Rear Deck Speakers

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What size speakers do you need for the rear deck? Thanks Josh


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isnt the s14 6 1/2's all around?

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Yes... the s14's are 6 1/2's all the way around.S13's have 4 inch plate speakers(sucks so bad)

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For the S13's out there, there's not a big point to replace those speakers. All they do is provide fill while the sub drowns them out. If you really wanted to you could and should, but if you buy high end components with tweets for your doors up front it should sound significant without breaking the piggy. Just a note here. Its not necassarily the speakers that make your stereo sound its best. Starting with a tight deck, adequit wiring for the watts, location and distance of equiptment, and in some cases most important of all, cd quality. burned cds will never match the cleanliness of a store bought cd. I know, I rarely buy em, but if you burn a cd you really really love, go buy it and I guarantee it'll sound better and support your fave artist/band. Gotta, gotta have great sounding music in your car. pieces.

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Thanks guys!I just bought a Kenwood X-459 Head Unit and door panel Kenwood speakers.

Josh

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it's simple..one board across the back and carpet it..then pick whatever size speakers you want-http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....=1513

like the 3rd post on that page has a pic of mine-

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For Pioneers you will need to buy the oversized 6 3/4" to fit the S14s. They hold more power and have a tad more bass. I just like to have a clear stereo ... not into systems and stuff so dont listen to me for brand advice.

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I hate to be a **** but kenwood sucks on everything except h/u's and some amps. I know its cool to have everything the same but you would probably be better off picking different speakers, definately if you didnt get the kenwood componets.

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Okay, I gotta ask... whats with your name? InstantRice? So are you a ricer, or are you mocking them?

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its mocking. I have nothing but audiomods done to my car. Im getting ready to lower it and im saving for a ca. No body mods, no gtr emblems and no powered by nissan stickers.

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InstantRice wrote:its mocking. I have nothing but audiomods done to my car. Im getting ready to lower it and im saving for a ca. No body mods, no gtr emblems and no powered by nissan stickers.
Good to hear that someone is doing something different. :)

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i need a small system. my s14's amp is not working correctly. i took it to a local audio place here in town and they said the part of the amp that powers the front 4 speakers (door panel and tweets) is dead. so i'm wanting a new H/U for xmas, and i may get a 12 or sumthin. nuthin huge. i might even go as far as reaplacing the door panel speakers and rear window speeks.

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how much you looking to spend. also just noticed your from bowling green my mom was born in hopkinsville.

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InstantRice wrote:how much you looking to spend. also just noticed your from bowling green my mom was born in hopkinsville.
u serious. you ever come down to hop-town? if you do man we need to hook up. and i have no idea how much i'm looking to spend. i haven't really looked into it yet. the deck is like 300+. or at least it was a couple months ago. its the sony deck w/ a completely digital front face, w/ all the controls hidden on the back of it. you push the button, down comes the face and there is your CD access and your controls. i LOVE that deck. my OEM cd played dont' work either. so i just have radio, w/ so busted rear speakers:mad:

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I need to replace my rear deck speaks for my s13... got any recommendations...

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freak..just cut a board and carpet it and do 6.5's or 6x9's...ten million times better than the 4x6's

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if you want subs dont get any(provided you have a hb). Otherwise focal/mb quarts/infiniti are always pretty tight choices.

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I've got a tight little 10 inch sub... kyle... you got a pic of those 6x 9's? i would like to see how you did it

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Had the interior out when i took these pics-

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that's a 12 inch sub mounted in the middle...and the amp is mounted up against the box...it all looks pretty clean and i only lose about 1 square foot where the box is because the 6 x 9's aren't boxed in-Here's a pic of 6 x 9's in the door too...ten million times better than the 4 x 6's...that's a cheap pioneer speaker..their ow line..but I was just seeing if I could do it..i'm probably gonna end up with something better but I'm more gear towards engine and drivetrain mods right now-

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are ur rear 6 by 9s just sitting there on your box? Is it tough to make the door converson? sigh... i wish i had money...

