saw a 2004 WRX STI on the road today

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

I have yet to be in one (STi) going over 100mph but I want to listen to the road noise. I get something I call the 100mph howel. I think it is noise from the wind hitting some piece of the car body.

Post by **240SXd00d** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Cold_Zero wrote:I have yet to be in one (STi) going over 100mph but I want to listen to the road noise. I get something I call the 100mph howel. I think it is noise from the wind hitting some piece of the car body.

It's probably design specific...but the WRX has a lot of mail slots (sic) etc to get air caught in. :pface

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

240sx2nr95 wrote:today i got to see a guy i know's STi and his brother's Audi S4 (AWD V6 Bi-Turbo) and we went and checked out a GT-R... we were runnin down the road with turbo M3 next to STi and i was in my buddy's turbo Z behind them with the S4 right next to us...all u heard was boost:D just thought id share.

btw, STi has about a car length over an E46 M3 SMG with stage I Dinan chip

-Dan

ok, i gotta keep up, s4(stock?) cool, checked out a GT-R??!! u live in kansas rite? is this at an import place?, turbo m3 (this is the e46 that the sti put a car on? with 333 STOCK hp?), and the turbo Z is im guessin a z32 twin turbo(stock?), ok, thats all my questoins, also, how did hte STi put a car length on a blown e46?, sorry for so many damn questions, im just tryin to figure stuf out

Post by **Dano** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

nlzmo400r wrote:ok, i gotta keep up, s4(stock?) cool, checked out a GT-R??!! u live in kansas rite? is this at an import place?, turbo m3 (this is the e46 that the sti put a car on? with 333 STOCK hp?), and the turbo Z is im guessin a z32 twin turbo(stock?), ok, thats all my questoins, also, how did hte STi put a car length on a blown e46?, sorry for so many damn questions, im just tryin to figure stuf out

hahaha, sorry i was too tired last nite, yeah the S4 was stock, the Turbo M3 is an E36, the Z was a Z31 Turbo (50th anniversary Edition) and the Sti beat a N/A E46 M3 SMG with Dinan stage I software upgrade.

-Dan

Post by **240SXd00d** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Do any of you guys have a markup on the STi in your area?

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

About a $1794 markup currently on the STi's. MSRP is $30,995.

Post by **pcbootleger** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

nlzmo400r wrote:yea, you have a good point about being tuned to the edge from the factory, the evo tubo max's at 19psi, and the STi 14.5 psi, and the srt-4 is almost as fast in the quarter, but i think itd be safe to say the 35oZ would own on the track

I wish. but the wrx Sti, evo(USA), and srt-4 all beat it in the 1/4 mile http://www.car-videos.com/perf...2=188 http://www.car-videos.com/perf...2=188 http://www.car-videos.com/perf...2=227

or were you talking about an autocross track? Even then it might be REALLY close. I just hope nissan puts a turbo on the 350z. Then those cars would be out classed.

Post by **shinobi** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

i beat an sti the other week. it was a rolling start in first... which helped me out a lot also, because from the line im sure he woulda jumped on me. i gained on every shift and while we were in gear we were pretty even. but yeah, just thought id share. we ran twice, its a guy that works next door to me. very close run.

btw. basically stock sr in a f/b, boosting .8-.9 bar.

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Like Fred said, if Nissan had something comparible and practical at the same time I would have opted for that over the Evo 8 just because of my Nissan roots...but there isn't anything to be offered. As stock, the WRX, STI and EVo aren't even close to potential power output. And power is being pulled out of these extremely cheaply. I "heard" the STI was having some detonation problems but I would have to cruise NASIOC some more to get the facts.pcbootleger, i think Nissan would be afraid to turbo the 350 for fear that the price would skyrocket much like the Z did with the VG30DETT. Just much too costly. Add another $4-5000 on to the current 350Z MSRP for engine work and turbo hardware and sales go way down. Would make a great used car in a couple years like the TT's.... but new..????

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Mayhem_J30 wrote:I "heard" the STI was having some detonation problems but I would have to cruise NASIOC some more to get the facts.

Maybe if you were jacking up the boost. I have not heard such claims.

Post by **Onizuka** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Mayhem_J30 wrote:Like Fred said, if Nissan had something comparible and practical at the same time I would have opted for that over the Evo 8 just because of my Nissan roots...but there isn't anything to be offered. As stock, the WRX, STI and EVo aren't even close to potential power output. And power is being pulled out of these extremely cheaply. I "heard" the STI was having some detonation problems but I would have to cruise NASIOC some more to get the facts.pcbootleger, i think Nissan would be afraid to turbo the 350 for fear that the price would skyrocket much like the Z did with the VG30DETT. Just much too costly. Add another $4-5000 on to the current 350Z MSRP for engine work and turbo hardware and sales go way down. Would make a great used car in a couple years like the TT's.... but new..????

how much did Z32 TTs end up costing at the end of their production run? I bet a TT 350Z would still be about 10K cheaper than the z32 TT when it was new. Gimmi the facts, im too lazy to reasearch :pface

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Cold_Zero wrote:Maybe if you were jacking up the boost. I have not heard such claims.

It's been happening on completely stock STI's...not all of them but some (apparently)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...ationh ... um...ation

I'm sure Cold_zero is registered, but everyone else will prob have to reg to view. Just search the STI section for "detonation" and you'll get plenty of results.

Quote »how much did Z32 TTs end up costing at the end of their production run? I bet a TT 350Z would still be about 10K cheaper than the z32 TT when it was new. Gimmi the facts, im too lazy to reasearch [/quote]

A 95 Z32 TT cost between $40K and $50K USD. That was 8-9 years ago!! I'm not sure how you would figure what that price is today but without figuring in inflation it's still $10K more. A price that, even today, is out of many of our reach. Turbos (especially 2) = hardware = money

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

If you are pinging on 94 Octane. You got major problems! I have heard WRX's pinging on 91 with chip upgrades. I would use the same logic with the STi's and suggest only running 93 octane for the power that you are making.

