Rear Monted Turbo

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TRT (TEXAS REAR TURBOS) IS GOING TO START INSTALLING ONEOF THE STS REAR TURBOS ON 2 90 240 KA24E CARS.

TRT INSTALLES AND SALES STS TURBO KIT THEY HAVE PREMADE KITS FOR F-BODYS, TOY. TRUCKS AND GM TRUCKS.

THERE 02 FORMULLA MADE 309HP AND 316TQ W/ THE REAR MOUNTED TURBO ON A STOCK LS1 AT 5PSI AND NO TUNINGTHEY MADE 412 AND 455.

AND IF YOU THINK THERE IS LAG, 3000RPM JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TURBO AND SO MUCH MORE POWER JUST FROM THE TURBO STAYING SO MUCH COOLER IN THE REAR (500DEG. COOLER)THAT MEANS NO INT. COOLER. INTAKE TEMPS AT 115DEGTHATS COOL FOR A TURBO CAR W/ A BIG INT. COOLER


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what?

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O-BUY THE WAY THE TOY. TRUCK 6CYL AT 5PSI ON STOCK ENGNO TUNING WENT FROM 112HP TO 220HP AND I CANT RECALLTHE TQ #S BUT IT ADDED LIKE 150LB

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are you talking about putting a turbo in the trunk?? I don't get it...

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What’s a Rear Mounted Turbo?

What is STS?

Why do we care they do domestic trucks?

Turn off your caps lock

This looks like an advertisement for them. Thread should be locked or deleted shortly.

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NO NOT IN THE TRUNK. THE SET UP ON ALL THE KITS IS THAT THE TURBO REPLACES THE MUFFLER AND GET THIS ITS CER. TO PASSCALF. SPECS THEY JUST RUN AN INTAKE PIPE TO THE FROUNT KIND OF LIKE TRUE DUALS. SO GET THIS THE TURBO BEING IN THE BACK STAYS 500DEG COOLER. YOU KNOW FROM AIR PASSING OVER IT AND THE EXHAUST BEING COOLER THEN YOU GET THIS POWDER COATED PIPE RUNNING TO THE FROUNT OF THE CAR WHICH ACTSJUST LIKE AN INTER COOLER.

SO SHORT NO 1000DEG TEMPS UNDER THE HOODAND FOR THOSE THINKING ABOUT THE CAR SITTING STILL LIKEON A DYNO THEY TESTED THE SYS. AND THE ARE TEMP AROUND THE TURBO AFTER 4 DYNOS IN A ROW ONLY CHANGED 15DEG

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so you will be building pressure in the entire exhausts system?

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ive seen this setup before on some f-body's that do not have much room for turbo in the engine bay. It seems really inefficient but I imagine it still functions.I still smell a Noobie considering you have only 2 posts ever on these forums. Usually people type in caps locks when they are trying to get someones attention or just trying to be annoying.

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I just think its cool Ive been trying to find a way to get some power out of my s13 w/ out eng. swaps i thougt this was pretty cool and nothing any body realy seen. just look at sts web site.Ill try to get dynos from trt on the 240's

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and for lowered cars like most of the people on here, running a 2.5 pipe back to the engine is not an option

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here's the website everyone:http://www.ststurbo.com/products It would make a sleeper if nobody figured out why there was a charge pipe coming from underneath the car and didnt notice an intercooler.

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I think they use a smaller ex. housing that spolls up faster.But still there making maxs boost at 3000rpmand they use a oil pump to help flow back to eng.

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Your talking lowered cars have you looked under an s13The floor pan has the same rise up on the pas. side as the driver side. The under siad of the car looks like its set up to run dualsonly for sway having no grove on one said

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some people might like this modification. It retains the factory exhaust manifold which is convenient to some. Its a great idea since its different compared to most conventional setups. It has its drawbacks im sure but I wouldnt mind doing this on like a second beater car I had nothing else better to do! LOL.

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dude I drag my can everywhere. And the turbo would have to be at least as thick as my smallish can. And if you dragged the turbos, or ripped the oil lines off...thats gonna **** stuff up.I still wanna know what happens when the 1000 degree turbo meets a 40 degree puddle.

