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obviously the car never reached usdm production, but is it prohibited in the U.S. like the skyline? I've never heard of anyone shipping them overseas.


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Located In Tennessee. I know the owner.


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mean! thats one shiny turbo. a DD?

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not a dd but it is registered and is street legal.

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as far as I know they can be state legal and insured but federally illegal. I'm pretty sure that when homeland security said no more skylines that they included all Silvia's too. I could be completely wrong though.

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s13-t wrote:as far as I know they can be state legal and insured but federally illegal. I'm pretty sure that when homeland security said no more skylines that they included all Silvia's too. I could be completely wrong though.
I know for sure that all of the Motorex cars are being impounded and crushed.

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s13-t wrote:I could be completely wrong though.

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ILoveMyRHS13 wrote:I know for sure that all of the Motorex cars are being impounded and crushed.
they are. because they Motorex said that they had done the "legalization" to the cars but they actually didnt do anything.

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xX RB Xx wrote:
they are. because they Motorex said that they had done the "legalization" to the cars but they actually didnt do anything.
I thought they got the r33's approved since that's what they had the crash testing and such done on. If they didn't do something to all the r33's they sold one would think the owner would get some sort of fix it ticket.

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I thought they got the r33's approved since that's what they had the crash testing and such done on. If they didn't do something to all the r33's they sold one would think the owner would get some sort of fix it ticket.
they were suppose to crash test all year skylines, and they did at first but then realized they were wasting too much money on wrecking perfectly good cars.

and i forget the exact reason why R33 are determinded legal. here is the website to the NHTSA.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/....html

Quote »Import eligibility decisions are made on a make, model, and model year basis. NHTSA has determined that the R33 Model Nissan GTS and GTR ("Skyline") passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 are eligible for importation and has assigned vehicle eligibility number VCP-32 to those vehicles.[/quote]

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wait really? r33s between 96 and 98 are federally legal to own in the u.s.?

and here i am waiting til 2014 to import a 1989 r32 lol

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To bad it's generally considered to be the worst Skyline ever made.

I suppose its understeer issues could be tuned out with some work but I don't know what it would take.

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so...is the S15 legal or if not is there a way to make it federally legit?

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Shusaka wrote:so...is the S15 legal or if not is there a way to make it federally legit?
As far as I know, there is no way to make an S15 federally 50 state legal.

Obviously, there are a few people in the states with S15's, But I would be willing to bet that most(or all) of them are state legal, and not federally legal.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert when it comes to vehicles not offered/sold in the U.S.

It just seems to me as if they were 50 state federally legal, there would be more of them on the roads...

EDIT: Also, I was under the impression that all, if not most, Motorex cars were grandfathered in. As in even if they didn't have the propper safety modifications, they were still allowed because the government originally gave them the OK prior to finding out all the loopholes.

somebody correct me if I'm wrong, as it's been a while since I've looked into the situation...
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that S15 is bad A$$!!!!! I will buy a s15 right now but I want to wait for the S16 I will give ot 2 more years to see what happens with it if not I might buy a s15.

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Its a gray market vehicle. Certain states such as Florida are "clumbsy" and make it easier to get a US title for a JDM vehicle under 25 years of age.

Once a title is obtained you can treat it as a normal vehicle, but since the VIN is not 17 digets, but 10 you run the risk of it being noticed. Its a gamble, will you get a title, will the title flip to another state, will customs seize the vehicle?

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So basicly dont't buy a S15??? I am in Puerto Rico, USA and I know that a R34 is here and is Federal Legal so I know it cost a lot and changes like windshield front bumper, etc...

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I saw a blue one here on the highway and it was very sweet to see they driver on the right side. I thought it was a converted 240 at first then as it passed me i saw the tails and the driver. I whipped out the cell to take pics and got a couple but they are crappy!!!

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OP stop wasting you're time. You more than likely do not have the money or else you would be smart enough to search a topic like this, and then you would find out what needs to be done and what is legal and what is not. Continue living your fantasy

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duffman1278 wrote:OP stop wasting you're time. You more than likely do not have the money or else you would be smart enough to search a topic like this, and then you would find out what needs to be done and what is legal and what is not. Continue living your fantasy
spoken like a true zilvian e-thug.nice try, though. I just wanted to know if they were legal, I don't have any interest in buying now (nor would I ever).

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Then why ask? This question has been asked before.

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fess13 wrote:
spoken like a true zilvian e-thug.nice try, though. I just wanted to know if they were legal, I don't have any interest in buying now (nor would I ever).
duffman1278 wrote:Then why ask? This question has been asked before.
fess13 wrote:I just wanted to know if they were legal

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Do I need to quote what I already said also, for some reason you don't understand.

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you came in acting like an ***hole after every topic in the thread had already been discussed. if you wanted to look like a coolguy playing the "search" card, you should have made the 1st reply. nobody else had a problem with this topic being discussed.

