Seeking advice Porsche 928

[Jesda]

door panel (drvr's) that wasn't trashed (wrinkled).

Any spec on the Swedish girls?

Do most Q owners have a Caddy? or just a fondness for 32 valve V8s? (I got 3; 928, deville (NS), Q)---now if gas would go down.....

I dont have the door panel, I just have the plastic piece that goes over the power window switches on the door - all black and for a 94-96 Q.

The rest of the pieces are:Black upper dash for 90-96 Q, has wood trim kit that was removed (still available) with glue residue remaining.Black lower dash for 90-93 Q, still has yellow/orange wood trim.Shift bezel, which also has the wood trim installed.

I would love to have a Seville STS, or a new Cadillac STS. But my other ride is a minivan.

And swedish girls? Google for Marie Serneholt or Elin Nordegren.

-Jesda

[Drover]

Yo folks, I'm the guy Jesda was talking about with the Porsche for sale. However, it's not a 928, It's an all-original, mechanically perfect 1987 Porsche 924S with 56,000 original miles. Please note that this is NOT the lamented, unloved VW/Audi-powered 924. THIS CAR IS 100% PORSCHE WITH A 2.5L 944 ENGINE AND DRIVELINE. With less weight, cleaner aerodynamics and a shorter 5th gear, this 150HP car is actually quicker than a 944 with the same engine. While it's not a high-powered drag-strip monster, it has quick, responsive acceleration and its handling and steering are poised, precise and go-kart quick. Its 50/50 weight distribution and 2750-lb curb weight will leave your Qs scrambling to keep pace when the roads get curvy.

THE GOOD:

--Only 56K original, CarFax-verified miles

--Major maintenance documented

--Very good original paint, only minor fading -- have to be up close to even notice

--No rust or major blemishes

--Impeccably clean interior with vinyl/cloth seats

--New timing and balance shaft belts

--New front seals (camshaft, balance shaft & crankshaft)

--New thermostat

--New oil pressure sending unit

--New Yokohama AVS dB S2 ultra high-performance all-season tires

--Upgraded water pump

--Tune-up (Rotor, cap, plugs and wires) 25K miles ago

--Fuel filter & oxygen sensors replaced 25K miles ago

--ice cold A/C

--Runs, looks & drives like great

--Strong clutch -- no slipping and grabs almost right off the floor

--ECU just rebuilt by Porsche enthusiast

--the following electrics work: radio & speakers, sunroof, mirrors, windows, pop-up headlights and in-dash clock

THE NOT-SO-GOOD:

--standard cracked dashboard and separated seam on driver's seat (very common on 924/944s)

--Slight paint fade on bumpers (bumpers slightly more faded than body panels due to different surface types; only detectable if examined up close)

--Could use an aftermarket temp gauge as the stock gauge is inaccurate

--electrics that don't work: rear-hatch release button, telescoping antenna (stuck in the "up" position so it still provides good reception)

--30,000 mile gap in maintenance records -- however, the car WAS maintained during that time period as the timing belt and water pump were replaced some time during this gap

--That's really it.

THIS IS NOT a "project car" or "fixer-upper." THIS IS A TURNKEY CAR THAT NEEDS NOTHING BUT A DRIVER. It has been well cared for and I have the maintenance records to prove it. No stories, no surprises. $6,000 and it's yours. Interested parties can PM me.

[Highway Q45]

Drover,Do you have this listed on Rennlist yet? As you can see I'm partial to the watercoolers myself. Sounds like a nice car, price is right in there also. Whenever I see someone asking if the 928 is a good car I cringe, good for draining the wallet of the next buyer if they don't know what they are getting into. I love my Q now that I've debugged it but could never afford it if I had shops do my work, same as my other obsession for the 944/951's. Good Luck with the sale.

[Mr1der]

ol pokey...that's funny...

even funnier when referring to a Porsche:D

[Highway Q45]

It's all relative...Ol Pokey will toast either of my turbos on a real tight mountain road, the power band is wider on the N/A without the schizoid hammer (I'm gonna die syndrome!) of a turbo coming out of a tight turn with too much foot. But then again give the turbo a 1/16 of a mile to pass and all bets are off. Both cars are just excellent road cars with different manners. Chips, exhaust, and WG shims alone bring the black one up to 300+HP. Twice what the N/A puts out from the same engine.

