RB26 SSAutochrome manifolds?

[onefastrb26]

Are they good/ok? How do they fit in the S13? Does the wastegate pipe clear the steering?I have heard good things of the manifolds on the RB20/25, but on the 26...

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[lucky7]

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[onefastrb26]

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I know about their reputation. I have experienced several manifolds crack on SR20s. This post is pretty old though.

I have heard some positive things about them on RB engines though. Actually, I think Yellow4G63 has one on his car, and he is pretty happy with it. I think that was him, if I remember correctly.

[Nameless EJ6]

I doubt many people are using them on the 26. Most people with this motor don't like putting crap products to use on it. I sure as hell wouldn't.

maybe you should try it and report back when it cracks.

[T4 RB25det]

I have heard of many people using them on all different motors and never ahving a problem with them as long as you re-weld the manifold and brace it properly. The biggest problem is that no one really makes anything for RB motors so we kinda gotta either take what we can get or order it from over seas. I ordered mine from thailand and it took 3 months to get here

[lucky7]

i just found that phase 2 now stocks a 25 manifold. i forget what brand it is. i have yet to hear any reviews on it. i wanna say its like $1k. so its lower end in price compaired to what i have seen. hopefully its not crap like the SS manifolds.

[T4 RB25det]

I have the same one that is on phase 2, it didnt come braced like that tho. But so far so good. it weighs about 3 times as much as the ssac that i had that i was going to put on.

[onefastrb26]

I doubt many people are using them on the 26. Most people with this motor don't like putting crap products to use on it. I sure as hell wouldn't.

maybe you should try it and report back when it cracks.

I agree with you, but the SSAutochrome is $100, versus the HKS/Greddy are $1200+.

I have seen only 1 used HKS and one used Greddy on ebay, and they were gone in a day, for about $700 each.

I guess I will buy the SS, brace it, and let you know how it goes. I'd love to put an HKS manifold, but that is too much for me right now...

[Imissmyturbo]

I am temped to do the same but I would like to know if the wastgate pipes clear the steering shaft.

[Yellow4g63]

I know about their reputation. I have experienced several manifolds crack on SR20s. This post is pretty old though.

I have heard some positive things about them on RB engines though. Actually, I think Yellow4G63 has one on his car, and he is pretty happy with it. I think that was him, if I remember correctly.

Nope not me someone else has one on there car I can't rem his name either.

[scottsi]

I agree with you, but the SSAutochrome is $100, versus the HKS/Greddy are $1200+.

I have seen only 1 used HKS and one used Greddy on ebay, and they were gone in a day, for about $700 each.

I guess I will buy the SS, brace it, and let you know how it goes. I'd love to put an HKS manifold, but that is too much for me right now...

im most likely going to try it out aswell, i can get it for damn cheap, aswell as an SS auto turbo, and some people have had luck with them. and even if the manifold doesnt fit, i'll modify it to fit. i recomend having the flanges resurfaced though

[Yellow4g63]

It's going to bite you in the arse in the long run. If it's too good to be true it prob is. Just use the stock manifold if you want to go cheap.

[T4 RB25det]

If you want a good manifold i would stick to the phase 2, there is one on ebay right now for $600 and so far its working for me. mine didnt come braced like the one on ebay, and they also dont give you a wastegate flange. but its pretty heavy and seems pretty sturdy from what i can tell. It is about the same price as the hks cast manifold

[lucky7]

dammit, any sure website to order this hks cast manifold? or do you just have to know someone, or scour ebay constantly?

[T4 RB25det]

I used to see them on ebay brand new all the time, i dont know what happened to that. I can ask the guy who got all my parts that are hard time find (cams, turbo, ect.) And see if he can seem to get ahold of one

[scottsi]

im a very stubborn person. and it has bitten me in the *** before (venom injectors GRR) but ive used a SS auto manifold before with a 60 trim t3 and it never broke. I will rebrace it and support the turbo. and custom dp/intake pipe/ charge pipe wll be as easy, if not easier to make than with the stock turbo manifold. i'll keep everyone posted when and if i get the manifold

[Yellow4g63]

im a very stubborn person. and it has bitten me in the *** before (venom injectors GRR) but ive used a SS auto manifold before with a 60 trim t3 and it never broke. I will rebrace it and support the turbo. and custom dp/intake pipe/ charge pipe wll be as easy, if not easier to make than with the stock turbo manifold. i'll keep everyone posted when and if i get the manifold

Using the stock exhaust manifold is very easy.

