searching does no good.

[EviL inside]

after searching for a week, and reading MULTIPLE confirmations that 17X9 +25 will fit S13 rear without rolling the fender, for the record, i now know that 17X9 +25 WILL NOT FIT the rear without rolling the fender. now i've got some f***ing wheels i gotta try to re-sell, and hope i don't book too much of a loss.

if only the search function had a filter like "only show responses from people who have ACTUALLY done this, and aren't talking through their rectum"

[tctomasc]

they're prolly not talking out of their rectum, and infact have a different suspension geometry than you. For some reason or another you might have more camber and thus yours don't tuck while someone elses might. Invest a couple bucks in some rucas, and dont bite the bullet on the wheels.

[EviL inside]

i have RUCA's, and -1.4* camber still nowhere NEAR what will make these tuck.

[tctomasc]

damn, that is a fair amount of camber. That is actually pretty obnoxious now that I see where your coming from. It was hard with no background, but that really doesn't sound like it would fit now that i think more. you got like what, an inch-inch and a half out of the fenders huh? got pictures, just too see what it would take to fit em?

[EviL inside]

the TREAD is about an inch exposed. and that's WITH a stretched tire. 215/45 on a 9" wheel was enough stretch they had to use a cheetah tank to seat it.

[tctomasc]

ya, i just saw a pic of your car and tire fitment in that other thread with the dude that had the pbm coils. Altho unsafe, you can definitely get a more stretched tire, and you could get more camber out the back. But then again is it really worth it. Idk how much camber u can run on a tire stretched that much without running it on the sidewall....

[S13Teddy]

Umm? I can't see where your problem is. This photo was taken "pre-spacers", meaning the wheel specs were 17X9 +20, which was technically more aggressive than what you're trying to run now.

I could fit my foot between the wheel and the fender.



Oh yeah, and these coilovers are maxxed out with no collars.

[EviL inside]

not sure if there's a difference between coupes and hatches, but my wheels specs are right and there's a problem. wanna trade?

if i had gone with the 962's and +35 in the first place, i would have had no problems.

[S13Teddy]

I can't understand how you're having any problems to being with? Explain how people can run x10s with low offsets on a stock bodied 240, but you're not able to run a x9 +25?

Something doesn't make sense.

[EviL inside]

well, other than RUCA's, my S13 has stock suspension. the 17x7's +38 i had on there were a little sunk, as should be expected.

[S13Teddy]

Okay? I must be missing the part where you're having trouble fitting sunken wheels.

[Razi]

OP, did you get massive *** tires or something?Why can't you fit them?

[EviL inside]

Okay? I must be missing the part where you're having trouble fitting sunken wheels.

what you're missing is the full text of my posts, the ones that i just posted a picture of was the old wheels, 17X7 +38. the NEW wheels that i can't run without fender rolling are 17X9 +25.

the tires on the new wheels are 215/45, nowhere near massive.

[S13Teddy]

So explain why I can fit my 17x9 +20s with the exact same tires on a lowered car with minimal camber, but you can't fit a 17x9 +25 with the same tires on a stock height car?

[EviL inside]

not sure if there's a difference between coupes and hatches, but my wheels specs are right and there's a problem. wanna trade?

[S13Teddy]

Look at my rears. Sunken as heck.

Fronts are with a 25mm spacer! They still fit.

[EviL inside]

coupe ----- hatch not sure if there's a difference

should i take a pic of the wheels specs stamped into the back of the wheels?

[S13Teddy]

What are you talking about??? They're the same chassis!

[Tulsa_S-13]

So explain why I can fit my 17x9 +20s with the exact same tires on a lowered car with minimal camber, but you can't fit a 17x9 +25 with the same tires on a stock height car?

Just for a reference, here is a pic of my 5zigen FNs 17x9 +20 all around.

I really need to get around to using my roller on the rear. This is WITHOUT any spacers. Yes they stick out.

[S13Teddy]

Yeah, but look at the size of your tires.

[EviL inside]

What are you talking about??? They're the same chassis!

aren't the rear fenders different?

[Tulsa_S-13]

Yeah, but look at the size of your tires.

245s of course, anything else would have been pointless. I could have fit 255s if I had wanted to.

215s on a 9? On my SEs I was rocking 205s.

Regardless of what tire size I used, the lip of the wheel still sticks past the fenders.

[S13Teddy]

aren't the rear fenders different?

No, because I've test fitted wheels that came off people's hatches, and they fit the same.

[jeff420]

if they were different then nissan would have had to made different offset factory wheels for hatch and coupe.

[S13Teddy]

245s of course, anything else would have been pointless. I could have fit 255s if I had wanted to.

215s on a 9? On my SEs I was rocking 205s.

Even with 245s the lip of the wheel still sticks past the fenders.

Well with tire specs like that, I'd assume you grip.

I drift, so if I ran tires any bigger I'd end up going straight when I kick the clutch.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

idahotuner's sil40



235/40 front275/40 rear

Elites: 17x9 +15 all around NO CAMBER

What is the problem?

[Lev_96_240sx]

If it's sticking out as much as you say you'll need a slight pull and a roll, either way you're better off getting that then ditching some good wheels for smaller ones. And it's not expensive, you could get both rears pulled and rolled for under $100.

But in case you decide to switch wheels, get some respectable tires on there. Putting undersized tires on a wide wheel is unsafe and pointless.

[EviL inside]

the only reason i put the 215's on there was because i had 6 of them, figured i'd use them up first. i would'nt drive the above posted car as a DD, he must either have some REALLY stiff springs, or hates his fenders, and wishes to beat them with the tires. that car will rub. i don't want to rub, and want to drive the car to work and back, 52-mile round trip every day.

what's the problem? you tell me. i have a stock S13 hatch, the only suspension mods are RUCA's, eibach sportlines, and tokico struts. i have 17X9 +25 wheels with 215/45's that won't fit the back without beating the fender to a pulp the first time i cross a bridge.

[adrianfromthecastle]

wait... did I miss the part where the OP stated why he didn't want to roll the fenders?

Its not hard.

[EviL inside]

which method?

i tend to make dents with hammers.

can't drop $250 on an eastwood fender roller, i don't live with my parents, and i have a house note, car note (wife's '08 versa), etc., especially since she wrecked the versa, and i gotta pay the deductible.

i specifically searched for what would fit WITHOUT rolling/"pulling". maybe i should have specified "nearly undriveable rubbing"?