Seeking advice Porsche 928

[Pat S]

What is the deal w/928s. I have always liked them, but have never owned one. I would like to think that they are some undiscovered supercar like my 91Q.

The prices look tempting. I am mechanically inclined (can do most work myself). Won't have to depend on the car as a daily driver.

Help! Talk me out of it!

Pat

[AZhitman]

There's another Q45 owner here who's a Porsche enthusiast... Can't recall who...

[Rex]

Maybe it's 911/Q45?

[AZhitman]

:thinker

[DAEDALUS]

My buddy recently wanted to get one, talked to guys who owned them, read stuff online. Too expensive to fix, too heavy to make fast, and too unreliable. My buddy ended up with a '95 300zx.

[HeavyDuty]

Make mine a 928S4, 4 valve V8, the "Gentlemans Express" of its day. 173(?) MPH top speed out of the box. So ugly it's cute.

Was just speaking out loud of one this morning.

"OK, who's the U-Boat Captain"-service advisor to Tom Cruise in 'Risky Business'

Never owned one, but *might* one day and an OCD style restoration wil ensue, I'm sure.

[elbles]

I looked at 944's and 928's for a while too, and the great thing about the 928 was its V8. But you'll notice Porsche hasn't used a V8 since either, heh. Unfortunately, I can't comment on the car anymore than that, as I just don't know enough about it, but you'll also notice that in addition to being in Risky Business, Tony Montana also drove one in Scarface. :-)

[Bin_jammin]

The 928 was meant to replace the 911, it was to be the new uber-mobile from Porsche, but the people buying the cars complained about the 911 being killed off, so Porsche decided to keep both cars on the assembly line, and the 911 outsold the 928...

[911/Q45]

I had an 87 928s4 5spd for 8 years. It was a great car on the street and track, but after 2 very expensive drive train failures it dawned on me that if Porsche didn't race them, then I probably shouldn't either so I got a 993 Twin Turbo. 928s have virtually no parts interchange with other Porsches, so parts are hard to get and very expensive. They are also extremely complex cars and require specialized expertise and many special tools that make a proper tech almost impossible to find. I would recommend against purchasing one, even though the initial cost is very low for such a sophisticated machine.

[HeavyDuty]

They are also extremely complex cars and require specialized expertise and many special tools that make a proper tech almost impossible to find. I would recommend against purchasing one, even though the initial cost is very low for such a sophisticated machine.

Sounds like a Q to me.

[elwesso]

But theres no equivalent to NICO and Infiniti of Scottsdale...

[cweberj30t]

I've heard of head gasket issues with 928's. Even if you can do most of the repairs, the parts are too expensive and hard to find.

[maxnix]

But you'll notice Porsche hasn't used a V8 since either, heh.

Only if the Cayenne is not considered a Porsche. Look for the Porsche V8 in another chassis in a year or two.

[Q45tech]

Plenty of Porsche Experts in Atlanta. Called one they said no more than $4,000 per year to keep them right after the $8-$15,000 to get them right for a used purchase.

But you sure can't buy take out engines for $1500 or trannies for $750 or diffs for $500..........or shocks for $70.

A 300zx TT/ TT Supra would be a lot more inexpensive to own.As the engines and trannys are glutting US.

They charge $90 per hour vs our $70

[psychic_mechanic]

The 944 are great driving cars, but can be expensive to maintain.

I know a guy in Maryland that swaps in just about any engine you could want into a 944 using the Porsche transaxle and evreything. The cost of the swap is usually less than a head gasket in a porsche engine.

If anyone is interested, I'll put you in touch with him.

[QShip]

Sounds like a Q to me.

LOL!

[driverdriver]

I use to have a '84 928s, great driving car that was a little skittish on wet roads(quality tires are a must). I had some issues, one time the headlights refused to rise, tilt and pop (but they turned on)-makes night driving a little difficult with your headlights shooting up straight into the night sky. I had to physically pop them. I also had water leak problems with the sunroof, front window and rear hatch, I used home and industrial indoor/outdoor clear silicone to solve that problem. I had some electrical issues, which where basically DIY projects with some used parts. Eventually I traded it straight up for a 1989 RX7.

If you live fairly close to a large city (i.e. Chicago, Toronto, New York) you can usually find independent shops that specialize in Porsches. They will keep the cost of ownership down. I never had problems finding used parts for my car. There are tons of 928's and 944's in the Toronto, Montreal(especially Montreal), New York City Triangle.

One of my favourite parts about the car was the nice short throw distance on the shifter and the way it hugged curves.

[louiegz]

The 944 are great driving cars, but can be expensive to maintain.

