Sell Your 240 And Get A Eclipse!!!

[89sxRCR]

Sieriously, hybrid z's OWN. If you want raw speed for the price i dont think you can beat the 240z v8 swap. Plus over here in cali the damn things dont have to meet ANY emition requirements because thier make is before a certain year. You can legally have no cat, a engine with any mods you want, and police cant do crap. Well, my friend did get a ticket for sound level once but... The only downside is i dont like 240z looks. i think the sx is a much prettier car, and chicks dig em. but 500 horses talk

[EZcheese15]

Um....you can't "legally have no cat" anywhere in the U.S., because it's a FEDERAL law that you must have one if there was one on there to begin with.

[InstantRice]

hey ez cheese do you know what our emission laws are here in ga or where to look em up?

[EZcheese15]

In GA, you car must pass a pipe sniffer test if the car is 3 to 7 years old. (Currently, 1996-1999 model years). Anything less than 3 years old does not need to have emissions done. Anything 7 to 25 years old must pass a rolling emissions test, where the emissions are measured through the tailpipe, on a dyno. Currently this applies to model years 1978-1995. Emissions test are only required for the Atlanta metro area. Outside of the Atlanta area, no emissions test are required.

Federal law requires that all cars that come with a cat must maintain a working cat (it's illegal to hollow out a cat). Also, federal law mandates that any engine swapped into a car must be of that model year or newer. In other words, you can put a 1996 240SX engine into a 1993 240SX, but you can't put a 1993 240SX engine into a 1996 240SX. Also, all engine swaps must be an engine that was produced and sold in that vehicle as a USDM car. (It is illegal to put a SR20DET into a 240SX).

Now ofcourse, these are the actual laws. I know people do engine swaps with JDM engines. I know people remove cats. And although I'm for emissions, I'm more for performance. So if you tell me you took out your cat because it was "dumb emissions equipment" then I will think you are dumb. But if you tell me you take out your cat and you "gained 20HP at the ground" then I will say "right on man."

[nametakennow]

Okay, hold up. You can put only a newer engine into a car. Am I reading this right? Dude, I already didn't like GA, but now... this is full of s**t! Course, we got 93 octane, so all is not bad. Who's gonna tell anyway? The engine's probably got fewer miles on it! Assuming its an S13eng in an S14, or any engine, since they quit selling 240s in 98'.

whoa, that was sporadic...

[Daunttless]

Um, its a FEDERAL LAW. As in, mandated by the Federal Government. You can't put an engine from a car that is older than the model year you are transplanting it into. Period.

SR20s and basically all other JDM swaps are illegal, why you ask? Well, let me answer it for you. : ) Because they pollute more than USDM engines...no, that can't be it. Oh, maybe its the fact that its a JDM, as in, Japanese Domestic Markets engine rather than a USDM engine, so it isn't approved by the DOT and EPA. You could have the cleanest engine in the world, and if it isn't DOT or EPA certified, it isn't street legal. : ) People just ignore that whole illegality thing, no matter what state you're in. The only way to get caught is if you have emissions testing though. : )

As far as the no cat thing, its because its pre 76, Cats weren't required then, so you don't need to meet any emissions standards because there were no standards.

[EZcheese15]

Okay, hold up. You can put only a newer engine into a car. Am I reading this right? Dude, I already didn't like GA, but now... this is full of s**t! Course, we got 93 octane, so all is not bad. Who's gonna tell anyway? The engine's probably got fewer miles on it! Assuming its an S13eng in an S14, or any engine, since they quit selling 240s in 98'.

whoa, that was sporadic...

Like Dauntless said, that is a federal law, not a state law. And just cuz I posted the laws, doesn't mean people follow them.

[ST240]

This couldnt be more ironic in this case.

Im torn between a 1G DSM and a 240sx. I've been looking into both and still have not made my decision.

I know for a fACT, the 240sx is a waaaaaaaaay more reliable car. But it is true you can go way faster for less money with a turbo DSM. Id just be worried about my DSM blowing up after every race

I'm still leaning towards 240sx buttttttt

Someone please convince me to buy a 240

-Andre

[EZcheese15]

This couldnt be more ironic in this case.

Im torn between a 1G DSM and a 240sx. I've been looking into both and still have not made my decision.

I know for a fACT, the 240sx is a waaaaaaaaay more reliable car. But it is true you can go way faster for less money with a turbo DSM. Id just be worried about my DSM blowing up after every race

I'm still leaning towards 240sx buttttttt

Someone please convince me to buy a 240

-Andre

The two biggest reasons I can give you to get a 240SX over a DSM is 1) RWD and 2)more unique

Honestly, that's about all I can think of. Although, I like DSM's too.

[midnight brother]

if you want to get more unique you can get a 91-94 hyundai excel, or elantra or pre 96 sonata and throw in either:

4g63t4g63/4t hybridevo 4/5/6 vr4 46g3t awdbasically any 4g variation.