Man, I love that bomb video!

[downtempo]

that was my last car, 1988 924S. Great bang for the buck, kinda like the Q, but different. First night I took it out after I bought it, picked a girl up of the streets of Hoboken and...

[Highway Q45]

picked a girl up off the streets of Hoboken and...

Boy I'm not going to touch that one!

[Drover]

Hey, some Porsches were genuinely slow. The 914 and original 924 were downright glacial. By today's standards, the 944 is a dog. A standard 4-cylinder stick-shift Altima will clean a 944's clock at the drag strip. But when the road gets curvy, the Altima is toast...

Highwayguy, I haven't really listed it around yet because it's still in the shop having some final touches done to it. Once I have it in my driveway with good pictures, I'll start listing it around (Rennlist, Pelican Parts, etc.).

BTW, what is a 1986 turbo "S" ? I thought the S option was only available in '88 and '89 (when it became "standard")... Is yours an 86 turbo upgraded to S spec?

[Highway Q45]

Drover,Yes my 86 has been upgraded with the K26/8, 3-bar FPR, and dedicated 24-pin chip set from Danno at Guru. Other than test pipe and exhaust it's pretty standard compared to some of the monsters in our local group...a friend at work sold his 87 924S for $7500. It was a very nice lo mile example. I never could figure out why the 924S stayed with the early dashboard though...doesn't figure. Good Luck on your sale.

[tkd_q45]

928 - MY87+ is one of my all time favorite cars! My cousin-in-law has one, black on black. I'd love to buy it off him if/when I can.

I think the COOLEST thing about this car is the sound the engine makes when you turn the key. That alone is nearly worth the hassle. Then there is the sound/feel of those vault like precision fitted doors!

Yes, can be a maitanance nightmare but is so nice to drive. Very much like the Q in that it is comfortable, fast, unusual and great for covering long distances. A true GT.

Don't settle for a 944 - much less of a car. Not disrespect meant, but it's like driving an i30 or J30 then getting into the Q.

Do check out Rennlist (great group, much like this one), Devek, 928 International

[Drover]

Don't settle for a 944 - much less of a car. Not disrespect meant, but it's like driving an i30 or J30 then getting into the Q.

Except that the I30, J30 and Q45 are all basically straight-line machines that corner with above-average competence. Yeh, there are important differences in their driving characteristics, esp. the FWD I30, but their fundamental task is the same even if they approach it from different angles and with different levels of creature comfort.

On the other hand, The 928 and the 944 are built for completely different uses. OK, the 928 will do 150MPH from sunrise to sunset without breaking a sweat. But here in America, how often do you get to do that? On the other hand, take your cousin's 928 to an autocross and you'll get your arse handed to you by stock Miatas, stock Neons, stock CRXs, and yes, stock 944s.

If you want a fast, straight-line cruiser that handles corners pretty well but will eat you out of your own house, get a 928. (Better yet, NICO folks, stick with your Qs -- they won't eat you out of your own house nearly as quickly). If you don't need a 175mph autobahn torpedo but want something that will handle the curves like a go-kart and still drive at triple-digit speeds with confidence, check out a 944.

As the saying goes, straight roads are for fast cars; curvy roads are for fast drivers.

[tkd_q45]

Points well taken. The 928 is NOT an autox or track car (at least in stock form). It is first an formost a GT. Yes an i30 or J30 have a more nimble feel. It's just that for me, after driving both those cars, then getting into my 1st Gen Q - the Q feels so much more in a different league. The way the Q moves down the road is so nice. It's hard for me to describe. But I digress.

The 928 is good for swift transportation. Not balls to the walls all out driving. It's out of character for what it was made for. I think it appeals to us older guys who still like to have some fun, but are not concerned with trying to keep up with the younger/racer folk. I spent an afternoon on Angeles Crest hwy I for me, it handles just fine. If I were to test the limits of this car I'd be in over my head.

I love the 928 for the experiential aspect of use. As I mentioned the sounds and feel are just amazing. I've always have loved the shape of this car. I fell in love with this car way back in 77 when I first had seen it. It's amazing to see how far ahead of it's time it was and how many cars have borrowed elements from it. I think in it's latest incarnations, it still looks current and fresh.

[stany]

get compliments all the time... not bad for a twenty something!!