S13 rb25det Drag setup!

[rb25drag]

[QUOTE=smelly240]guessing at 400HP on a turbo that CANNOT SUPPORT over a low 300 crank* HP, no matter your motor is, is just dumb. The amount of power you can make is definatly limited by the size of the turbocharger and the craptastic stock exh manifold on a RB25...

If you want 700HP get a turbo that will make that - like a GT4088R... You know absolutely nothing if you think you'll get 700HP out of smaller.

An AFC isnt a proper device for tuning a car... making small adjustments - maybe.

The other thing is - if you have a RB25 there are very few people that can work with the stock ecu - best1tuning.com can...

haltech will be an option you'll want to look at.

If you get a computer and fuel - and a better turbo, then you can make more power - but you dont make over low 300s now.[/QU

Guess you still havent read my post Like I said earlier.. The old stuff is out the door. including turbo manifold intake fuel injectors and ECU.

Thats the whole point in the thread is to find out a good combination to my application.

New stuff is going to include Greddy intake, 800+CC injectors, Power FC commander ECU, turbo???? Still dont know, Manifold??? Dont know what combo im going with there, Auto conversion transmission, 4500 stall, aluminum drive shaft, 1000HP axles, Megan racing Coilovers, Sway bars, Megan traction bars, and last but not least safety 12 point certified roll cage.

So thanks for the turbo suggestion. Thats wat im looking for.

[Fearsome_tea]

Off the subject. Lilskyline240 believe it or not there was a guy that made 389.9whp on stock injectors. I would not believed myself if I had not been there to see it. His set up was a FMIC, stock engine set up with a HKS 2835 BB and I believe he had an FCON. His injector duty cycle was over 100% but from what I was told from some one who knows they stuff said that you can do that with those side feeds.

Oh yea RBdrag loose the ebay speacial Blow off if you expect to hold boost. Greedy type R. FTW

[wawazat8402]

stock RB injectors actually flow about 400-410cc even though we call them 370s. also, bumping the fuel pressure will give you a little more headroom on the injectors.

[eh?]

my stock injectors flow 760cc's/min

[lilskyline240]

Off the subject. Lilskyline240 believe it or not there was a guy that made 389.9whp on stock injectors. I would not believed myself if I had not been there to see it. His set up was a FMIC, stock engine set up with a HKS 2835 BB and I believe he had an FCON. His injector duty cycle was over 100% but from what I was told from some one who knows they stuff said that you can do that with those side feeds.

Oh yea RBdrag loose the ebay speacial Blow off if you expect to hold boost. Greedy type R. FTW

i know its possible by increasing the fuel pressure as i stated. Ill be his idle was **** tho and his injectors didnt last too long

[Darius]

Yes, under the stock FPR settings, you are not going to support 389 hp on 370cc injectors. Of course they are going to flow more if you crank up the pressure, but you also run the risk of your fuel pump not being able to keep up at those higher pressures under boost. It all depends on the pump curve of the fuel pump and voltage you are supplying to it.

[OurOnePassion]

Im taking the car to the dyno as soon as I can get a rear end in it. Then Ill post my numbers.

Im not sure on the turbo. I was needing some suggestions.... I plan on making between 6-750HP. But I dont need a monster turbo thats going to drag me down.

Yeah, my f*****' rear end under it.

The feller that said if your injectors would've been pushing so much pressure it wouldn't idle... maybe that's why the ***** doesn't want to idle sometimes. Ehh?

Oh, though I mean nothing to anyone, I vouch for his setup. Saw just about every part that went into it. And helped with a lot of it, too. And I have to say his setup severely limits what the beast is capable of.

And I though that we thought it was t28?:smokes crack:

[Darius]

What in the hell are you guys talking about? I've never been more lost in a thread before in my life. The story on this car has changed several times. WTF?? Just lock this POS. It is so full of misinformation that it serves no further purpose other than to create a flame war.

[lilskyline240]

I am highly confused to. i thought initially he had a problem that wanted to be solved. now he wants a turbo for 700hp? and who is OurOnePassion? im thinkin rb25 drag with a new name just for some support here

[rustbucket]

What in the hell are you guys talking about? I've never been more lost in a thread before in my life. The story on this car has changed several times. WTF?? Just lock this POS. It is so full of misinformation that it serves no further purpose other than to create a flame war.

+1

[smelly240]

i'm with you guys - this thread is whack.

He said he wanted to look at a hks gt28 on a different thread - wanting like 700HP... He should have been looking at the HKS T51R Kai if he wanted power like that (browsing the hks site anyways).

revamp your approach on this stuff, and read about how turbochargers and their efficiency work. Then, get your story straight and figure what it is that you really want (a 700hp turbo car in the 1/8th is kinda wierd since they usually make up the time on the top end when u see a NA or Nitrous/supercharger car against a similar time turbo car).

The bottom line for you is - i think - you think theres some sort of lagless turbocharger setup you can put together with a small turbo that will still make big power (VGT turbos come to mind but dont get the job done on high HP gas engines - but the tech and R&D is coming along for it soon).

Big turbos make big power, and with big turbos there is big lag. No matter what engine you put a t28 on - it'll never make more power than the amount of air flow it can support. turbine housing size, turbine wheel size, compressor size, manifold design - it all has to be right to make power like that.

