RB26DETT pricing?!?!

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I need some major help here. I found one with a gtr front mount and RB25 trans. How much Would you pay it!?! How much do they run about. I'm really serious about joining the RB camp. I know RB25 prices but the RB26 seems like a totally different ball game!! :help me.


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"How much do they run about."

I don't think there is any real running price on them considering they aren't sold alot here in the US. It's basically whatever the person wants to sell it for. I've seen typical prices out there (4500-7000$).. but no one has really layed down a firm price. Now if you were asking what a Integra Type R engine generally runs, then you might get the answer you're looking for because everyone markets those engines, and there is more of an average price on them.

You also didn't mention if this beast is coming in a clip or just as a motor set. And that matters, because there are other parts on clips that don't come with swaps. And since there is an RB25 transmission involved in this, that also plays with the price a little bit IMO.

If you're mentioning a motor set/swap I wouldn't pay more than 4500-5000$ on it depending on it's condition...

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It genarally called a motor kit / swap. Not a clip. It comes with an R33 motor , R32 trans , GTR fmic and everything to get it started. Basically its a clip without the clip. I was also told the engine MIGHT come with "goodies" (double plate clucth , intake mani etc. , etc.) thanx for replying. I'm really stuck. It's either this or a S15 motor kit w/ a turbo header and a AFC for $3700.

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a r32 transmission on a GTR motor?

i wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole.

and "everything needed to get it started" is not enough to get it road worthy. you need aftermarket mounts, custom driveshaft, wiring (if you can do it yourself, good), fabricated downpipe, fuelpump etc etc

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Let me rephrase that. Rb26 engine w/ rb25 trans. Sorry for the confusion. How much?!? for it. That over stuff is trivial.

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UMM THAT IS PROBABLY A RB25DE TRANSMISSION.

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Whats wrong with the R32 trans? I think the RB25DE trans has the same internals as the RB20DET, which is weaker than the RB25DET internals but still good for close to 400 bhp.

Do you know how many miles are on the engine? I've seen them sold for anywhere from $4K to $6500 but as mentioned above the market is so small that its hard to pin down a good price. Paying 4 grand for a RB26 in poor condition is definately worse than paying 6500 for one in relatively good condition. Of course its hard to know the condition of an engine unless you get to run some tests on it yourself. Does the supplier at least give a "start-up garauntee"?

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I NEVER SAID THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT, I WAS CLARIFYING IT FOR KAMIN.

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Kamin wrote:a r32 transmission on a GTR motor?

i wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole.

and "everything needed to get it started" is not enough to get it road worthy. you need aftermarket mounts, custom driveshaft, wiring (if you can do it yourself, good), fabricated downpipe, fuelpump etc etc


i second that, you want the R33 rb25det transmission. the r32 25 transmission is not too good. the r33 transmission is stronger.

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the rb25det R33 transmission uses the same internals as the Z32 tt transmission, just different bellhousings to fit the rb, and the output shaft [yoke to driveshaft] im pretty sure is different also.

i was thinking about having a bellhousing made to fit a tremec T56 to the rb26 so i could have a 6 speed, but the original cost of the project would be higher, the gear ratios arent the best, so id have to swap rears, but the cost of replacing the transmission if i blow it up would be less in the long run because i could replace it with a unit thats in every junkyard in america. would reduce downtime in the event i f it up, but its just something to think about.

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the cost of instalation would also go up because your gonna have to have a mount fabricated for the tremec. im probably just gonna stick with the rb transmission...

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dreamsofskylines, the rb20 transmission is good to about 400 crank you are correct. but translate that to wheel horsepower. around 350 right? thats not much over what a stock GTR makes once you start doing BPU's on it.

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I was quoted $6700 delivered to my front door. How's that!?!

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A shade on the high side imo, if it was an RB25DET transmission, then MAYBE but I still think thats an insane amount of money for a motor set.

