S13 Limits?
German cars will outclass my Nissan anyday and I realize it. I simply want to show him that my "piece of jap crap" can tear his *** apart if it wants to. Which car would I rather have? The Benz. Which car can I afford? The 240. So I'm making do with what I've got. Anyways, this gives me a goal to work towards. The car will certainly be sweet by the time i do it!
nlzmo400r wrote:well since no one has thrown up any specifics, here it goes : 2oo2 mercedes E55: SOHC 3valves/cyl v8- 476hp and 516ft lbs of tq5spd automatic RWD 4o45lbs dry weightUnit Steel frame4849mm long/ 1295mm in height/2845mm wheelbase/1822mm widefront brakes: 14.2 inch internally vented w/ABS, power assist, SBC, ESPRear brakes: 13.o inch, same as frontrims/tires: F-18x8.o R- 18x9.osuspension: F-4 link multi link w/ active Air suspension unitRear- multi link active air suspension unito-6omph: 4.5 seconds1/4 mile: 12.7sec@ 117mph
In Road and Track's o-1oo-o comparison, this car outran the audi S4 and they quoted 'This car would easily out run a corvette zo6 from a redlight' Now thats power for you
what's your source for these specs? i ask cause the tv ad claims 469bhp (not that it maters much
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WingsNThangs
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people talk alot, but most of those people don't live up to their own expectations.
Out of all the people that post here, how many of them actually have a 240 that runs faster then a 12.7? Not many...
I'm sure you're uncle knows that theres faster cars to be had out there. I've seen an 11 second Hyundai Elantra. With enough money and time, you could make a baby stroller shoot down the 1/4 in 12.7 somehow.
Question I'd ask myself is, would your uncle really care if you made your "cheap" 240sx faster then his car? Most likely not, he'll just point out the fact that your car is still a peice of japanese cheapness, just a really fast peice of japanese cheapness.
If I were you, I wouldn't stress out at all about beating a Benz. Build the car for yourself.
Out of all the people that post here, how many of them actually have a 240 that runs faster then a 12.7? Not many...
I'm sure you're uncle knows that theres faster cars to be had out there. I've seen an 11 second Hyundai Elantra. With enough money and time, you could make a baby stroller shoot down the 1/4 in 12.7 somehow.
Question I'd ask myself is, would your uncle really care if you made your "cheap" 240sx faster then his car? Most likely not, he'll just point out the fact that your car is still a peice of japanese cheapness, just a really fast peice of japanese cheapness.
If I were you, I wouldn't stress out at all about beating a Benz. Build the car for yourself.
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WingsNThangs
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To me, "high performance" comes first and foremost with the driver. In more than a straight line. To me, "high performance" has a lot to do with handling.gema wrote:It's more of a personal goal to build the 240 to be both fast as hell and stylish as hell. Beating my Uncle is just to show him that Japan can make high performance machines...even if most of the "high performance" is done by me! Really, it's just a goal to work towards...anyways, it'll be fun =D
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nlzmo400r
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thats all a matter of driver, 13o+ can be safe if you know what you're doing and not stupid, of course 13o in traffic, thats a different story. The big mercedes designed to take on high speed cruising such as on german hwys (the famous bahn) can do it very safely, i wouldnt be the least bit worried cruising in one of those cars at 15omph as opposed to doing 12omph in my carD-UNIT wrote:Yeah and speed limiters can be removed. Watch out , old men are sneaky! But honestly when was the last time anyone got over 130. Fast or not that kind of speed is not safe ( 150+mph)!!
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Very true. This is why I do not intend to race him until I'm 110% comfortable with my car and my ability to control it in any situation.
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:rolleyes It would be absolutely retarded to think I could build my car to be FASTER than his. I'm simply going for quicker and better handling.
...So enough with the debate over whether or not it's a good idea, what on earth must I do to my car to beat the E55? =P
Very true. This is why I do not intend to race him until I'm 110% comfortable with my car and my ability to control it in any situation.
Quote »You might be able to build your 240 to beat him in the quarter mile[/quote]
:rolleyes It would be absolutely retarded to think I could build my car to be FASTER than his. I'm simply going for quicker and better handling.
...So enough with the debate over whether or not it's a good idea, what on earth must I do to my car to beat the E55? =P
Phax wrote:You might be able to build your 240 to beat him in the quarter mile. I don't think that the 240 has the gearing to take a E55 on the top end. That car probably tops out somewhere around 170-180.
A 240SX can certainly be geared to break 300kph (187mph). Signal's S15 has reached 313kph (195 mph). If I remember correctly I've seen Dai break 200mph in a white S13 or S14 on the speed test track in one of the old Best Motoring videos
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SkylineDriven
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Just for the record... I have owned a German car and now own a Japanese car (duh.. I'm on this board so obviously Ive got a Nissan).... and I have got to say that my German car (2001 VW Jetta) was MUCH higher ride quality than my 240. The highest quality Jap car I have driven is the NSX and granted.... its a nice piece of machinery. But German cars (VW, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes) far outclass any Japanese car (generally speaking).. although my favorite car is Japanese (Nissan Skyline)... you can definitely tell the difference when you are driving a Krautmobile. I could probably be blindfolded and be put in different cars and tell the what car is from what country just by seat of the pants feel. Its just a different league. Those of you that have owned American cars, Jap cars, and German cars will probably agree with me that in stock form... German > Jap > American. I've never driven or ridden in an Italian car so I can't compare those. But although it would be nice to beat your uncle's AMG with your tricked out S13.... at the end of the day, while I would give you props for building one fine racing machine... I would rather take the AMG home with me. Just my 2 cents. You may resume your verbal battles.
its 469hp 516tq. the sl55 is 496hp 516tq.the motor is the same, but the exhaust on the e55 isslightly more restrictive, creating the difference.
the company i used to tow for was contracted by mercedes-benz. ive taken every mercedes model out for a spin. let me tell you, the e55 drops some SERIOUS smoke when you light the tires up;) the ml55 is a blast to drive to. i raced a s4 from a stoplight and hung with it. a truck the ml's size with 349 hp and 380tq isnt a joke, eventhough its a piece of ****. the ml series broke down more than any other car. well, except for the ford focus.
the company i used to tow for was contracted by mercedes-benz. ive taken every mercedes model out for a spin. let me tell you, the e55 drops some SERIOUS smoke when you light the tires up;) the ml55 is a blast to drive to. i raced a s4 from a stoplight and hung with it. a truck the ml's size with 349 hp and 380tq isnt a joke, eventhough its a piece of ****. the ml series broke down more than any other car. well, except for the ford focus.