saw a 2004 WRX STI on the road today

[Onizuka]

I saw a STI driving around all over the place, there was a bunch of azn gangtas in it. It was blue of course with the bronze rims. Very very very very very sexy.

I dunno just thought i'd share, has anybody else seen one?

[nlzmo400r]

i havent seen one around here, or even an o4 wrx for that matter, i dont even know of suby dealer around here!!, i hear that the bronze wheels can also be had in gunmetal grey!, now thta would be a hard decision for me, i like the bronze, but everyone is going to have em, so i would get a black STi, with gunmetal wheels, do hte STi's even come in another color, come to think of it, everyone ive seen in mags is blue

[Tino]

i seen an evo 8

[ace135cc]

yeah i've seen a few STIs and EVO8s around here, since i live a few miles from the subaru and mitsu dealers, if the cars weren't in their show rooms i would have test driven some

[Cold_Zero]

I have seen the Black STi up close with the stock Silver BBS wheels. Truely a sight to see. The hood scoop looks like it could swallow a flock of geese.

The only place I have seen the Evo8 is at IRP (Indianapolis Raceway Park). I really dont see them on the street that much. I guess that is a good thing, since they would hand me my ***!

Hopefully this riveraly will prompt other car makers to jump into the fold and develope some mean cars!

[nlzmo400r]

yea like nissan!!, hook us up with a 4wd turbo version of the 35oZ !

[Cold_Zero]

how about awd turbo Spec V's?

[nlzmo400r]

actually, i think that would be awesome, id' probably rather a turbo spec V with awd than a 35o, the 35o's are no lightweight as it is, and they already cost about 35k for a track model, but ive herad rumors of TT g35coupes and such, with AWD, and tihs will be our'gt-r' or some crap, i dunno, to me a g35 is MUCH more like a 35oZ than any skyline

[PalmerWMD]

Yes turbo AWD SpecV is what we NEED!

CRAVE!!!!

I want a real edgy car, to drive that I can buy, so i dont have to watch some of my nissan friends buy WRX's and EVO 8's , when they would have bought the right Nissan product if it was hard core enough.

And I want something real hard core that can outrun the Z28's yet still be an import/Nissan-Infiniti

Fred..

[nlzmo400r]

Yes turbo AWD SpecV is what we NEED!

CRAVE!!!!

I want a real edgy car, to drive that I can buy, so i dont have to watch some of my nissan friends buy WRX's and EVO III's , when they would have bought the right Nissan product if it was hard core enough.

And I want something real hard core that can outrun the Z28's yet still be an import/Nissan-Infiniti

Fred..

agreed, i notice a couple of our memebers have gotten wrx's and ive seen one EVo 8, and thats great, but i wish nissan had something to match it, for the price , the 35oZ is an amazing performance car, but its simply out done in basically every way by the STi, or EVo8, the only thing i like better about the 35oZ is the fact that its nissan, and to me it looks better

[PalmerWMD]

The 350Z looks better and maybe is classier., but I envy the egdiness of the Evo8 and STI...

Fred...

[nlzmo400r]

yea, the EVO and STi, easily out perform the 35oZ in pretty much every aspect, it is kind of a bummer, and they're all in the same price range too, and the EVo8 and STi are more practical having 4drs and such (well, only if u need them), but i have to stay loyal to nissan, so if i was given any one of these three cars, give me teh 35oZ

[Cold_Zero]

The 350Z and the Evo8 and STi are not in the same classification. They have similar performance numbers and cost about the same amount of money. Could you imagine though a 300bhp SpecV with all wheel drive? Nissan wouldn't release something like that because it woudl interfere with the 350Z. Isnt that the main reason why they didnt bring over the Silvia in the first place? They didnt want it competing with the 300ZX.

Basically, Nissan doesnt need the STi, cause it has the 350Z. And admit it. The girls are more prone to flock to a 350Z than a STi anyways!

[nlzmo400r]

i didnt say same classification neccasarily, just same price range, and yes girls are def more liable to flock to a 35oZ, they' re just better, more exotic looking, and sexier

[PalmerWMD]

And admit it. The girls are more prone to flock to a 350Z than a STi anyways!

This is certainly an important consideration...:naughty

But, I just want the extreme edginess and tossability of a 3000 lb car with 300hp and AWD.

Fred...

[Onizuka]

sentra GTiR :ylsuper

[BadMojo]

I wish Nissan had a vehicle that could compete with the plain old WRX. I looked at an SE-R Spec V and it just didn't do it for me. It doesn't seem like there are big changes in store for the '04 Spec V's either.

[PalmerWMD]

I wish Nissan had a vehicle that could compete with the plain old WRX.

For an extra 4k there is the base 350Z, with much more curb appeal.

Fred...

[pcbootleger]

yea, the EVO and STi, easily out perform the 35oZ in pretty much every aspect, it is kind of a bummer, and they're all in the same price range too, and the EVo8 and STi are more practical having 4drs and such (well, only if u need them), but i have to stay loyal to nissan, so if i was given any one of these three cars, give me teh 35oZ

but you have to look at like this.. The wrx's and evo come with turbos at like 10 psi each or something like that. the 350z is N/A. Slap a turbo on that and you have no competition at all. The 350z has way more potential than the wrx and evos in my opinion. At least for the 1/4 mile. Its just like how my roomate compares a srt4 with a 350z (yeah who would have ever thought of comparing a ugly neon to a Z!?!?). That srt4 is a lot cheaper and VERY close to performance to the 350Z. But that srt4 is pretty much modified to the max and there is only so much more you can do to it. Whereas the 350Z has so many mods that can be done to it. Put the same size turbo in the z and that srt4 just got blown away. Thats how I look at it at least.

