Nope...s14tan wrote:aww Did you miss me D?
i know this. if you notice sometimes the displacement has a x2 after it. mostly this is shown on some video games and some spec sheets. but its advertised as a 1.1 for the 12a.H8tred wrote:
It's a 2.2, all rotarys are really double their assigned capacity. Damn it. Mazda decided that since it's not technically a 4 stroke engine, that they could get away with measuring it by 2 stroke standards.
Don't believe me, look up any NA 13Bs factory numbers, and look at any other 1.3, then look at say a 2.6 Caviler. I rest my case.
true, that's why rotaries drink so much gas like any other 2 stroke engines cuz the power stroke comes on more often.H8tred wrote:
It's a 2.2, all rotarys are really double their assigned capacity. Damn it. Mazda decided that since it's not technically a 4 stroke engine, that they could get away with measuring it by 2 stroke standards.
Don't believe me, look up any NA 13Bs factory numbers, and look at any other 1.3, then look at say a 2.6 Caviler. I rest my case.
but very trueSabot wrote:Blah,blah,blah, SR blah,blah,blah,it will blow up,blah,blah,blah,why ,blah,blah,blah,my SR don't run but I will never put a perfectly running rotary,blah,blah I don't know what I'm talking about only what I read,blah,blah,blah, RB25,blah,blah,blah,RB 26,blah,blah,blah, nobody know how to work with them,blah,blah,blah, and on and on and on..........in a land far, far away...........LOL
No, I can't say that I've ever noticed that. If Mazda was responsible for putting the x2 in print, I would hate them a little less (I don't hate the Wankel, I hate Mazda for their abuse).danielsan wrote:
i know this. if you notice sometimes the displacement has a x2 after it. mostly this is shown on some video games and some spec sheets. but its advertised as a 1.1 for the 12a.
That makes no sense. 2 strokes get great mileage, and the powerband is up high. It gets there quicker due to a reed valve or simplified pressure operated pop-it valve, rather than a cam driven mechanical valve. That's about the only similarity between a 2 stroke and Wankel.It consumes fuel around the same rate as any other 2.6L.spooled240 wrote:
true, that's why rotaries drink so much gas like any other 2 stroke engines cuz the power stroke comes on more often.and I don't care if they can't go 200,000miles w/out maintenance, ROTARIES ARE THE SHIIT
2 stroke dirt bikes use a lot of gas compared to the 4 stroke ones, but 2 strokes are more efficient making way more power out of small displacement. So yes, you can say that a 2 stroke gets good mileage for their power but they still drink a decent amount of gas for their displacement. Theoretically, a 2 stroke engine will use twice the amount of gas for every intake stroke on a 4 stroke engine.H8tred wrote:That makes no sense. 2 strokes get great mileage, and the powerband is up high. It gets there quicker due to a reed valve or simplified pressure operated pop-it valve, rather than a cam driven mechanical valve. That's about the only similarity between a 2 stroke and Wankel.It consumes fuel around the same rate as any other 2.6L.
It's true, rotary powered cars seem to be very reliable, as opposed to what some say. Everytime I go to the track, it's the SR / RB / KA powered 240s that end up breaking down, and the FCs always drive home. Sure, sometimes the FCs will break something stupid like an axle, but it's never a major engine problem, whereas I've noticed lately that a lot of 240s at the track have been having major problems like rod knock, overheating, or burning ECUs.White Comet wrote:^ exactly. i dailyed my fc the 45 minute trip (one way) to school and back every day for 2.5 years. it didn't do good on gas, but the only reliability problem i had was a leaky injector, but thats nothing. even when it would flood, the series 5 is smart enough to unflood itself
Then immediately below...he even didn't run the "cooling Lab" why....b/c he didn't want it to blow on the track....@ mazda's booth....BOOOOOM rotaryWhite Comet wrote:of course, it was rotary power that won 24 hours of le mans in 91, they can take a beating
So true! N/A rotaries are unbelievably reliable for racing. Gotta build em' right, but that's the same story with any race-ready motor.White Comet wrote:of course, it was rotary power that won 24 hours of le mans in 91, they can take a beating
kornaz wrote:I like pistons. And i will stay with them. Something about turning triangles throws me off....
TRAITOOOOORRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........LOL....small engines..small enginesAli 556 wrote:lolololol,
so every on likes the "400whp @13psi" blown engine....FYI An LS1 + T76 Made 560whp @ 8PSI And 783Whp @14PSI...
All on 95 oct Fuel....
Also A 427ci (7.0L) LSx Made 2800 Whp @35 PSI (Drag custome made engine)....With TWIN GT47-88s
Who's laughin now bitcxh?
i loved my NA, the only reason i'm not driving it anymore is i pulled the na motor and sold it for $800. it'll get a 13bt eventually but i'm working on the s13 nowmattblancarte wrote:
So true! N/A rotaries are unbelievably reliable for racing. Gotta build em' right, but that's the same story with any race-ready motor.
Oh c'mon! Thats like comparing apples to... really big f**king apples! Of course that would be expected from an ls1 with it's higher displacement. But you can't deny that those kind of numbers from a small displacement motor is quite impressive (if you can keep it running, that is..).Ali 556 wrote:lolololol,
so every on likes the "400whp @13psi" blown engine....FYI An LS1 + T76 Made 560whp @ 8PSI And 783Whp @14PSI...
All on 95 oct Fuel....
Also A 427ci (7.0L) LSx Made 2800 Whp @35 PSI (Drag custome made engine)....With TWIN GT47-88s
Who's laughin now bitcxh?