[rb25drag]

You guys are all confused because you are not reading all of the content and then your commenting on Stupid crap that doesnt need to be!!!!

Ill sum it all up for you!!!!!!

As I initially asked in the thread is what kind of setup is going to be the best for my drag s13!!! I told you my current setup vs my future setup!! But everyone wanted to comment Crap on the current setup and go the hole thread Whacked!!!I have posted this on multiple forums to get different types of setups because not every one in the world posts on Zilvia & Nico....

Back to My original questions and topic is my goal is to run around 700Hp

I know I need injectors, turbo, and ECU.

As for the turbo I need one that I can make power 650+HP with and not get a huge amount of Lag!!!!!!!!

Ya im working with 1/8 mile because it is the only tracks around me. Eventually when I get the setup to my liking ill travel to 1/4 mile.

I had 2 major questions which was the whole point of the thread and that is a good turbo combo and what you guys thought about the 350 turbo transmission swap?

Maybe this cleared things up for you guys!!!!

Also ouronepassion has put out as many hours and years into helping me with the build than anyone. He knows my setup very well. "One of the few" He also was there when I put the motor back together. So he can personally verify any parts that I put in it.

If anyone Else thinks im B.S ing. about my car. Like I have said Before. I will and can prove anything you want to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilskyline240]

700hp is going to be slower in the 1/8th miles than a 400hp RB. just to let you know. Just like a 600hp and 1200hp supra run the same 1/4 mile times. After 500whp its all about traction, not HP

[rb25drag]

Well my goal is a low 6 to high 5 sec 1/8 and a low 10 to high 9 1/4. Wats the setup?

Traction will be easier to find after I get my motor setup the way I like it.

Besides I have 11.5 inch meats on the back along with a good suspension setup. Im sure I have a long ways to go before I feel those shoes!!!

[smelly240]

so wait - u broke axles without the slicks?

and yes you need fuel, manifold/wastegate(s), ecu and tuning...

i dont get it tho... - your ?s were answered already - there is no such thing as a huge HP turbo with low lag, a 4092R will get you your HP, and you already said on another forum you got a transmission adapter and were gonna run a different transmission.

Now you changed your target HP from 700 to 600 - if thats what you want go with a GT3582R or a Holset HX35/40 with a divided housing, or even an older style ggarrett like a t67.

lastly - i read and reread your posts on multiple forums - and your biggest priority was PROVING that you make 400HP on a stock t28... pull the stick out of ur butt and listen when you're told your car doesnt make 400hp, and people will help you. I've been working with turbocharged cars, specifically for 10 years now and i might know what im talking about.

[OurOnePassion]

so wait - u broke axles without the slicks?

and yes you need fuel, manifold/wastegate(s), ecu and tuning...

i dont get it tho... - your ?s were answered already - there is no such thing as a huge HP turbo with low lag, a 4092R will get you your HP, and you already said on another forum you got a transmission adapter and were gonna run a different transmission.

Now you changed your target HP from 700 to 600 - if thats what you want go with a GT3582R or a Holset HX35/40 with a divided housing, or even an older style ggarrett like a t67.

lastly - i read and reread your posts on multiple forums - and your biggest priority was PROVING that you make 400HP on a stock t28... pull the stick out of ur butt and listen when you're told your car doesnt make 400hp, and people will help you. I've been working with turbocharged cars, specifically for 10 years now and i might know what im talking about.

Like I told rb25drag earlier... no one will really, for sure, know what the output is till it's on the dyno.

And no, he doesn't have the transmission conversion plate-thing yet. He's looking for one(at least, I don't know if he found one)/asking if he'd be better off with that. To my understanding.

...and hells no I'm not him. I'm way sexier. And my s13 isn't exactly in driving order. But mine can outrun his [with his screwed rear end]. Heh... screwed rear end.

[rb25drag]

I Broke my axles on my second pass after I switched over to the 11.5 MT street ET slicks.

My goal of Hp is wat ever it takes to get those numbers our of my car. If you will go back and look it says my motor is built to hold 750HP. Yes 700 would be nice if I can use it. Yes I wanna run 700. But if it only takes 600 to reach my goal then thats less stress and wear on my motor and less money out of my pocket. But if it takes 750hp to do it prove it then so it be.

Ya I found a transmission adapter plate and swap. Thats next after I replace the axles.

You might have a few more years on turbo charged cars. But I have been working on supercharged and high HP cars for 10 years myself. So im not an average joe working on his car trying to make something spectacular out of nothing. Ya im new to the Rb I have only been working on it for 3 years now. But I learn something new everyday.

So dont blow a hose when I bring back decent numbers off the T28 stock turbo from the dyno!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilskyline240]

if you have been turbocharging cars for 10 years why the hell do you have a to ask what turbo to run? idc that its on an RB, a turbo is a turbo and should make the same power no matter what motor its on

[smelly240]

he said hes been working on *supercharged* cars for 10 years himself...

I've been working on turbo cars - and yes i have a large-ish turbocharger

[Carl H]

you guys turned this thread into a pissing match, grow up.closed.