Lost_To_A_K-Car wrote:Quoth palmer..."]It was me wo initiated on the moderator board a thread about kcar losing his mod status.'And we got alot of agreement.
1)From whom? Neither of the two mods who responded to the thread spoke of prior knowledge, and Daunttless was not consulted.
2)Stop pretending that you run this board by consensus, Fred. You and I (and most everyone else) know that it isn't true.
made smart-*** remarks when other mods tried to do their job,
3)Still bitter about my disagreement on the technical forums "rules", I see.
used totally inappropiate language for a moderator,
Once.
Many of you that are bitterly complaining on this thread, have been on the board for a while and are unaffected in many ways by what he does.
4)Again, you seem to be the only one that feels my contributions have been, in sum, negative.
Besides, your point is provably false. I have gotten into knock down, drag out flamefests with at least three or four of the people who supported me in that thread. Everyone else seems to understand that it's all in fun, why do you have such a hard time wrapping your head around this? [bbut how many times did we see newbies join, only to be attacked by him ad never come back??
5)Exactly twice, and "attack" isn't really an appropriate definition of my responses in those cases. I was also not alone in either of those situations.
Others have complained about him before, his very appoint ment as a mod was not w/o controversy
The "controversy" was that you didn't want me to be a mod. As usual, you're projecting your own opinion onto others in an effort to give the impression of consensus where there was none.
6)and one of the conditions was he would change, not only did he not change but actually got worse in many ways.
7)Once again, there's your opinion, expressed as objective fact.
If you had simply demoted me, I wouldn't have gone to the (considerable) trouble of deleting my posts. No, you instead chose to demote me unilaterally, without discussion, and without giving me the opportunity to defend myself. Further, until your last post in the 'k-car?' thread, you never even deigned to offer any commentary on the subject, let alone a personal explanation to me.
8)And that is why I deleted my posts.
And finally, yes, it wasnt suppsoed to go down as quick as this, Daunt was supposed to have been consulted, but a lot of other Mods and Admins,( some of whom had emailed with him about before, ) were clearly out of patience.
9)So, you've had a deluge of complaints regarding me over the past month or so, but you never once took a moment to mention them to me? Never a single "hey, don't do that", despite what you claim was vehement and recurring objection to my behavio for letting me go.
I had a very long day at work and this is a pretty sad thread to come home to...But I guess I will ahve to answer, hopefully this will be the last time.
A lot of you chose chose to make posts w/o knowing more, so here is a little background , plz be sure to read whcih numbers I am answering to at the time:
1) Daunt knew of the ,momentum aginst you and there was a thread about u on the mod forum.I was hoping he would see that thread, but it was really too late in many ways.
2) Dont exploit the members ignorance of our process for your childish revenge posts here.There is never something done w/o some kind of consensus, not that it really matters, but the removal of your privileges was done by another Admin, but I dont owe you an explanation on who all agreed with your losing mod settings..
3) I am not bitter , just disturbed by your lack of judgment.
4) Because a lot of PPL dont.This is NOT a place for peopel to aggrandize themselves based on being moderator, something you seem to enjoy doing.Which is probably the reason why you suspect the same of me because you can't imagine PPL functioning in any other way.
5) "Not being alone", is not an excuse, a moderator has to <moderate > those kind of things and not become someone who energizes them.
6) It is a fact there were some very specific conditions spelled out and I KNOW ,you got briefed on them by Daunt.Again, why do you feel the need to lie, to the membership who doesnt know any better?
7)You <know> you were not "demoted " unilaterally.Kinda impossible when someone otehr than me does that don't you think?
Again why the lie? Do you take everything so personal ,that you are willing to lie, to make your revenge posts more effective??:rolleyes:
8) that is why? at the time u deleted your posts you KNEW it wasn't unilateral, bacuse you must have spoken to Daunt by then.Again you are actually lying:eek: .for what?Revenge? if so, you have more serious problems than I thought.
9) I dint bother emailing u for 2 reasons a) you dont exactly have a history of being reasonable, even when appoached in a friendly fashion by another Moderatorb) you simply have had too many chances, but you just didnt feel like doing the right thing.
It would have been a lot easier for all concerned ,if you had just been more reasonable.
But <no> you you insisted on doing what u felt like, and now you dont want to accept the consequences, which you <must> have known would come.
Even worse, now you are engaging in a childish revenge gig, against our little club...
Some of us care about this place you know?
And you are proving with these useless and devisive threads that you dont and never did.
Fred....
PS: Anotehr thing Calling NICO and enterprise and alluding to the ad on tops.when you MUST know from daunt that we dont make a penny nevr have never will. This site costs SO MUCH more money to run, than it takes in from our humble banners.The site runs cuz a couple of admins pay fir it our of their own pocket!. kcar MUST know this. cuz daunt does and they talk plenty, why kacr tries to paint us as money grubbers is up to you to decide.
For a while I almost felt bad for the way thingts went down... not anymore.