[TrueSlide]

to be really unique, just turbo charge and spray a 3 cyclinder metro

[EZcheese15]

to be really unique, just turbo charge and spray a 3 cyclinder metro

With 36" super swompers

[platinum240sx]

with bout 7 gs (canadian) you can make an eclipse runs low 12s!platinumchainz

[EZcheese15]

with bout 7 gs (canadian) you can make an eclipse runs low 12s!platinumchainz

What's 7 G's in CD equal to in USD? Isn't it like $50? LOL j/k

[Daunttless]

Dude, 50 bucks?? Are you kidding me? 7gs in CD is like a cheese burger, hold the mayo. : )

[InstantRice]

if your hooked up at burger king 7gs cd is a jr whooper w/ cheese.

[89sxRCR]

Quote »As far as the no cat thing, its because its pre 76, Cats weren't required then, so you don't need to meet any emissions standards because there were no standards.[/quote]

Thanks for backing me on this daunt, ezcheese look up the laws before u lecture:)

[EZcheese15]

Thanks for backing me on this daunt, ezcheese look up the laws before u lecture:)

I apoligize. It wasn't that I didn't know the laws, it's that I missread "240Z" as "280Z". Therefore I figured the car was late 70's. A 240Z does not need a cat.

[Daunttless]

Plus, EzCheese also stated there weren't any governing laws for pre 78 in his other post, so I may be wrong, i thought it was 76, but it may be 78 as EzCheese stated. : ) Was just a minor misunderstanding. : ) Enjoy your day guys!

[Megaseth]

I think 76 is the last year a car/truck car legally have non-cat exhaust. i had a 76 ford F-150 and i had no cats. hehe, i had a twister race muffler on each side of that 390 i had in there. pretty much straight pipes. and you guys thought a N1 exhaust was loud.

[EZcheese15]

Plus, EzCheese also stated there weren't any governing laws for pre 78 in his other post, so I may be wrong, i thought it was 76, but it may be 78 as EzCheese stated. : ) Was just a minor misunderstanding. : ) Enjoy your day guys!

No, 78 is how far GA goes back on emissions testing. 76 is the last year for no cats. So in otherwords, a 1977 model MUST have a cat, but it is not tested under GA law

[Daunttless]

ah, excellent, I thought I might have actually been wrong, and you know how much I hate to admit that. : )

[89sxRCR]

it is a 76 :ylsuper

[Megaseth]

OH...MY...GOD... anyone got a tissue. that is ****in' awsome!!! mine was alittle more mild than that, but dayam, thats nice!!

[ennui]

Iono about those 350 in 240 swaps. A couple friends and I went and test drove one in Indiana and it was doggy as hell. Just from the feel I wouldn't have said anything better than a mid fifteen in the quarter. To this day I wonder what was wrong with that car . . . worst of all it's the only V8 240Z swap I've had the privledge of riding/driving.

[QUICKFLOW240]

1st gen's run 7psi on a 14B stock. 2nd gen's run 14psi on a T25 stock.

The 2g's only ran 8 psi stock

The are both built to handle up to 18 psi stock

But with a 16g at 15psi you will hit the fuel cut. The simple solution to that is injectors and pump. With that setup boosting 20 psi and a little tuning in a gst you are looking at about 350 to the wheels. The gst only has a 15% drivtrain loss compared to the gsx's with somthing like a 30% drivtrain loss.

dsm's are hp mules but the car is heavy as hell so you would get alot more out af a 350hp sr than out of a 350hp 4g63.

[EZcheese15]

The 2g's only ran 8 psi stock

The are both built to handle up to 18 psi stock

But with a 16g at 15psi you will hit the fuel cut. The simple solution to that is injectors and pump. With that setup boosting 20 psi and a little tuning in a gst you are looking at about 350 to the wheels. The gst only has a 15% drivtrain loss compared to the gsx's with somthing like a 30% drivtrain loss.

dsm's are hp mules but the car is heavy as hell so you would get alot more out af a 350hp sr than out of a 350hp 4g63.

You sure about that? I could SWEAR they run 14psi stock. I'm about to go have to find some proof.

[l.i.240]

No, 78 is how far GA goes back on emissions testing. 76 is the last year for no cats. So in otherwords, a 1977 model MUST have a cat, but it is not tested under GA law

1975 an on for cat's....................and unleaded fuel

[89sxRCR]

Quote »Iono about those 350 in 240 swaps. A couple friends and I went and test drove one in Indiana and it was doggy as hell. Just from the feel I wouldn't have said anything better than a mid fifteen in the quarter. To this day I wonder what was wrong with that car . . . worst of all it's the only V8 240Z swap I've had the privledge of riding/driving.[/quote]

Something was wayyyy wrong with that car then... either it wasnt really swapped or somethings broke... stock 240z's can get into the low 15s already so a swapped should get VERY good times. My neighbors before he swapped it smoked gsr's, now its sooo unbielvably fast, peels out at 40mph. you gotta find another v8 swap to drive, just for the experience )

[FrEaK]

http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/

They have an article on what they beilieve to be the cause of crankwalk and how it is unavoidable