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Eh, f*** the haters dude. A question is a question. Not to mention it turned into a good discussion.

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S15 are illegal in US, period. Just because you can get one registered, it does not mean it is legal. Its like stealing is illegal, but if you do not get caught, you will not be in trouble.

The R34 can be Federal Legal, but it is supposedly only driven for 2500miles a year, because it is legal as a show car.

This has been covered more than enough , over and over again so just stop asking.

And this is not turning into a good discussion, as it has too much false information.

The US government cannot crush all the Motorex cars because some of them are did actually received all the work needed to make them federal legal.

And you can still legalize a R33 GTR and GTS by Registered Importer.

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jessetang wrote:S15 are illegal in US, period. Just because you can get one registered, it does not mean it is legal. Its like stealing is illegal, but if you do not get caught, you will not be in trouble.

The R34 can be Federal Legal, but it is supposedly only driven for 2500miles a year, because it is legal as a show car.

This has been covered more than enough , over and over again so just stop asking.

And this is not turning into a good discussion, as it has too much false information.

The US government cannot crush all the Motorex cars because some of them are did actually received all the work needed to make them federal legal.

And you can still legalize a R33 GTR and GTS by Registered Importer.
what false information is in the thread that hasn't been corrected?isn't that what a discussion is about? learning?read through the thread again and you'll see I'm not the only one that had questions about legalizing an S15.

also try doing some research yourself before you spread misinformation.
wrote:"In determining whether a vehicle is eligible for importation for show or display, NHTSA will consider the following factors, among others:

-Whether a vehicle of the same make, model, and model year was manufactured and certified for sale in the United States.-Whether a vehicle of the same make, model, and model year has been determined eligible for importation pursuant to 49 CFR Part 593.-Whether the vehicle is currently in production.-Whether more than 500 of the vehicles were produced.-Whether the vehicle is a kit car, replica, or special construction vehicle.

If the answer to any of the above is affirmative, you should not expect NHTSA to grant permission for importation. If the answer to item 4 is affirmative, the applicant must establish that the vehicle is of exceptional technological and/or historical significance.

-Technological significance - You must identify (be specific) the technology, engineering, and construction features of the vehicle that are advanced and of an unusual nature not commonly found in motor vehicles manufactured in the same time period;

-Historical significance - You must identify the historical significance of the vehicle. If a person of historical significance owned the vehicle, you must submit proof that this person owned the vehicle. If the vehicle was the first or last vehicle of a particular model, you must establish this through the manufacturer's documentation or, if this is not available, through a recognized historical source. If the vehicle was "one of a kind," you must establish this also.
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Even though I actually point out some of the false information without your notice, I will point out some more:
xX RB Xx wrote:not a dd but it is registered and is street legal.
False. Again, registered does not mean it is street legal. It only means the lady in DMV knows nothing about the car that is being registered.
s13-t wrote:as far as I know they can be state legal and insured but federally illegal. I'm pretty sure that when homeland security said no more skylines that they included all Silvia's too. I could be completely wrong though.
Insurance on a car has nothing to do with how legal a car is. It cannot be state legal but federal legal. If you go to school, you cannot really have a law in a state that violate a federal law, although it actually happens.
ILoveMyRHS13 wrote:I know for sure that all of the Motorex cars are being impounded and crushed.
I pointed this out already.
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I thought they got the r33's approved since that's what they had the crash testing and such done on. If they didn't do something to all the r33's they sold one would think the owner would get some sort of fix it ticket.
Same above.
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they were suppose to crash test all year skylines, and they did at first but then realized they were wasting too much money on wrecking perfectly good cars.

and i forget the exact reason why R33 are determinded legal. here is the website to the NHTSA.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/....html
They were supposed to crash test all the Skylines so that all of them could be federal legal. However, at the minimum, you cannot legalize a R32, as it has no airbag.

There is a page that you can look up on how to import a non-USDM cars. You will be more educated reading this that having a what you call a good discussion here. How good can a discussion be if you do not get some answers out of it?

http://204.68.195.151/cars/rules/import/

P.S. Whatever you pointed out, I read it already. There is a list of cars on the link I provided that a R34 GTR is permitted to be a show car in the US already. Yes, I read every document on that page.


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xX RB Xx wrote:Located In Tennessee. I know the owner.
i've always thought he could keep it because he resides in a "reservation" and is allowed to register it?

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fess13 wrote:you came in acting like an ***hole after every topic in the thread had already been discussed. if you wanted to look like a coolguy playing the "search" card, you should have made the 1st reply. nobody else had a problem with this topic being discussed.
dont worry it seems like no matter what someone posts when duffman1278 responds to things its almost always negative. if he does not approve then its wrong all the way. im used to reading his negative postings like he will respond negative to this one as well. watch for it lol


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