You ain't kidding! Let me tell you about my 1986 944 Turbo I had about 10 years ago. The prices I'm giving are approximate. It has been 10 years. The clutch went on me about a month after I purchased it. 10 hours of labor. The transmission is in the back for the 50/50 weight distribution so they have to remove the rear axel. Parts and labor about $1500.00. I hit a bump hard once and I broke the ball joint on the lower A arm and cracked the aluminum radiator. The a arm pissed me off because if I had an 85, I could have just replaced the ball joint for $50.00, instead I had to replace the whole A arm at a cost of over $500.00 for the part. A friend installed it so I got a break on labor. I paid for dinner on a double date. The radiator was a different story. $1000.00 then the tech told me I would need a liquid filled motor mount that the part was $200.00. I didn't have the money for that so I passed. I got some Koni shocks in the rears for about $300.00, cheap compared to the other stuff. Here's the topper, about 20,000 miles after the first clutch, I had to replace it again. It was about $1300.00 this time because I didn't replace the pressure plate and some barring. By this time I made the decision to get rid of the car so I didn't spring for the extra parts. $800.00 for the new sound system I installed and $800.00 for the Pirelli P700 that I got, $4600.00 in repairs for a car I just had for less that 2 years. I paid $13000.00 for the car back then and sold it for the bargain basement price of $5500. WHAT A LEMON!!!! I tell you one thing though, it was the best handling car that I have ever owned and when it wasn't in the shop it was a pleasure to drive. Do what you want with the 928 but be prepared to pay to play.

[maxnix]

Lucky you didn't have to do a water pump. I hear that job is north of $2K.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

Discover the power of the button!

[psychic_mechanic]

We had less than 5000 total in our first 924 project including the purchase of a car, and I think half of it was in the 327 small block.

One of the big selling points for the kit was the decreased cost of maintenance over the long term. Water pumps on the porsche engine are a major headache.

[Bin_jammin]

You ain't kidding! Let me tell you about my 1986 944 Turbo I had about 10 years ago. The prices I'm giving are approximate. It has been 10 years. The clutch went on me about a month after I purchased it. 10 hours of labor. The transmission is in the back for the 50/50 weight distribution so they have to remove the rear axel. Parts and labor about $1500.00. I hit a bump hard once and I broke the ball joint on the lower A arm and cracked the aluminum radiator. The a arm pissed me off because if I had an 85, I could have just replaced the ball joint for $50.00, instead I had to replace the whole A arm at a cost of over $500.00 for the part. A friend installed it so I got a break on labor. I paid for dinner on a double date. The radiator was a different story. $1000.00 then the tech told me I would need a liquid filled motor mount that the part was $200.00. I didn't have the money for that so I passed. I got some Koni shocks in the rears for about $300.00, cheap compared to the other stuff. Here's the topper, about 20,000 miles after the first clutch, I had to replace it again. It was about $1300.00 this time because I didn't replace the pressure plate and some barring. By this time I made the decision to get rid of the car so I didn't spring for the extra parts. $800.00 for the new sound system I installed and $800.00 for the Pirelli P700 that I got, $4600.00 in repairs for a car I just had for less that 2 years. I paid $13000.00 for the car back then and sold it for the bargain basement price of $5500. WHAT A LEMON!!!! I tell you one thing though, it was the best handling car that I have ever owned and when it wasn't in the shop it was a pleasure to drive. Do what you want with the 928 but be prepared to pay to play.

Yeah, but I bet it worked on the ladies.

[louiegz]

Yeah, but I bet it worked on the ladies.

How do you think I got my wife?:ylsuper

[stany]

I have had a 928S4 for over 13 years and it's a great car. It need regular maintainance, but since it's a HAND BUILT car; you can pretty much do everything yourself.

I haven't had the need for any real specialty tools; and the forums are great.

I think I've had more trouble trying to get info (and parts) on my 95 Q.

Just my $.02.

[nuQ]

INTERESTING!!!!!

[1992Q45A]

The UBER 928.

928 GTS

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6432

[elbles]

Oh man . . . that's love right there. ;-) Wouldn't you agree that a Porsche 928 would make a great high school graduation gift? :-)

[1992Q45A]

Only if you can afford the maintenance.

NOTHING worse then having a pimp ride, and not being able to afford to drive it.

[elbles]

Haha, the funny thing is, my 240 has been that way . . . and to think I skipped out on Porsche for Nissan reliability. Over $10k into the 240. :-) A mostly stock 1990 240 . . . :-)

[Jesda]

A friend of mine has a 928 for sale if youre interested. Drop me an email or else I'll forget to ask him. I dont recall the details on it -- he recently put a few grand into some parts (and labor). There's a small crack in the dash, the rest is in great shape. Year is somewhere in the late 80s?

-Jesda

[stany]

Jesda--You got all the good free stuff!! How come you live so far away?

I need to re-do my rear subframe on the 95 Q(help!!) and it'd be nice to have a door panel (drvr's) that wasn't trashed (wrinkled).

Any spec on the Swedish girls?

Do most Q owners have a Caddy? or just a fondness for 32 valve V8s? (I got 3; 928, deville (NS), Q)---now if gas would go down.....