I like what kevin said:

This is like the WRX "glass transmission" problem. It gets chattered about and grows and grows until it becomes the stuff of legend, and a fundamental characteristic of the car, rather than an aberration.

Kevin

http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...ation

So much crap gets flug around that people start believing this stuff. I have yet to meet a WRX owner in our club that has needed a new transmission in his '02.

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Cold_Zero wrote:If you are pinging on 94 Octane. You got major problems! I have heard WRX's pinging on 91 with chip upgrades. I would use the same logic with the STi's and suggest only running 93 octane for the power that you are making.

I like what kevin said:

This is like the WRX "glass transmission" problem. It gets chattered about and grows and grows until it becomes the stuff of legend, and a fundamental characteristic of the car, rather than an aberration.

Kevin

http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...ation

So much crap gets flug around that people start believing this stuff. I have yet to meet a WRX owner in our club that has needed a new transmission in his '02.

I figured as much, that's just the nature of the internet. But it's worth the concern. You can either deal with that or the Evo's weak *** clutch.

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Mayhem_J30 wrote:You can either deal with that or the Evo's weak *** clutch.

That sounds like a good thing. It justifies buying a new and better clutch.

Bad gas and pinging is a concern for any car. There are many reasons why you can get pinging and you dont want it to go on for very long.

bud

Post by **huckedup16** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

<----has driven STI

2.5L = teh massive torque...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

shinobi wrote:i beat an sti the other week. it was a rolling start in first... which helped me out a lot also, because from the line im sure he woulda jumped on me. i gained on every shift and while we were in gear we were pretty even. but yeah, just thought id share. we ran twice, its a guy that works next door to me. very close run.

btw. basically stock sr in a f/b, boosting .8-.9 bar.

wow!!, im not good with the whole bar to psi conversion, so could u put that in idiot terms for me?? because a 'basically stock' SR would have roughyl 2oohp, and the sti's got 3oo, so im just curious how much hp u gained from crankin up the 'oll hairdryer

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

nlzmo400r wrote:wow!!, im not good with the whole bar to psi conversion, so could u put that in idiot terms for me?? because a 'basically stock' SR would have roughyl 2oohp, and the sti's got 3oo, so im just curious how much hp u gained from crankin up the 'oll hairdryer

1.01325 bars = 14.696 lb/in2 absolute (not gauge)

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

thanks for the conversion, but whats absolute and 'not gauge' ?

Post by **gibbo80** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

ok i just have a simple request, no not a awd 350 or anything i just want to see a wrx crack a 13. All i have seen is high 14s and these are modded such as buds wrx. Y are these things so fricken slow. The evo 8 guy at are local track was hitting 13.4 stock. To me the wrx was a waste of time to talk about being fast. No one can drive them or they really are just junk. The srt is fast from what i have seen. When we were in indy the guy had his for 2 days and he was hitting 13.9 stock. Bud was sitting there hitting his 14.9. Everyone always talks about them not being as fast but from what i have seen they are better. Can someone please exsplain y 50/50 awd is better? People have to launch to low so they dont break anything. With fwd or rwd you just have to worry about tire spin not breaking something. 2wd is better imho because with slicks your just as fast and are easier to drive. I would want the spec or the 350 if they were awd because they would be hard to drive and the same times are just as reachable with some slicks. AWd is over rated unless it is like 70/30 where tire spin is possible to not break things.

GO ahead and prove me wrong bud and hit a 13.8 if not no wrx guy can talk because you saw it run bud.

Post by **gibbo80** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

ive been hearing about alot of probs with wrx already. I bet the srt will not have hardly any they designed it that way. better car imho.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

all depends on the driver my friend, the reason car and driver and such get low 1/4 times is because they break tires loose, and they do this by launching at insane revs, this, as im sure u already know, isnt great for the car, but its how u get the fastest times, plain and simple, if u want better times, launch at high rpms

Post by **gibbo80** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

since when does tire spin help the 1/4, the guy had no tire spin maybe a squak but nothing more. THe less tire spin you have the better thats y awd is supposed to be better.

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

gibbo80 wrote:ive been hearing about alot of probs with wrx already.

Like what types of problems? I have to say 8 months and I have had no problems.

Quote »I bet the srt will not have hardly any they designed it that way. better car imho. [/quote]

Only time will tell who will and wont have problems with their car. I think the WRX is a better car, imho.

Post by **Jesda** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Tire spin is not good for the 1/4 mile. Its mostly good for impressing dumb chicks.

Statistically, the WRX has been more reliable than the Neon SRT4.

Post by **Onizuka** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

I would not mind having either if someone was going to give me one. If i had to buy one, i would get neither, and spend my cash on a phat G35 coupe

Post by **toki** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

I saw one at the mall today, the guy was being cool and flooring it between stop signs (50 feet). and then look around all non chalantly to see who was looking. I yelled h0m0 at him.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:37 am

Jesda wrote:Tire spin is not good for the 1/4 mile. Its mostly good for impressing dumb chicks.

Statistically, the WRX has been more reliable than the Neon SRT4.

actually, wheels spin (very minimal of course) is good for 1/4 time slips, when a 4wd car launches, if it doesnt have ANY tire spin, it will bog down and you will naturally have slower times, however when slight wheel spin occurs, it 'bleeds' some of the power and the motor does not bog down, therefore you stay in the better part of the power band and you get better times, trust me, i didnt just make it up

saw a 2004 WRX STI on the road today

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