You would need to weld a wastegate flange onto the cast iron manifold but thats about it. Unless you have a RB26 then your SOL.

[onefastrb26]

not on a RB26 though

Using the stock exhaust manifold is very easy.

You would need to weld a wastegate flange onto the cast iron manifold but thats about it. Unless you have a RB26 then your SOL.

[Nameless EJ6]

I'm laughing at the people who put crap on their expensive motors.

You really think they've done much r&d on the design of those manifolds? Look into the flanges on them, it's not pretty. Compared to Jap companies like HKS, Greddy, etc... they are crap. That's why the name SSAutocrap originiated... form people who have had them fail. And that is why you usually pay top dollar for tried and true manifolds that have been in production for over a decade.

Bracing is nice.. sure, and doible welding is dandy, but the material and workmanship that went into that product before you bought it, is crap... therefore, you're fixing crap for your motor.. when you don't even know if it's going to fail on you down the line.

Good lucks.

[BoostFab]

I'm laughing at the people who put crap on their expensive motors.

absolutely! i really don't understand, spending 3-4g for a motor setup, then cheap out on a critical component.

[Imissmyturbo]

Look at it this way. I can get this manifold for $100. Get everything setup and run it. If it breaks big deal. I now have a manifold that can be copied using better materials.

[Nameless EJ6]

Look at it this way. I can get this manifold for $100. Get everything setup and run it. If it breaks big deal. I now have a manifold that can be copied using better materials.

I've already looked at it that way. First of all, I wouldn't copy their design. No matter how appealing it is. Second, if I were to copy their design, after reading about all the drama regarding their products and seeing the pics, I would copy it after purchase and NEVER use their manifold on my motor. BUt the truth there is that I would rather but a better manifold, copy it, and sell the manifold leaving me with what I made.

But hey... that's just me.

[scottsi]

some people are bias and have buttloads of cash, some people are bias and have no cash, and their cars are slow, and other people like to go against what the bias people say and prove them wrong. but at times they get proven wrong, and other times theyre right. take the path least traveled.

[Nameless EJ6]

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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1344467

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918

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[scottsi]

ive actually used that manifold for my old old old honda turbo project, and it worked nicely, supported a 60 trim t3 taht is far from lite.

[onefastrb26]

I'm laughing at the people who put crap on their expensive motors.

You really think they've done much r&d on the design of those manifolds? Look into the flanges on them, it's not pretty. Compared to Jap companies like HKS, Greddy, etc... they are crap. That's why the name SSAutocrap originiated... form people who have had them fail. And that is why you usually pay top dollar for tried and true manifolds that have been in production for over a decade.

Bracing is nice.. sure, and doible welding is dandy, but the material and workmanship that went into that product before you bought it, is crap... therefore, you're fixing crap for your motor.. when you don't even know if it's going to fail on you down the line.

Good lucks.

For $100, it does not matter to me if it cracks. I want to get the car running on that setup, and then I can order an HKS manifold or whatever. I have already put 15K miles on the stock turbos, and have all the supporting mods for a single turbo.

I am not cheap, but I have two projects, so my budget is tight. I'd rather spend the money on pistons/rods/JUN cams/ etc.

[Nameless EJ6]

For $100, it does not matter to me if it cracks. I want to get the car running on that setup, and then I can order an HKS manifold or whatever. I have already put 15K miles on the stock turbos, and have all the supporting mods for a single turbo.

I am not cheap, but I have two projects, so my budget is tight. I'd rather spend the money on pistons/rods/JUN cams/ etc.

So.. if you're planning on upgrading the manifold/s later, why are you going to purchase the SSA units again? 100$ to me, I'd rather put that towards the high end products later on and run the stockers till then.

[themadscientist]

that's a bit more than a "crack" don't ya think?

[Yellow4g63]

that's a bit more than a "crack" don't ya think?

"It's just a flesh wound"

[CursedGTR]

Holy crap that is some massive failure. I know alot of guys here in Japan that even think Greddy Manifolds are cheap crap (it is due to the lack of wall thickness on the tubes used).

I would have to agree though, you get what you pay for and with welding costs, labor and materials plus other company overhead averaged into the cost of these manifolds you really have to wonder what it is made out of. I would venture to say that you are going to experience failure. I base this on the fact that prime exhaust gas temperature for optimal power on the RB26DETT is somewhere around 850 celcius (just an average that I have seen be applied over the past few years) it is probably too damn hot for a cheap thin walled crap manifold. But hey at least it will look good, until the turbo falls off.