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the 6 x 9's are mounted to a seperate board..the sub is mounted to the middle of the board..then we built a box around it...but i'm redoing all that pretty soon..go newer better ideas but i'll take pics when i'm finished with all that. The door thing just requires use of a dremel or better yet a jigsaw(that's what i used..then you have to just cut it to the right shape then mount it with some metal screws..it works...i made baffles with mdf wood...and dynomatted around the speaker....the speaker is mounted to the wooden baffles which are mounted to the door..but you can do it a million different ways...just make sure it's insulated..desn't rattle..and that the window rolls all the way down.

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nice setup there 1991240xs. I was wondering about the backspeaker setup myself cause i just completely chucked them and did something similar w/ more subs.

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ya my new plan is more subs. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what I want. Most likley it will be a ten and two 8's(I like tighter bass...not so much the low. But i will prolly end up with the 12 and two 8's...the twelve will face the back and the two 8's will face the top. The 6 x 9's will be mounted in the back of the hatch(trunk lock area) facing towards the front...angled up about 30 degrees...i'm gonna have a 350 watt for the 12 inch sub...and another matching 350 for the two 8's....then an amp for the front door speakers(gonna upgrade to something crazy. I also have tweeters mounted where my window crank holes use to be(converted to power windows) and two tweeters on the rear deck that will run straight off of the deck..but right now are combined with the 6 x 9's-

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i wish i knew alot about this ****.. but i dont...

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what 8's are you going to use. I havent installed a single 8 in my life right now i wanna see if i can make room for another 12. I was thinking of selling my adires for type r's and cash since they take up less room. 4 12's in a 240sx....fear me.

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Well I want the tight bass and the low...but of cours i like the tight bass...and i'd rather not everyone know i have the stereo when i pull into a gas station...8's are just simple subs...not amazing or anything but add a lil' to the system-

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The easiest way to get excellent sound out of you car is to keep it simple. Im more of an audiophile and an SPL freak, so my set up will be a little more complicated, but for a great sounding set up that doesnt damage the bank too bad, heres a few suggestions:

Get a nice head unit (cd player): you get what you pay for in most cases, but buy online, you will save hella money. Alpine and Eclipse make the best CD players in my opinion, but Pioneer also has some nice high end stuff.

Get a component set as your front speakers. They can play louder than coaxials, and the sound way way better. They consist of a set of tweeters, a set of mids, and a set of crossovers. Brands to look for: MB Quart, Focal, Image Dynamics, CDT. A three way component set is a kick *** way to go, they are very efficient. For the highest quality in sound, go with a component set up front (in some kick panels: they give you way better imaging) and go with some 8"s in the doors. That will allow the 8s to play the midbass, so you can crossover your component set higher, so it can play clearer and louder.

Amplify your front speakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The CD player is not gonna be enough, believe me. Most CD players put out about 20 watts rms. A nice component set must be amplified. For amps check these out: Phoenix Gold, Orion, JL Audio, Directed, Arc, Zapco.

You wont need rear speakers if you have subs, they will be drowned out. Focus on your front set up, thats where you sit anyways.

Depending on how loud you need your music, two 10s or two 12s should be efficient, especialy if you have a hatchback. These subs kick ***: Audiomobile, Resonant Engeniering, Adire, Image Dynamics, JL, Beyond Audio, Digiatal Designs(DD). Most arent popular brands that all your buddies have heard of, but performance counts, theres nothing in a name. Chack any car audio forum, these names are all over.

When looking for any speakers and amps check the rms power, thats the power the amps put out continuosly, and the power the speakers and subs can handle continuosly.

Make sure your box is built to spec for that sub. All 12" subs dont take the same size enclosure, so unless you know what your doing, save the money up and have one professionally built, because the box is whats gonna decide how your sub performs.

Use sound deadening either Dynamat or Raamat(you can find it on ebay) youll keep more music in, so you wont have to turn your music up as loud, and it gets rid of the ghetto rattle you hear from most cars that have subs.

Thats my two cents, have fun.

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Right now i have a 10 inch sub, i just bought an alpine deck, and i have new jbl 4x6's... i've decided to take out my back seats and replace that with a board and mount 2 6 by 9's and my amps.... the back seats are useless...

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hey the 240 im buying has a sub. didnt specify what size though, but I plan on throwing another mono channel and 2 mtx 12 6k's and then throw in another 4 channel amp and put 4 more extra speakers that i have lying around. oh ****, now whats gonna start the car?


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