S13 vs FC3S

[ray666]

soz i meant non seq. they both run at the same time. we were in to deep we couldn't afford to convert to single. the labor was alot. i thought my dad got ripped off. cuz about half the total was labor. he bought the car for 10k which was a good deal thinking their was nothing wrong. the total so far is about 20k so far... i'll try to get you guys some pics.

[White Comet]

pics would be good. i'm not surprised labor was that much. most of the time only rotary specialists will touch them so the cost is more. thats why i do everything myself

[pj]

yeah pics would be cool...i have a real softspot in my heart for 7's

[zeause]

Ive been pricing rebuilds and thats kinda making me want another piston motor.

[rbforsale]

ive had an fc before,i bought it for 600 bucks not knowing anything bout em.2 days later the engine blew due to a bad coolant seal...the first thing to go bad.got the engine apart to find out it had over heated and expanded thecoolant galeys.so the irons where trashed. a rotary is like a giant sandwhich when its together.if you want a "reliable" rotary.dont by a turbo one.rotarys arent boost freindly on stock 3 peice apex seals.so if you do gowankel.get new housings,new irons,and invest in all the heavy duty seals which should run you bout 1800 for just the seals, and another 3 grand for the "long block".if you build them right and stick to the trick of the trades like premixing"oil in the gas" and warming it up to operating temps before you even drive it. it will actually last a while. it was designed to burn oil as a natural part of the ignition cycle. so if it starts smoking in the morning, dont worry. when a rotary goes bad youll know it cause it will sound identical to a husqvarna leaf blower, and smoke as if your heating the tires on one of jhon forces drag cars.but, on a lighter note,you will kick yourself in the head at how easy it is to rebuild one, and how easy it is to get out the car....they made it east cause they know you were going to have to do it ALOT!

[AZ89two4Tsx]

I would absolutely have an FC over my sil40 if they had a backseat.

Sole reason I got an s13 over one.

[rbforsale]

thats weird?? mine had back seats.

[zeause]

Yeah they make 2+2s. But the parts are so f***ing expensive....

[White Comet]

yeah they def had back seats as an option, just not a common one. i had back seats but i sold em for like $200.

that s4 looks beat, and i just don't think i could rock an s4

[zeause]

Id drive the s*** outta a s4 or s5 turbo II but after pricing parts and talking to people its hella cheaper to build and drive a 240.

[White Comet]

my fc was more enjoyable to drive then my s13. price on parts isnt bad, its labor that gets you so i do it myself. my fc was na and faster then an s13, better looking, etc. its just an all around better car and its such a black to drive a rotary powered car

[noobdrftr]

i would get it...its turbo from the factory, its 5 lug, sexy as hell. Yea parts maybe a little more than an S13 but who cares. Do it and do it now.

[KC240SR]

my fc was more enjoyable to drive then my s13. price on parts isnt bad, its labor that gets you so i do it myself. my fc was na and faster then an s13, better looking, etc. its just an all around better car and its such a black to drive a rotary powered car

Can you explain to me what "such a black" means?

[White Comet]

lol i'm retarded. should have read "such a blast to drive"

[hbpignosePA]

lulz

idk id rather have the first gen than an FC

its more classy

but the FC offers alot of benefits for a stock car (alum DS) etc

[White Comet]

lulz

idk id rather have the first gen than an FC

its more classic

fixed. i wouldn't say the fb/sa is classy, if you want class and elegance, series 7 spirit R silver with red leather

[240tunerguy]

rx7s are bad a** sound bad a** are all around bad a**. i would rather have one over my s13. thats my .02

[pj]

^^^agreed...i think my s13 hates me anyway

[darkvillin]

it wont be my main transportation but i will be driving it a lot. Heres the craigslist adds for them. The problem with finding something better is im unemployed and only have bout 2500 to spend.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/d....html

http://littlerock.craigslist.o....html

im in conway arkansas, anything you need at all, i can help u with. i love 240's also as ive had three now, but my friend had an fc3s with a motor that had 17,000 miles on it and that car sounded awesome, burned a small amount of oil, and was an all around blast. i agree that people give them more of a bad rap than they deserve. the cars weight dist is spot on. i say between those two, id consider seriously the rx7. with that amount of mileage tho, just keep a keen eye open for anything and see if they have good documentation that they kept the car in good shape. im no car god, im just adding my $.02 because i have a decent amount of knowledge workin on both. parts for an fc are almost as expensive as and s14 lol. i say just jump on it.

good luck and hit me back if u need/want any help at all.