[BadMojo]

For an extra 4k there is the base 350Z, with much more curb appeal.Fred...

Yeah, I'd love to have a Z. Hell, if the SE-R were RWD, I'd take that. It's got decent power and seems to have plenty of goodies (nice brake package on the 2004's, VLSD). It seems like excellent competition for the Focus SVT and Mazdaspeed Protege.

Still, something's just not quite right about a powerful (fairly so) FWD car...like putting ketchup on ice cream. If I can help it, I'll never go back to a FWD car after having purchased my 240SX.

I'd still like to test drive a Spec-V. I'm curious to see if the torque steer is really as bad as people say it is. The local dealership offered me test drive in a Z, so I might have to take them up on their offer.

[nlzmo400r]

but you have to look at like this.. The wrx's and evo come with turbos at like 10 psi each or something like that. the 350z is N/A. Slap a turbo on that and you have no competition at all. The 350z has way more potential than the wrx and evos in my opinion. At least for the 1/4 mile. Its just like how my roomate compares a srt4 with a 350z (yeah who would have ever thought of comparing a ugly neon to a Z!?!?). That srt4 is a lot cheaper and VERY close to performance to the 350Z. But that srt4 is pretty much modified to the max and there is only so much more you can do to it. Whereas the 350Z has so many mods that can be done to it. Put the same size turbo in the z and that srt4 just got blown away. Thats how I look at it at least.

yea, you have a good point about being tuned to the edge from the factory, the evo tubo max's at 19psi, and the STi 14.5 psi, and the srt-4 is almost as fast in the quarter, but i think itd be safe to say the 35oZ would own on the track

[nlzmo400r]

Yeah, I'd love to have a Z. Hell, if the SE-R were RWD, I'd take that. It's got decent power and seems to have plenty of goodies (nice brake package on the 2004's, VLSD). It seems like excellent competition for the Focus SVT and Mazdaspeed Protege.

Still, something's just not quite right about a powerful (fairly so) FWD car...like putting ketchup on ice cream. If I can help it, I'll never go back to a FWD car after having purchased my 240SX.

I'd still like to test drive a Spec-V. I'm curious to see if the torque steer is really as bad as people say it is. The local dealership offered me test drive in a Z, so I might have to take them up on their offer.

go drive the Z and the spec V!!, i kinda like the torque steer, makes it feel more powerful than it really is, hell my altima torque steers when coming out of corners at high revs :naughty

[Cold_Zero]

For an extra 4k there is the base 350Z, with much more curb appeal.

Fred...

Fred-You can always justify spending more money to move up the car line. And to be honest, the 350Z is not a sport compact (like the SRT-4, EVO8 and STi) like the WRX is (which has its pluses and negatives) and if I owned is not something I would take out in inclement weather. WRX excels in a lot of areas not just a few. As I tell everyone looking to buy a car, sit down and figure out what you want and what you are going to do with it. The reason why we have different carmakers and car lineups is because everyone has different needs and wants.

Pcbootleger-The WRX obviously comes tuned from the factory. But has a ton of untapped potential. Specifically in the exhaust system (3 cats). There are also tuning shops and parts companies in Japan, Australia (huge following), Europe and America. I have seen many different upgrade paths and to be honest, most WRX drivers follow their own path. One guy will do brakes and suspension first, while another will upgrade the turbo and install up and down-pipes. There are plenty of go fast OEM and aftermarket parts available (my buddy Taka has every known STi part on his Wagon) that will make me drool and my wife curse for spending so much money.

bud

[nlzmo400r]

i dont know if i would call the EVO8, and STi sport compacts either, they're not that small

[Cold_Zero]

Rob-Cars like the Impreza (RS,WRX &STi) and the Lancer (EVO8) define the category "Sport Compact." They are both sub-compact cars in their EPA listings. I think that the magazine Sport Compact Car has skewed the definition of this category. But when I think of sport compacts cars, I also think of Eclipses, the Spec V, Jettas, Golfs, the Focus and the Civic Si. I am sure I left a lot out of this list. Just because the Impreza and the Lancer has four doors does not exclude them from this class.

[nlzmo400r]

the spec V has four doors, but i consider them sport compacts, however when i think evo8 and sti, i think 'sports car' as opposed to sport compact, they arent huge cars by any means, but no smaller than other 'sports cars' such as mustangs and camaros

[Cold_Zero]

I spent last week in my Altima and it felt like a boat compared to my WRX. It is a smaller car than the Altima and other cars.

[Dano]

today i got to see a guy i know's STi and his brother's Audi S4 (AWD V6 Bi-Turbo) and we went and checked out a GT-R... we were runnin down the road with turbo M3 next to STi and i was in my buddy's turbo Z behind them with the S4 right next to us...all u heard was boost:D just thought id share.

btw, STi has about a car length over an E46 M3 SMG with stage I Dinan chip

-Dan

[Cold_Zero]

That was a hard story to keep track of. Impressive non the less!

[240SXd00d]

The WRX and the WRX STi are damn good cars. My only problem with the STi is it's overly styled...although supposedly everything is functional.