Save My Baby!

[nissangirl74]

I was listening to talk radio on the way home from class today. They were discussing the epidemic of babies dieing in hot cars. 41 children have perished so far this year, the highest of any year records have been kept. For some reason, the government feels like they need to get involved in this situation. There is legislation being considered to mandate that car companies install detection devices in vehicles so no one is left behind. Really??? Do we need the government to tell us to keep up with our kids? That is SUCH s***!!! How in the hell do you forget your child is in the car with you? How do you not know where your children are?

The USA today article talking about the proposed regulations and system modifications:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/201 ... 1_ST_N.htm

An article from July listing the names of the 23 children that had died up to that point and the circumstances behind their deaths.
http://www.momlogic.com/2010/07/23_chil ... s_year.php


Was I just overprotective as a Mom? Because I can not fathom ever getting out of my car without my child. It makes me sick to me stomach.

[Dana_15]

I never leave my kid in the car, ever. 60 Minutes just did a story about this three weeks ago, it was very informative.

[AppleBonker]

Because we need to save people from themselves, apparently. No one is ever wrong, it's always someone else's fault. That's just the way society is becoming (don't get me wrong, I hate it). A little story to demonstrate this even more (I told this story in Learned'd, but a lot of people don't venture into that moral wasteland):

I was at the beach on Saturday, and the lifeguard station regularly announced missing children. Something along the lines of, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have another missing child to report. Johnny is four years old and is wearing blue swim trunks. If you see him, or Johnny if you can hear this, please talk to your nearest lifeguard immediately". Then they would announce when the kid was found and everyone would clap and feel all giddy. I just so happened to be sitting near the spot where a lifeguard returned the child to his mother in one of these cases. Oddly enough, the first thing the lifeguard said to the mother was "you've raised him well. He wouldn't talk to strangers at all". I was completely baffled. Is this the type of person that deserves any praise for their parenting skills? I mean, they just LOST their child. This is a beach. Child predators patrol these places and parks all the time. Shouldn't this person be reprimanded and not praised? But again, I'm sure it was someone else's fault and she's a great parent. Hell, it was probably my fault for not looking after little Johnny for her while she yapped on the phone to one of her friends.

[Dattebayo]

They should make all mothers take a piss test before they can drive the car.

[Crazyirish]

Hell, it was probably my fault for not looking after little Johnny for her while she yapped on the phone to one of her friends.

See, not everyone is avoiding responsibility.

I worked at Kinko's once upon a time. I can't tell you how many times people would tell me they needed their copies faster than I said I could get them, because (drumroll.....) they left their baby sitting out in the car. Sheesh.

[SullivanRacing06]

They should make all mothers take a piss test before they can drive the car.

lmfao there ya go

[Loki]

It would save many more lives to forcibly limit the reproductive capabilities of females and males determined by his or her intellectual capabilities.

[RCA]

It shouldn't be the government's job to intervene on people's stupidity. Not to be insensitive but 41 deaths isn't a big deal in the broad scope of things. As a consumer I don't want the prices of cars to rise because the US governments forces car makers to put devices to monitors something so ridiculous.

Teach them to be better parents, not give them a child negligence safety net.

It would save many more lives to forcibly limit the reproductive capabilities of females and males determined by his or her intellectual capabilities.

Sometimes I wish I could vote comments of others....

[nissangirl74]

Teach them to be better parents, not give them a child negligence safety net.

This.

Plus, I don't want the government up in my business at all, let alone this much. If you need someone to remind you to take care of your child, maybe you don't deserve to be that child's parent. UGH

[Razi]

I want to stab their ovaries.

[PoorManQ45]

Car companies have been implementing sensors for years with the front passenger air bag. If a child, or no one, if in the front seat the air bag is either deactivated or set to a slower speed. Doesn't seem to be an issue with you guys...

One thing I don't understand is how the sensors would help a child in a car seat...

[Dattebayo]

One thing I don't understand is how the sensors would help a child in a car seat...

The proper way to put a car seat in the front seat is to face backwards. Air bags are so forceful that they can kill children. Many ignorant parents don't know this.

[Mr1der]

everyone should carry something on them that's capable of breaking auto glass.

I have a knife in my pocket with the handle pointed enough I could probably bust a window if I slammed it home.

[Dattebayo]

But those hammer things they sell are easy to break glass, also have a seatbelt cutter with a dummy protector for idiots that don't know how to handle knives.

[PoorManQ45]

One thing I don't understand is how the sensors would help a child in a car seat...

The proper way to put a car seat in the front seat is to face backwards. Air bags are so forceful that they can kill children. Many ignorant parents don't know this.

I meant the suggested legislation. Sorry I did not separate my thoughts.

[AZhitman]

everyone should carry something on them that's capable of breaking auto glass.

I have a knife in my pocket with the handle pointed enough I could probably bust a window if I slammed it home.

Spark plug works well, too.

I broke a window on a mid-80's Sedan de'Ville (it was new, and I was still in HS, so probably in 1988). Lady was a customer at the store I worked at, I was getting off shift, her poodle was in the Caddy, windows up, 110+ degrees out. I went in and paged the owner, gave her 5 minutes to respond, called the police.