[White Comet]

are you sure it burned oil?

[zeause]

im in conway arkansas, anything you need at all, i can help u with. i love 240's also as ive had three now, but my friend had an fc3s with a motor that had 17,000 miles on it and that car sounded awesome, burned a small amount of oil, and was an all around blast. i agree that people give them more of a bad rap than they deserve. the cars weight dist is spot on. i say between those two, id consider seriously the rx7. with that amount of mileage tho, just keep a keen eye open for anything and see if they have good documentation that they kept the car in good shape. im no car god, im just adding my $.02 because i have a decent amount of knowledge workin on both. parts for an fc are almost as expensive as and s14 lol. i say just jump on it.

good luck and hit me back if u need/want any help at all.

Hey man i appreciate it. From what i understand theyre like 2 strokes and are designed to burn oil. I think they even have oil droppers inside the combustion chamber or something like that. But I want something i can afford to beat on and just jumping into the rx7 and doing that sounds expensive. But you ever been to branson z fest? You should check it out, we went this year and were guna go back next year.

[darkvillin]

the motor was installed new at a mazda dealership in nj where im from. he bought the car from an old man and it had 17,000 miles on it when he got it. all of this was documented with receipts. it did burn a small amount of oil. especially when it was cold (engine temp wise). apex seals are a crazy thing, if they are not in good shape, the motor wont be either. i guess its not easy to explain the oil thing. it wasnt a plume of black smoke comin out the exhaust but it was something you could smell. kinda like a lot cleaner 2 stroke lol. he had 2 crotch rocket exhausts on the back and no cats so it was loud and prob made the oil thing more evident than it should have been. like someone else previously said, they arent harder to work on, just different. i say, if ur pretty mechanically inclined, and not afraid to do any needed work, buy the car and do the work ur self when it needs it. otherwise, stick with the s13 because they are cheap.

[White Comet]

i have a theory on the "burnt oil". rotaries use oil as per factory design. they have an oil metering pump and injector a small amount of oil into the engine to lubricate the apex seals. normal consumption is 1 qt every 1-3 months depending on how you drive it. the smell is most likely just the fact that fc's run pig rich from the factory

[zeause]

Ive built piston engines but never a rotary. That s*** just amazes me.

[darkvillin]

i have a theory on the "burnt oil". rotaries use oil as per factory design. they have an oil metering pump and injector a small amount of oil into the engine to lubricate the apex seals. normal consumption is 1 qt every 1-3 months depending on how you drive it. the smell is most likely just the fact that fc's run pig rich from the factory

sounds good to me brother. this kid beat the snot out of his rotory because "someone told him they dont like to be babied" and i dont even think it burned a qt. again, im no car god, but to me id rather it burn some oil than have the apex seals go bad and not have any more compression.

i like your theory sir...

just wanted to add, if u think about it, the oil for the apex seals is just like the "normal" oil squirters in any car thats used to lube the pistons in the cylinders and the piston rings. essentially they all to the same job, so to me its the same difference.
Modified by darkvillin at 10:30 PM 9/25/2009

[White Comet]

thats a good way of looking at it. and even though he beats it, less then 1qt isnt abnormal on a fresh motor. it isnt that they like abuse, its that they like the high rpm range. you don't have to redline it but it'll bog at like 3k where a normal car won't. daily driving, i shifted at right around 5k or a little less.

as for the oil metering pump, on the s5 its electronic and its not uncommon for it fail at some point in its life. if this happens and you're unaware, the seals won't get oil and the motor will seize. this is why lots of ppl remove the omp and premix

[pj]

lol you say it people listen, i say it and its not even read. go figure.

[mrgrape]

sheet, i was actually thinking the samething as u but instead of older modelss14 vs 93 rx7...........i have a kouki and though many chicks stop and awe....its stock a** KA is GAYYYYY and since i cant risk SR in socal..... i have a fast looking clean car but is slow as f***!!!

anyways theres this car im thinking about.... i LOVE 90s japanese cars...and though many people switch over to 350z and g35...i will never!!!always 90s for me lol

anyways this is one of the cars ive always wanted to drive....but dont know much about rx7s at all...if people have more info def let me knowsorry to steal ur thread, but its pretty much same thing.