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so i was trying to find some rear brembo calipers and i stumbled upon this forum talking about wheel weights on the calipers of the new cameros. i cant believe it. GM did it agian. f*** ghetto, i hate GM they are a horrible manufacture. they went under, got bailed out and now are producing shotty craftsmanship. it wont be long before people stop buying their cars again.

anyways heres the link
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19161

enjoy :lolling:


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LOL what the.

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lol... im speechless

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motoman399 wrote:so i was trying to find some rear brembo calipers and i stumbled upon this forum talking about wheel weights on the calipers of the new cameros. i cant believe it. GM did it agian. f**king ghetto, i hate GM they are a horrible manufacture. they went under, got bailed out and now are producing shotty craftsmanship. it wont be long before people stop buying their cars again.

anyways heres the link
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19161

enjoy :lolling:
Got teh sandy vag much?

It's not even a GM issue, it's a Brembo issue. Brembo redesigned the caliper and now they're good to go. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if GM issues a TSB on them and upgrades free of charge.

Hugh automaker has minor design flaw, it's happened before...

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Old news... like... way old.

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On there to reduce brake noise? What a bunch of bull.

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Bwana wrote:
motoman399 wrote:so i was trying to find some rear brembo calipers and i stumbled upon this forum talking about wheel weights on the calipers of the new cameros. i cant believe it. GM did it agian. f**king ghetto, i hate GM they are a horrible manufacture. they went under, got bailed out and now are producing shotty craftsmanship. it wont be long before people stop buying their cars again.

anyways heres the link
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19161

enjoy :lolling:
Got teh sandy vag much?

It's not even a GM issue, it's a Brembo issue. Brembo redesigned the caliper and now they're good to go. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if GM issues a TSB on them and upgrades free of charge.

Hugh automaker has minor design flaw, it's happened before...
so your telling me that brembo sent a friggin box to to gm with wheel weights on it?? dont think so. try agian.

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motoman399 wrote: so your telling me that brembo sent a friggin box to to gm with wheel weights on it?? dont think so. try agian.
actually brembo told GM to put them on there :slap:

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tigersharkdude wrote:
motoman399 wrote: so your telling me that brembo sent a friggin box to to gm with wheel weights on it?? dont think so. try agian.
actually brembo told GM to put them on there :slap:
ok so let me get this right.. gm builds a car. buys brakes from brembo. brakes squeal, and brembo says slap some lead weights on it. and gm still used brembo brakes. ultimate fail!

still dont believe that brembo told them to put wheel weights on them..

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thats why the problem was fixed ASAP. You honestly don;t think the newer cars have weights on the brakes do you? I know my buddies doesn't and he's had it for a while

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^^ i think i read in there that not all of them had it. even still its hoopty

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Maybe it's just me but I don't see why this is so amazingly bad.

Sounds like some b**** asses had a problem with brake squeal and Brembo found a cheap solution to tie things over for the time being.

Ghetto engineering for the win, I'm sure they've found a more 'elegant' solution by now.

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motoman399 wrote:^^ i think i read in there that not all of them had it. even still its hoopty
no its not? its a legitimate short term fix to a production problem. i will bet you money brembo told gm to do the wheel weights.

p.s. learn to spell camaro. you cant talk s*** and disrespect a car if you dont even know how to spell it.

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my bad, i miss spelled something. wasnt the first time and sure as hell wont be the last. thanks for the correction though.

ps i failed english :) im a better mechanic than a writer.

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i seriously doubt it if you are trying to disrespect a automotive manufacturer for a PARTS error from a 3rd party company.

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all im saying is that if you were building a car and you paid some company to get their parts and they were half assed, would you run them? sure as hell not! if its temp or not, it puts a bad name to the main company, not to who they bought the parts from. so yes GM is at fault 100%. just a few years and they will be wanting another government grant so they can build some crap car.

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motoman399 wrote:all im saying is that if you were building a car and you paid some company to get their parts and they were half assed, would you run them?
What else are they supposed to do? These aren't off-the-shelf parts GM ordered on ebay. They're Brembos designed for the Camaro. The Camaro is designed for the Brembos. You don't just say "hey, look, a minor, non-functional defect...let's just grab one of the other boxes we have on the shelf that fits and meets the same performance specs for the Camaro SS." Because there aren't other boxes. The Brembos are THE part. If there's a serious issue, you do a recall, or retrofit, but if it's something minor like that, you just fit what you've got and improve the next batch.

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Joe wrote:i seriously doubt it if you are trying to disrespect a automotive manufacturer for a PARTS error from a 3rd party company.
Get off your damn high horse Joe. So the guy made a judgment call...

GM is flawless until now, I mean, right?

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my high horse? he is the one who said;

"so yes GM is at fault 100%. just a few years and they will be wanting another government grant so they can build some crap car."

give me a break.

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kouki owners :tisk:

i had a whole reply set up in my head, but everything has been covered already.

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numbnuts240 wrote:kouki owners :tisk:

i had a whole reply set up in my head, but everything has been covered already.
240 kids...if it isnt nissan, it's crap :rolleyes:

edit - not you tita

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
What else are they supposed to do? These aren't off-the-shelf parts GM ordered on ebay. They're Brembos designed for the Camaro. The Camaro is designed for the Brembos. You don't just say "hey, look, a minor, non-functional defect...let's just grab one of the other boxes we have on the shelf that fits and meets the same performance specs for the Camaro SS." Because there aren't other boxes. The Brembos are THE part. If there's a serious issue, you do a recall, or retrofit, but if it's something minor like that, you just fit what you've got and improve the next batch.
^This.

I deal with supplier quality issues every day and have for more years than I like to count. If it's a minor flaw, does not affect safety or overall product quality, it's not worth the cost of a recall and you get the supplier to implement an improvement plan. I guarantee you that the brakes were designed using GM specs (it would take joint product development to produce calipers like these), and there were obviously process errors on both sides if the design got blessed and rushed into production without proper testing. Finger-pointing would only result in both companies getting the finger.

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motoman399 wrote:so i was trying to find some rear brembo calipers and i stumbled upon this forum talking about wheel weights on the calipers of the new cameros. i cant believe it. GM did it agian. f**king ghetto, i hate GM they are a horrible manufacture. they went under, got bailed out and now are producing shotty craftsmanship. it wont be long before people stop buying their cars again.

anyways heres the link
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19161

enjoy :lolling:
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Thats a pretty serious Fail.
I don't think GM thought this through very well.

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Nissan should be shut down for all their serious fails, too. Obama should do soemthings!

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numbnuts240 wrote:kouki owners :tisk:
Strike one. :squint:

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The only thing I have left to say to the OP is.....stop *****ing about it, seriously. Its not like you have one, so why worry about it? AND GM originally didnt plan on a 2010 release (2012 IIRC) they pushed that car out fast because of the current market situation. PLUS you never buy the first year of a redesign, there is always things wrong with those cars. And if ppl want to complain there is an easy solution......take the wheel weights off! /thread


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