s2000 drift?

[ESPER]

is there a reason as to why i dont hear about the s2000 drifted much?

[cosmo]

narrow powerband and high intitial cost

[dareo]

A guy around here drifts his S2000 a lot, he's got some primered body panels to prove it.

[ESPER]

good point thanks!!

[MainEvent212]

narrow powerband? i thought they were great because they had such a high redline...i donno i've seen a S2000 drifted beautifully...i'd chalk it up to, because of the convertable, it has less then optimal chassis rigidity...i dont know for sure though

[K240]

The s2000 has a high redline sure and that is where all the power is, but it would be pretty hard to get the rpms up to keep the wheels spinning when in a drift if it does not have enough low-end torque.. The s2000's torque is 162. I am sure that the s2000 has enough torque to get the wheels spinning correct me if im wrong. Also im sure that if you didnt have enough torque the 240 horsepower will help. =]. So to answer your question, ESPER i think that the S2000 is very capable of Drifting.The only people i see driving S2000's are mid aged men. If your Middle-aged you probably wont want to drift. IMO Correct me if im wrong.

[dareo]

the faster you go the less torque and power you will need to drift, but the faster you go the more balls you need to actually do it. It all depends on the drift technique you want to do, drifting isnt only about forcing the rear wheels to spin with your powerful engine.

[MainEvent212]

yeah, it's about having the balls to do what your body and mind have been trained to think will cause certain death, over...and over...and over till you get the technique down lol

i know everything that I'VE been taught tells me, when i break traction on all 4 corners at 70mph, i'm probably gonna die.

[dareo]

Ok, my car is going to slide while im going really fast and its still going to stay with the curve of the road. Here we go....

[driftkaztik]

I think the price of a car is a big issue. I'm pretty sure there are s2k drifters, but just sometimes you need to know when not to messup your car.

[The Mic]

thats why old school s13's ae86s are considered ideal drift cars. I wouldn't feel as bad about running one into the side of a mountain as if i were to run an FD in the side of the mountain.

[driftkaztik]

I personally wouldnt drift a brand new car, or an expensive car. I'd mess around, but never take it seriously. why, kuz i love my 240.

[D1SR240]

i have a movie on kazaa of a s2000 drifting, and i think the guy drifiting it is Keiiuchi Tsuchya (sp?)

[Onizuka]

i have seen S2K's, 350Z's, camaros, bimmers Etc getting sideways at D.O.W. here on the east coast. If it has 4 wheels and a driver with balls it can and will be drifted.

[cosmo]

i have a movie on kazaa of a s2000 drifting, and i think the guy drifiting it is Keiiuchi Tsuchya (sp?)

Keiichi TsuchiyaDorikin (Drift King)same

I just say Tsuchiya-san

makes me feel all spiffy inside

[D1SR240]

ya Keiichi Tsuchiya is awesome, i seen his "Drift Bible" video that was awesome.

[Camel]

If your Middle-aged you probably wont want to drift. IMO Correct me if im wrong.

Consider yourself corrected K240.

[KoukiS14]

S2000 is a mid-engine car, and can't handle as well as a car with FR configuration. . (I should say, it can't handle holding a slide for prolonged periods of time)

[Mr1der]

where do you get it's a mid engine car? It's seated closer to the front end rather then behind the front wheels

anyone ever see the Honda commercial with Micheal Andretti (I think, it's been awhile since I've seen it) showing a guy how to drive.

it involved all kinds of drifting in the suburbs:D

[KoukiS14]

where do you get it's a mid engine car? It's seated closer to the front end rather then behind the front wheels

anyone ever see the Honda commercial with Micheal Andretti (I think, it's been awhile since I've seen it) showing a guy how to drive.

it involved all kinds of drifting in the suburbs:D

You answered it... the engine is behind the front wheels. . it's entirely behind the front axle, as a matter of fact.The 350z is ALSO considered mid engined. . it can be disputed, however. . it is. Would you call an MR-2 a rear engine car? Would you call a Porsche 911 a mid engine?