2 good kicks and it was done.... Didn't break the glass, it snapped the glass out of the frame and into the interior (F'd the door up royally). Scooped up the dog, took her inside and tried to get her to drink water. Police showed up and they said the dog was in bad shape... Lady sees the cop at her car taking down the info, comes back in the store and FREAKS the F out, screaming at me.

I told her she was a dumbass. She may have gotten arrested. I left.

She's lucky it wasn't a kid. I hate poodles.

[ADDirishboy]

But those hammer things they sell are easy to break glass, also have a seatbelt cutter with a dummy protector for idiots that don't know how to handle knives.

Go hop in your car, get T-boned by an SUV, and roll a few times. Then let's see you grab a knife without a "dummy protector for idiots" and see if you cut yourself while you try to cut your seatbelt off.


















Oh wait, nevermind. You don't have a car.

[PoorManQ45]

Oh wait, nevermind. You don't have a car.

[IBCoupe]

I don't see the problem with requiring automakers to install a child protection system like that. Do what we did with seatbelts - don't tell them exactly what technology to use, just tell them they need to install an active-restraint. When they've figured out the best method, mandate those. I think that was an ingenious way to get the market to come up with a good technology, and we protected them later for it. People sued Honda (probably others, too) for not installing seatbelts before they were mandated, even though Honda was aware of the benefits. They didn't win, because the U.S. government specifically chose to allow them not to install seatbelts in order to allow them to develop other, possibly better systems.

A lot of people seem to be of the mind that we shouldn't do this because bad parents deserve to have their children die. As if the child is a spider plant.

[Crazyirish]

A lot of people seem to be of the mind that we shouldn't do this because bad parents deserve to have their children die. As if the child is a spider plant.

Ever heard of natural selection?

[IBCoupe]

Yes. Was that an argument?

[Dattebayo]

Ever heard of natural selection?

When was the last time you were hunted?

[dusred]

I don't see the problem with requiring automakers to install a child protection system like that.

That's cause you're a libtard.

Car companies have been implementing sensors for years with the front passenger air bag. If a child, or no one, if in the front seat the air bag is either deactivated or set to a slower speed. Doesn't seem to be an issue with you guys...

It's obvious that you shouldn't leave your child in a hot car unattended. It's not obvious that an Air-Bag can kill your child. Since Bex actually has children I think I'll side with her on this issue.

[Encryptshun]

If a tree falls in the woods, does it still make a sound?

If all cars have tinted windows, does anyone see the dead kid?

I say require tinted windows. Looks better, cheaper to implement, and less factory retooling needed.

[AppleBonker]

Chad, I love you.

[Crazyirish]

Yes. Was that an argument?

It was a question.

When was the last time you were hunted?

I'm not sure what the relevance of your question is.

Do some people really think we should live inside our mandated government safety bubbles, waiting for a smile and a pat on the head from some authority figure letting you know everything is ok? I'll make my own way in the world thank you very much. My mistakes will my own fault and my own responsibility to pay for. And on the other side of the coin, my successes will also be my own.

[IBCoupe]

You know, that's the kind of attitude that Greg enjoys, and that I commend for its consistency (when it's consistent, of course).

But I'm just not okay with children dying in cars. And, given what Greg did for a poodle, I'm not sure he'd take social darwinism to that same extreme, either.

I think, and I don't want to speak for Greg, that the distinction between that and other positions that allow people to off themselves is that we're not talking about adults being trapped in their own cars. We're talking about adults leaving children trapped in cars.

I remember, as a 14-year-old, I decided to sit in a car while my mother ran into the pharmacy. It was a 90-degree day, and she must have been stuck in line. I went to get out of the car, which locked after a short while after my mother left, and when I tried open the door from the inside (pulling on the handle usually unlocked the door), it re-locked itself and set off the car alarm, though every window in the car was still intact. Maybe it's as simple as requiring automakers to not create anti-theft systems that work this way.

[dusred]

But I'm just not okay with children dying in cars.

I have to disagree. I rejoice every time I see a child die in a car. That is why I oppose this thing. I love seeing children die. In fact a few minutes ago I had to run for a beer because a local child was killed in this AZ heat. Are you a moron? Nobody likes to see children die in cars but Gov't regulation isn't the answer.

I say require tinted windows. Looks better, cheaper to implement, and less factory retooling needed.

[tiger-SE-R]

Was I just overprotective as a Mom? Because I can not fathom ever getting out of my car without my child. It makes me sick to me stomach.

I chalk it up to how you were raised. I feel the same, I would never ever leave a child or pet in the car.


The quality of most families ideals has gone right down the crapper. Many parents including their children have no respect for anything, be it people, property, whatever. They just don't care.

[Crazyirish]

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If thats Greg's attitude then he's ahead of the game. I'm not a fan of children dying in cars either, but how idiot proof do we really need to make life? And what causes us to draw that line? Is it just the available technology? That seems like a horrible yardstick to me.

I have another suggestion for keeping babies from dying inside hot cars. Lets talk about the ones that have already died this year. Know someone with a kid? Bring it up. Print some stickers/flyers with the statistic and put them on people's cars. Start a no-more dead babies in cars webring. Send out email bombs. Ring on peoples doorbells if you feel that strongly. But please, do not add one more moron inspired safety feature to the world. If for no other reason then this: We should be holding ourselves to higher standard.