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last time i checked [its gonna be months before i get one though] the last company wanted 5500 + 250 shipping for a r33 gtr front clip, and a r32 rb25det motor, transmission, and wiring harness. i figure ill sell the rb25 motor and the rb26 transmission. the r32 [rb25] trannies arent supposed to be as strong as r33 [rb25] trannies so i dont know about that. also, the z32 tt uses the same internals as the rb25 r33 transmission, but the cost of a bellhousing adapter would make it not worth it because then you could just mount a better transmission like a tremec or zf.

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something else to consider is the fact that supposedly the 87 to 89 Z31 300zx turbo transmissions are the same as the TT trannies. the SOHC VG motor was not available from 87 on in japan, so the stateside turbo 300's got the TT transmission. don't know if its true or not, but worth a look as the SOHC trannys are cheap as hell.

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arent the z32 trannies one piece units, or are the bellhousings removable? because, if your gonna go through the trouble of having a bellhousing made, id go with a tremec T56 or a zf unit...

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IvoryJ30t wrote:last time i checked [its gonna be months before i get one though] the last company wanted 5500 + 250 shipping for a r33 gtr front clip, and a r32 rb25det motor, transmission, and wiring harness. i figure ill sell the rb25 motor and the rb26 transmission. the r32 [rb25] trannies arent supposed to be as strong as r33 [rb25] trannies so i dont know about that. also, the z32 tt uses the same internals as the rb25 r33 transmission, but the cost of a bellhousing adapter would make it not worth it because then you could just mount a better transmission like a tremec or zf.


huh?!there is no r32 rb25

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Thanks guys for all the super helpful info. You all have sucessfully swayed my interest in the RB26. It just seems like there is to much drama. And that price is too high I guess. So now I guess I'm going to have to do the three day special. SR swap. An S15 swap to be exact. turbo header w/ afc shipped for $3700. I have seen the light. Rb26 = the best , but it sucks getting it in your car. Darn I really wanted to smoke everyone here!!! No one has it here yet. Oh well. You guys are downers!!!!haha. bye bye RB forum for now!

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whats wrong with the rb25? plenty of headroom and less hassle than making an s15 sr20 work right.

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I'm back and I have found another one for $5000 shipped. But I don't know the year or what it is out of. I don't think it comes with the gtr intercooler either.

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im just going to go with the clip, so theres nothing missing, and i know the mileage. id rather do extra work and have extra pieces than be missing something.

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Do you mean rb25 clip or rb26 clip. No one seems to talk about the rb26 swap. I think with an rb26 you can't get it as a clip because of the 4w drive trans. It would be impractical to buy a rb26 clip and then an rb25 trans seperately. But that would totally be the way to go if you could afford it! But it is so true, if something is missing from a motorset you're in big trouble! But what can you do if you're not rich! haha.

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im not rich. i just enjoy spending money. i work a ton to get the money i love to spend.

and yeah, its a shame that the perfectly good transmission im gonna get when i get my clip is gonna have to be swapped for a rb25det unit.

im gonna try to sell it on ebay.

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Kamin wrote:huh?!there is no r32 rb25


there is, RB25DE, but their is not such thing is R32 RB25DET

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so the rwd transmission to have is the r33 rb25det

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you know, im wondering if you couldnt modify the six speed to make it work. if you could pull of the center diff and fabricate a plate to take its place with a hole and seal for the shaft...

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the problem with that is there is no center diff. its a clutch pack that drives a chain, that drives the front driveshaft. you cant remove that portion of the transmission without some major fabrication. not to mention the shifter is mounted to that portion of the trans.

of thought about that alot, and the only real way to do it is to remove the chain [optional] and seal the output for the front driveshaft [mandatory]

you would probably be better off trying to modify a supra 6 speed to work.

also, the r34 uses a 3.545 final drive ratio.

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i believe that technically it is a center diff and not a transfer case as it is not a hard connection like a typical two speed transfer case. seeing as it has a clutch pack i think it would be a center diff. anyway, i have taken them off other nissan trannies for service and it may be feasable to block it off altogether. i have never seen one in real life of course. i have heard that the gtr transmission is made by getrag and if so parts may interchange with the supra six speed. now i am way out on a limb. it nice out here though.

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its fun to break new ground, isnt it...


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