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andrave wrote:dude I drag my can everywhere. And the turbo would have to be at least as thick as my smallish can. And if you dragged the turbos, or ripped the oil lines off...thats gonna **** stuff up.I still wanna know what happens when the 1000 degree turbo meets a 40 degree puddle.
yeah no kidding, lots of shielding from water and debris. Yeah, lets see Mr. Hot Cast Turbine Housing meet Mr. H20 without shielding. Cracking and Rust much.I'm curious about their oiling method though. I'll look into that.The other thing I thought of is the air flow meter. It obviously would be installed as a blow through setup. Imagine running a boost controller to those wastegate to compressor signal lines which are a million feet away? haha. The idea makes me laugh but then again its kinda cool and different and convenient.

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wouldnt response be pretty poor with such long piping going to and from the turbo?

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HAHAHA, they want just as much as a regular turbo kit...

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TurboKA37 wrote:wouldnt response be pretty poor with such long piping going to and from the turbo?
It would seem like it would. That compressed air has a long way to travel until it reaches the intake manifold. Im sure the air is moving fast but who knows.

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well, I read about this on one of my brother's mustang boards well over a year ago. Someone claimed that 3 feet of straight piping added something like .3 seconds of lag or something like that, I don't remember exactly.

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klattr1 wrote:It would seem like it would. That compressed air has a long way to travel until it reaches the intake manifold. Im sure the air is moving fast but who knows.
Not only that…but by the time you open the throttle, the exhausts has to travel down to spool the turbo, then the compressor starts compressing the air, until it reaches the engine, for it to produce more exhausts, by the time that travels down the exhausts system to spool the turbo even more, you lost the race,

They advertise you hit full boost by 3,000rpm, yeah on large a** V-8 that at 3K produce massive exhausts pressure.

There are too many draw backs to this system,

Running oil lines for 20 feet under the car, risking tearing them apart, and they advertise that it cools the oil because there is such a long way to travel. Freaking noobs

Running an extra pipe under the car, is not an option on lowered vehicles, this system works on trucks only, and the Camaros and vetts, they replace one side of the exhausts system.

The air filter is placed under the car, I might as well just go submerge my filter right now and save the trouble.

It cost as much as a conventional turbo kit.

I can’t even starts to imagine how lagy this system will be on anything with less then 8 cylinders not alone 4

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As for the 1000 deg turbo and water. You must not get it. THE TURBO STAYS SO COOL IN THE BACK OF THE CAR, LIKE I PUT UP!PLUS THE SETUP HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ABUOT 2 YEARS ANDON DIALY DRIVERS YOU CAN DRIVE THE CRAP OUT OF THE CAR AND TOSS WATER ALL OVER IT AND NO PROBLEM.

And like I said your still thinking frount mount. Same lag as any other turbo 3000rpm max boost and max Tq. know if i went and put the same turbo that front mounted kits use and put it in the rear yes I would have lag probles but these people have a turboset up for the rear.And if you took all your piping for a frount mount kit and layed it out w/ int cooler you would see 1/2 foot def

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and f bodys dont replace one side of the exh. the cars only have one exh to a y exitAlose the smaller motors are know showing to spool up the turbos faster.You talk about it hase so far to go to the bake of the car try thinking of the vol. of exh pressure already at the turbo at start up when you hit the gas theres already exhaust pressure therehow long do you think it take the exh. to get to the rear .001

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Does any one have a turbo ka24e what kind of power areyou making at what boost. And does any one sell mods forthe turbo ka24e

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Hmm I don't really know how much of an advantage this setup would have over a normal one, seeing as how one would have to deal with all the standard things going back to the rear such as oil. Though it would be a very interesting project to set out and attempt, just becuase of the originality factor.

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DDB240SXS13 wrote:Alose the smaller motors are know showing to spool up the turbos faster.


Now how the heck is that possible?

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Why??If this turbo stays so cool back there, its gotta have tons of lag. When was the last time you got burned by a tailpipe?? Doesnt spool up involve exhaust gas temp as much as gas velocity??And once it starts making boost, the pressurized air has to travel 20ft to reach the motor. Like checkered said, this could only be possible on a big ole V8. Try this with your SR and you'll hit redline before you make boost.Meet your worst enemies: Puddles, potholes, speedbumps, a kid with a hacksaw. But hey, it can improve weight distribution

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i dont really understand why a cooler turbo is better. think of how much heat will be lost from the exhaust gases with such a long distance to travel. when temp goes down so will pressure which means spool is down. and reaching full boost at 3000rpm on a V8 is very different than on a I4.

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this does sound like a pretty bad idea, especially since its so hard to understand what that person wrote, there has to be like 50 errors in each of his posts

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lag would be way long. This simply wouldnt work that well for an SR or even a bigger KA. I thought turbos NEED heat to spool up quick, and then the air gets cooler before the intake mani because of the intercooler??


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