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But moron-oriented safety features are more cost-efficient, especially to me.

I'm not advocating for an idiot-proof life. I've actually advocated for a form of "legal darwinism" in my law classes - have the criminal justice system get out of the way of people doing things stupid enough to get themselves killed.

But, again, it's not about people hurting themselves - it's about people hurting children. You want to go ahead and rely on the hope that doing things will result in fewer deaths? Sure, do what you want. I'll even support you. But I won't stop there because, in my view, it's worth it to avoid the innocent deaths altogether.


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IBCoupe wrote:But moron-oriented safety features are more cost-efficient, especially to me.
I don't see the problem with requiring automakers to install a child protection system like that.
Do what we did with seatbelts - don't tell them exactly what technology to use, just tell them they need to install an active-restraint. When they've figured out the best method, mandate those.
IBCoupe wrote: I'm not advocating for an idiot-proof life.
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Dusred, I can't tell if you've linked to a photo; Websense has blocked it for me.

And, ya rly.

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Not sure which way I wanna go on this one.

I DO know that there needs to be harsher sentencing for the "forgetful" parent.

"Awww, but everyone makes mistakes."

Yeah - And when it costs a kid their life, it's called manslaughter. No different than looking away from the road, running up on the sidewalk and crushing little Susie as she skips home from school.

STFU and get in the cell.

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AZhitman wrote: "Awww, but everyone makes mistakes."
Leaving a child in a hot car unattended is neglect and inexcusable. Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTm_D2gL0o

There was a case here a few years ago where there was a community holiday and a parent let her 5 year old son go with some of his friends to get an ice cream. The child was with his friends for a short time and decided to go to the car for something and ended up locking himself in. There was a 14 y/o boy with the group of little guys who thought that the child's parents had came and got him. The windows were tinted and nobody could see him and he died of heat exhaustion in the 105 degree AZ sun. It was decided by the authorities not to charge the parents of the child because they didn't neglect the child. IMO that's one of of those cases where a small mistake was made but not worthy of charges or having other children removed for neglect.

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Id say a majority of this isnt "forgetful mothers". With the economy still not all that great, unemployment and people without homes being way way up. Id say theres alot more of these that were intentional then accidental. Its a easy way to get out of having a kid and not get in trouble. Have any of them got in any real trouble??? All the ones i saw were making it on the Today show and getting publicity.

I would never forget my kid! If u cant manage a child, dont have them.

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Mad Hatter wrote:Id say theres alot more of these that were intentional then accidental.

If that's the case lets just call it late term abortion and make it legal.

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i had a thought one day thats always stuck with me concerning these situations.........birth control in the water, apply to have children. could solve a lot of issues; as controversial as it is, id argue for it.

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I don't think I'd want my kids drinking water spiked with birth control.

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Razi wrote:I don't think I'd want my kids drinking water spiked with birth control.
oh im not saying theres a way to do it now. but im sure a "drug" could be developed to temporarily sterelize men or women until you pass a test.

DISCLAIMER!......this is just a theory, i dont think it could ever be accomplished, just a "what if we could" sorta thought.

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srpowered240sx wrote:i had a thought one day thats always stuck with me concerning these situations.........birth control in the water, apply to have children. could solve a lot of issues; as controversial as it is, id argue for it.
Wow. You're a moron. :squint:

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we could always take up China's policy!

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dusred wrote:
srpowered240sx wrote:i had a thought one day thats always stuck with me concerning these situations.........birth control in the water, apply to have children. could solve a lot of issues; as controversial as it is, id argue for it.
Wow. You're a moron. :squint:
nah, just fed up with ignorant parents making ignorant children.

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dusred wrote:
srpowered240sx wrote:i had a thought one day thats always stuck with me concerning these situations.........birth control in the water, apply to have children. could solve a lot of issues; as controversial as it is, id argue for it.
Wow. You're a moron. :squint:
Resurrecting this because of your comment. Why is the notion that being a parent is a privilege rather than a right moronic? Not saying that some application process is feasible, but I'm not sure which part of the idea you reacted so strongly to.

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people who "forget" their kids and dogs in the car make me want to puke. how the hell do you forget? when i see it happening i try to make the time to see if the owner comes back so I can yell at them. I've never seen a child left behind, but a dog plenty of times. idiots.

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Encryptshun wrote:
dusred wrote:
Wow. You're a moron. :squint:
Resurrecting this because of your comment. Why is the notion that being a parent is a privilege rather than a right moronic? Not saying that some application process is feasible, but I'm not sure which part of the idea you reacted so strongly to.
Having children is a right, not a privilege.

Can you imagine the implications of putting birth control in water? Seriously. Once the government is powerful enough to to that where will it stop? Imagine the assclowns (sorry Greg, I had to borrow it) in Washington deciding when you can have children. I have zero trust in our government and won't have them deciding when I want to have kids. I'll admit that children being neglected is a huge problem and it should be dealt with but as I said earlier Big Brother's intervention isn't the answer. The vast majority of parents take good care of their children so why punish them because some idiot was neglectful?

Now I'm willing to compromise. Lets say if a parent is found to be an unfit parent by a jury or a qualified committee maybe we could "fix" that parent. But even then that could be seriously abused by politicians with an agenda.


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