controlled environment. Wouldn't you agree? I've never heard of any stateside places giving you s*** for being too low unless you're dragging.

P.S. The proper spelling is "bogus"

[motoman399]

i would say you are still in control while turning with a welded. i mean are you not in control? there is no way you are going to injure another person just because your tires are screeching around a corner or in a parking lot..

[poshatch]

If you're driving in a way that you're losing traction, it's not a completely controlled environment. Wouldn't you agree? I've never heard of any stateside places giving you s*** for being too low unless you're dragging.

lol driving in a way that is loosing traction is drifting isnt it....drifting is controled and losing traction. the police around here have NOTHING better to do than harass people for stupid little junk, for instance, i would get a ticket for no license plate light while giving me a ticket there would be people flying by at 65 in the rain...junk that that pisses me off

P.S. The proper spelling is "bogus"

knowledge is power!

[PyR0NiAk]

Drifting in public streets is considered reckless driving as well. Thanks for proving my point.

[motoman399]

Drifting in public streets is considered reckless driving as well. Thanks for proving my point.

and thats why you got the ticket. I would have not gotten the ticket because that isnt my attitude. you dont just give in and say "yes ocifer, you right"

[poshatch]

after looking into the matter a little better i think i may have found the problem!!!

"align the splines to the axels before tightening the phillips screws after putting in the shim"

FML im pretty sure that i missed this, nowhere found in the two write-ups i consulted for this project

also, i feel that there might be an issue with the lock rings that i removed via this suggestion:

"mine was the other way around .... it was the little ring .... you have to take that out ... if its stuck inside the vlsd ... " (hows it running btw LOVERboy??? im afraid of it leaking or something bad since the half shafts wouldnt be "locked" in place)

maybe problems will arrise because of this but im gonna pull it back appart back down to the shim and try to align it perfect before re-assembling it and hopefully it will go back in easy and i can slap it in and check out how it will work

im hoping that the current vlsd lasts for the next two track days good enough to get some good practice in and then if it gives me problems ill be slapping in the welded until i can shim the other vlsd and run that until i can afford a real LSD

anybody know how long this modification lasts...adding the extra shim load is something that it wasnt intended, therefore, the parts are bound to wear at a much faster rate anybody DDing on a shimed vlsd?

[poshatch]

Drifting in public streets is considered reckless driving as well. Thanks for proving my point.

are you insinuating that i drift publicly and recklessly? i never made any claims about the WHO i was just simply stating that drifting is a action that requires loss of traciton and control.

[motoman399]

i think that PyR0NiAk was saying that the ticket is the same as drifting because the tires are loosing traction. which isnt the same at all.

PyR0NiAk you seem like a cool dude but we have some different opinions lol

[poshatch]

i think that PyR0NiAk was saying that the ticket is the same as drifting because the tires are loosing traction. which isnt the same at all.

PyR0NiAk you seem like a cool dude but we have some different opinions lol

oh i see how a cop could make the connection between the two things, what a shame it would be to lose my car for churping

[PyR0NiAk]

Drifting in public streets is considered reckless driving as well. Thanks for proving my point.

and thats why you got the ticket. I would have not gotten the ticket because that isnt my attitude. you dont just give in and say "yes ocifer, you right"

For what it's worth, I got the ticket thrown out of court... But I would like to hear what your attitude is... I've done enough stupid driving in my teenage years to learn the hard way of how to act and not to act when being pulled over. Everything from pulling off from a fleeing and eluding charge with a slap on the wrist to being tossed in the back of a cop car for what started out as a speeding ticket.

So tell me, how would you have handled it?

[PyR0NiAk]

i think that PyR0NiAk was saying that the ticket is the same as drifting because the tires are loosing traction. which isnt the same at all.

PyR0NiAk you seem like a cool dude but we have some different opinions lol

Incorrect. I was stating that any driving in such a manner that causes a loss of traction is considered reckless driving. Be it dumping the clutch, flooring the throttle around a turn, pulling the e-brake for any purpose other than stopping when your normal brakes have failed, or even having your differential setup so that your inside tire is forced to turn just as fast as the outside tire. It's all something that you have done to cause you to no longer have full traction.

[poshatch]

i think that PyR0NiAk was saying that the ticket is the same as drifting because the tires are loosing traction. which isnt the same at all.

PyR0NiAk you seem like a cool dude but we have some different opinions lol

Incorrect. I was stating that any driving in such a manner that causes a loss of traction is considered reckless driving. Be it dumping the clutch, flooring the throttle around a turn, pulling the e-brake for any purpose other than stopping when your normal brakes have failed, or even having your differential setup so that your inside tire is forced to turn just as fast as the outside tire. It's all something that you have done to cause you to no longer have full traction.

indeed...

but i dont want a 2 way for daily driving purposes, i want the ability for the inside wheel to turn slower than the outside wheel for daily puproses and not deal with all the horrors of dding a 2 way and also maintain some handling, but i want it to lock hard too when i need it to

the vlsd will eventaully stop locking, and i can feel the difference between taht and the welded where i pretty much stay floored the whole way in the vlsd where the weldie i can change my slip much easier

[PyR0NiAk]

Incorrect. I was stating that any driving in such a manner that causes a loss of traction is considered reckless driving. Be it dumping the clutch, flooring the throttle around a turn, pulling the e-brake for any purpose other than stopping when your normal brakes have failed, or even having your differential setup so that your inside tire is forced to turn just as fast as the outside tire. It's all something that you have done to cause you to no longer have full traction.

indeed...

but i dont want a 2 way for daily driving purposes, i want the ability for the inside wheel to turn slower than the outside wheel for daily puproses and not deal with all the horrors of dding a 2 way and also maintain some handling, but i want it to lock hard too when i need it to

the vlsd will eventaully stop locking, and i can feel the difference between taht and the welded where i pretty much stay floored the whole way in the vlsd where the weldie i can change my slip much easier

So you're agreeing with me then.. LOL The welded would be retarded for a daily, so the only way a welded would be a good idea is if you were going to swap it in on track days.

[poshatch]

yeah haha, which is possible but it seems a pain in the a** to do it before each time but it might come down to that =/

[PyR0NiAk]

How often are you actually expecting to track it? Maybe once or twice a month?

[poshatch]

How often are you actually expecting to track it? Maybe once or twice a month?

lol i track it every time i see an opening

current year schedule:

feb 6th attended
march 13 attended
march 14th attended
april - no events
may 22th attending
june 6th attending

im swapping in the welded today for the track and taking it out after the 6th event

[PyR0NiAk]

How often are you actually expecting to track it? Maybe once or twice a month?

current year schedule:

feb 6th attended
march 13 attended
march 14th attended
april - no events
may 22th attending
june 6th attending

im swapping in the welded today for the track and taking it out after the 6th event

2 weeks on a welded won't be too bad. Called the once-twice per month thing, though. Good luck at the track events.

[poshatch]

thank you very much, id keep the vlsd in but i dont wanna pay and go there and risk it starting to peg leg, its been 3 events and numerous nights and it still does fine but i dont wanna risk it!

hopefully what i discovered fixes the vlsd issue and it will work and i can run that all the time instead of switchin it out

[PyR0NiAk]

Maybe I missed it, but do inform me.. What did you discover?

[poshatch]

Maybe I missed it, but do inform me.. What did you discover?

i have to pull it all back apart back down to the shim again
then align the half shafts inside to align everything then put it all back together again, take the half shafts out then put it all back together

fml