Rep check on Batfa

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Curious if anyone has gone through these guys, or knows someone who has. I'm comptemplating bringing an entire Silvia over as a parts car

:help

http://www.batfa.com/

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Guess not!

Post by **S14 Wannabe** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

As long as I've been searching for stuff.... I've never heard of them.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Know any good reputable companies overseas?

In the end, I'm prolly gonna have to go to a used car lot in japan, and put a car on a boat myself, lol. I'm glad my best friends dad owns an import company

Post by **rco8786** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

hmmm.... 2,300 for a silvia + 900 shipping. That's like the cost of a clip, but you get a whole car.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

^ exactly my point, so why just get a clip if you can get a whole car?

This isnt the only company where I've seen S13s go this cheap

Post by **drifter sx** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

give 'em a call get some info and find out how many ways they can actually screw you...

Post by **gema** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

That Nissan "Cube" was so hot...now I want one. Damn sketchy Japanese website!

Post by **Onizuka** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

why buy a clip when you could get a whole car and watch it get crushed after it doesnt get through customs?

Most of those sites are intended for austrailians, who can actually import and legalize cars never sold in their country.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:why buy a clip when you could get a whole car and watch it get crushed after it doesnt get through customs?

You just made me shed a tear at the thought

I can bring it over for "off road" use in California, thats about it, there is always that chance tho. But I doubt that will be to big of a problem if I have any luck and land this job I'm workin on

Post by **tl1000sga** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

95' supra = $9000?????????????93' skyline = $4600?????????

I think my 240 project just went on hold.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

there is no way to legalize that skyline tho, unless you take it to motorex, and pay 18k (for a R32 i believe)

Post by **droptopsilvia** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

who cares about legalizing it!as long as you dont let them catch you!

Post by **droptopsilvia** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

wow after checking out the website, that might be an option.a donor car, you could get it through customs, as a drag car or something of that nature.

Post by **Onizuka** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

it takes an incredible amount of paper work to get a car through customs offroad or not, and on top of that you can only keep it in the country for a year. Sure you could just try and not get caught, but as soon as you get pulled over, off to the impound lot and a sceduled meeting with the local car crusher.

Post by **wpg240** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...SSID=

review the above about guy's in Quebec selling engines. Is this the same person? May be not but judging buy this guy's feedback I would be nervous.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

^^^ ouch

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

no questions asked huh just stright execution

Post by **wpg240** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Here is the original NICO thread were that link came from. I believe we can dis-regard Adam's comments from Afterdark, however I think there is alot of other interesting tidbits in there about people that have had similar problems with buying engines on-line and specifically out of Quebec.

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....fraud

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:it takes an incredible amount of paper work to get a car through customs offroad or not, and on top of that you can only keep it in the country for a year. Sure you could just try and not get caught, but as soon as you get pulled over, off to the impound lot and a sceduled meeting with the local car crusher.

Yeah, but if I put all the parts in a USDM chassis (s13) then noones the wiser, I'll have my USDM VIN and everything, I can just say its a show car or something if I get rolled and they're like "wtf, the steering wheel is on the wrong side"

You ARE allowed to have right hand drive vehicles in Cali

As for the motor/emissions, I have 2 KA motors, I can get it to pass smog that way, or I can just get the car to comply, or take it to a friend

Post by **Onizuka** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

yeah your allowed to drive RHD vehicles in all 50 states.

Its still about 3x as expensive and 10x as hard to ship a car into the country when you could just get a front clip and all the parts through a used parts dealer for cheap. If you have a way of getting away with it thats great, i know other people have too.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

5k for a full install/conversion at a shop vs 4k for an entire car, and doing a COMPLETE conversion yourself....

Hrmmm

Post by **wpg240** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

wpg240 wrote:http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...SSID=

review the above about guy's in Quebec selling engines. Is this the same person? May be not but judging buy this guy's feedback I would be nervous.

Sorry guy's wrong thread!!!

Post by **tl1000sga** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

prigo wrote:there is no way to legalize that skyline tho, unless you take it to motorex, and pay 18k (for a R32 i believe)

Any car that is approved by the EPA and DOT can be legalized in the US. Anybody can do it, not just motorex. There are other companies that can do it, or you could do it with the right knowledge.

Post by **wpg240** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

I may be wrong but I believe Motorex is the ony company at this point that can legalize a Skyline. Mororex has paid the huge amount of cash to crash test the Skyline to earn US certification.

You cannot just take a car and add new bumpers etc to make it US legal.

Post by **tl1000sga** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

wpg240 wrote:I may be wrong but I believe Motorex is the ony company at this point that can legalize a Skyline. Mororex has paid the huge amount of cash to crash test the Skyline to earn US certification.

You cannot just take a car and add new bumpers etc to make it US legal.

There is at least one other company, but I can't remember thier name. Maaybe I have it wrote somewhere. You are correct about the adding bumpers thing, but once the crash test step is passed for the DOT, then it is just a matter of knowing what to do for each type of car. Do you think that a crash test has to be done for each and every individual car that is imported? That is why the car has to be approved by the DOT. Crash test info is by law public knowledge, and then there's the monopoly laws, so no, Motorex is not the only company that can import a skyline.

Post by **LittleBrotherSilvia** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

prigo wrote:5k for a full install/conversion at a shop vs 4k for an entire car, and doing a COMPLETE conversion yourself....

Hrmmm

or u could get a clip and install it urself like i did mine, for $2500 shipped... then have ur $1500 to do whatever else u wanted to.

Post by **prigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Yeah, but I want it to be JDM tyte, yo.

BTW, I know there is another company, but to do the conversion yourself would be a *****, because as I understand it, the DOT has no obligation to tell you how to legalize it, and I'm SURE Motorex won't just hand you a list and say "good luck!"

Post by **tl1000sga** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

Well, I know crash test info is available to the public, but I've never tried to get it so I have no idea how much of a headache it would be. And it would deffinately be a ***** to do the work yourself, but for the prices Motorex charges, I wouldn't even consider going threw them.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

the info and heresay in this thread is beyond belief. have any of you actually read the us customs regulations on importing nonconforming vehilces into the us? have any of you actually read the department of transportations rules on legalizing a nonconforming vehicle? have any of you read the epa's rules for emissions testing a nonconforming engine? if you fail a SINGLE requirement, tough luck you are sol.

im suprised no one has searched because i have argued about this topic many times with uninformed "dreamers." motorex and rbmotoring are the only places to buy or legalize a skyline for street legal use in the us. motorex has spent the money for their emissions and crash testing and that info is monopolized by them, they payed for it, they own it. it is not avaliable to public use, so whoever says they read it in import tuner is wrong.

prigo if you think you can just put a US vin plate on your jdm fantasy car, then you are an idiot. if you can even get a complete parts car, non-running to be legal, i would be suprised. from there you would have to swap every part feasible into a legal registered LHD chassis. from there it's your choice to do a rhd swap or not, but that would involve cutting up the jdm (OMG) chassis and doing the conversion to your lhd chassis. so in any case you can never have a 100% jdm car that is legal in the US, unless it is a skyline from motorex. tough luck, grow up, and do some research.

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