(Nissan considers the 350z mid engined)

[Hijacker]

where do you get it's a mid engine car? It's seated closer to the front end rather then behind the front wheels

anyone ever see the Honda commercial with Micheal Andretti (I think, it's been awhile since I've seen it) showing a guy how to drive.

it involved all kinds of drifting in the suburbs:D

i love that commercial!

anyways, one reason why the S2K has such a narrow powerband is because peak torque is achieved around 8 grand on the tach. the '04 S2K's lowered the peak torque curve to around 7 or so.

it's very hard to get a car running that high on the RPM band while wrapping around corners. any higher and the rear end will see too much torque (and the car will redline as well) and swing all the way around.

you want a lower peak torque (between 5 and 6 grand) to obtain optimal drift.

[Mr1der]

You answered it... the engine is behind the front wheels. . it's entirely behind the front axle, as a matter of fact.The 350z is ALSO considered mid engined. . it can be disputed, however. . it is. Would you call an MR-2 a rear engine car? Would you call a Porsche 911 a mid engine?

(Nissan considers the 350z mid engined)

upon thinking more about it (I haven't seen under the hood of one in a while..) it is behind the front axles, similar to the RX-7 which is considered FR and a good drift car, god this gives me a headache...

[KoukiS14]

upon thinking more about it (I haven't seen under the hood of one in a while..) it is behind the front axles, similar to the RX-7 which is considered FR and a good drift car, god this gives me a headache...

hahaha doesn't it tho? lolI'm mostly playing devil's advocate. . because I call the 350z AND the S2000 front / rear. . hahaha

but technically, even the RX-7 is MR. However. . Nissan actually CLAIMS the 350 as MR. Honda, I'm not sure about. . . but it's definately mid.. and yeah. . the RX-7 is VERY far behind the axles, almost in the driver's lap.

confusing isn't it? lol

edit: I think having an MR config in the RX 7, and still being able to drift, is due in large part to the almost nonexistent weight of that car's engine. To make it more extreme, imagine that engine in a rear engine layout. . it'd diminish the oversteer considerably, I'd think.

[Mr1der]

hell, the almost non existent weight of the car really...

but yeah, with the engine planted in the back, I'm sure it'd be way harder to push the rear end out. I don't think loading the front end and getting understeer would be any concern though.

[Onizuka]

i wouldnt say its harder to get the rear out on a rear engine car, just much more touchy when you have alot of momentum building in the back of the car as opposed to being able to swing around the weight at the front of the car.

To me if the motor is in front of you and the drive wheels in back, its F RMoter behind you M R

[180fan]

I'm with J-Spec on that. my book calls the mr2 a MR, the 350z FR ditto with the rotaries although yeah it's right up on the firewall... but still, it's engine has the bulk of it located up front.

[KoukiS14]

i wouldnt say its harder to get the rear out on a rear engine car, just much more touchy when you have alot of momentum building in the back of the car as opposed to being able to swing around the weight at the front of the car.

To me if the motor is in front of you and the drive wheels in back, its F RMoter behind you M R

I understand. . but in a Porsche 911, the motor is behind you. Does that make it MR?

Makes sense that if the engine is largely in front of front axle, it's FR. . and if the engine is in between the two axles, in the middle, it's MR, and if it's in the back, it's RR.

But I still have a tendency to call everything with the engine in front of the drive a FR, as well. . But then I exercise the double standard of calling some cars a MR, and some a RR. confusing haha

[Mr1der]

yeah, with a techical (well, I guess it'd be more like common) midengine car, the motor sits behind you in front of the rear axles.

ah the wonderful world of weight balance...

[KoukiS14]

I wouldn't mind owning a (normal) MR configured car. . I only drove an MR2 once. . (current model). . and it was a LOT of fun, but unfortunately I didn't really do much with it, and it was raining. . but what I can tell you. . it SOUNDS cool to hear the engine behind you, and it has plenty of grip in the wet on take off.

but I slid it around a corner, and it was nearly impossible to regain control of it haha

[cosmo]

actually, Nissan calls it the FM platform. As in Front-Midship. Therefore, the 350, RX, all those are classified front-mid engine.