RB Summary for SCC

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
Flamereka
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Here is another valid point though guys. The more coverage 240's get the higher the demand and hence the value of your car will be higher. Truly this thread is just a ricer bashing column in disguise.

From what I know about the rb swap.1) get a clip as you need crossmember2) not sure if it is the stock 240 or the rb transmission mount but, I hear you can just flip it around and it fits.3) wiring shouldn't be that hard with a service manual4) SEARCH THR POSTS: all info I have is from this forum. the 8 steps to a RB is a very, very good post.

And to Dave, If you guys would wanna sponsor me (Full or Partial) I'd be willing to take mega pictures of the install and possibly even video it. I have a pretty clean 1996 240 now. I'd like a RB25DET. P.S. Sorry for the the shameless plug For my hearbreaking desire for an RB.


BlockHead
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oh oh and I have an S13 :D and I hear stickers add horsepower

chaosnite
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wait wait wait.. i know how to settle this.. just let me get my project 240sx done and then we can print the article.. then I can show off to my friends and gf how much of a trendsetter I am! better yet feature my car in the article- mine, mine! come on-- you know you want to, plus it's just another reason to come down to Vegas ;)

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I still think we'd be better off just putting up a FAQ on it on this site, and leaving it at that. If someone wants to do an RB swap, they can come here and read about it. Putting it in a magazine will make things worse.

Joe
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Yep i agree with you.but there is nothing we can do, if SCC wants to do an article they will do it. whatever sells a magazine right? not what will keep thigs in balance.

once the mainstream gets ahold of this, **** will hit the fan.

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ACtuallly if you keep it scientifically intensive and heavy with technical details ricers won't bother

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Thats the thing I hate about the magazines, if it'll help sales then why not. I gaurentee there will be bad info on the article about the swap, or something that will be not so right, and will throw something off. I think if they do it, they should wait until it's a more widely knwn thing. That way the info will be correct.

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lessthanjakejohn - yes you are right, if SCC uses big words they dont understand we wont have a problem.

Nismo i agree, this swap is still in its infancy for gods sake, if this article gets published before at LEAST a large comminity information website gets going, so many people will get lost and not know how to do it.

Nismo241
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I could honestly guide a retard through an RB20 swap into a 89-90 240sx over the phone, but why...ya know, just because you can doesn't mean you should. they should respect the majority decision, which seems to be that it wouldn't be a good idea. Feature cars with the swap, by all means, but why do a tech article...maybe so everyone thinks they know what they are doing??? Oh well.

DarkParadigm1
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seems to me that the way to make this community grow is to spread the knowledge of its existence, make it more widely known. and about the costs of the swap goin up...yeah they would if the RB swaps became more popular. but so what? there arent that many people out there interested in the work involved and i personally dont think that that many ricers have the funds required. they are more content with their hondas with the crapass mufflers etc... and as someone before stated, the more demand for the RB series engines, the more demand for the parts for them. making it easier to get the stuff for the engines if they break. anyway, just my .02

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Nameless EJ6
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I can see it now:

RB25DET = 9000$RB26DETT = 14000$

DarkParadigm1
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haha dont we all wish

Nismo241
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NightXCZ77 wrote:
My RB swaps use a simple ignition integration which allows you to use the RB gauges in KM/H correct speed. It also allows you to read engine temp, oil gauges etc....without any fancy extra chips or modules.

No way is "better" than the other, it is mainly about personal preference.

Night


Yeah, but the way you do it leaves a mess of wires hanging by the passengers feet, and another fuse block under the hood.

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slw240sx
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that can easily be cleaned up !!!!!

any how hay dave how bout doin a article about the long forgoten motor the Ca18det!! ill let you use my car for the article!!

Doogz
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Keep him away from the CA!!!

modreadz
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hey dave coleman... I'd hate to say this and might get flamed for it but your magazine belongs no where near a technical project. What i mean is you guys hype something up in the magazine to appeal to the "ricers" 'n such. Sure ur magazine sells, and did for me, but that was the reason for me to cancel the subsrciption. Sure you guys got some humorous articles, but some are way out of line. Most articles contain slurs i often see in elementary written essays. Just my 2 cents. In conclusion don't put this swap in your magazine. Leave the 240 owners to whats real, and what's left over for honda (ricer) owners to have let them keep. Peace

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Cattalbus
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not exacly sure why a honda makes you a ricer. but i will agree with the other items modreadz wrote, magazines can't afford to be technical you cram a whole books worth of information into 4 pages with pictures. it can't be take seriously. it is entertainment and a great starting point for enthusiast. I will read you magazine however some of your sister publications are trash. Super street is written like utter crap. I can't beleive any intelligent person would let them publish that rag. as for the import tuner, lets just say it has more rice than uncle ben, no way could I take it seriously now I'll read it for fun but never for info. undoubtedly SCC is the best of them all, just it can cover the info needed to become a technical swap magazine, too many advertisements. I subscribe and will continue to. just don't write about difficult swaps and expect it to make the import nation better. if they needed to learn it they would search for a forum like Nico and read it for themselves. after all there are some 10 different forums devoted to 240's and all their possible engine choices. Good luck Dave.

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NightXCZ77 wrote:
#2 It will strike fear into every Honda owner in America as it already did every Honda in my town and I am sure in many others where these cars now exist.

#3 It may not drive up costs...as I see it, the more you sell, the more sales and discounts you can give because you are obviously in a better position. If say Myself or Mack, or Unstable even....after this article we sell 15 clips a month instead of 7....that's double the clips....now, if you want to be greedy, you can up the price, or you can be reasonable and lower it $200 or so and save the community money because you are prosperous.


I love those 2 points. #2 will have them so scared#3 is especially great cuz I'm a broke bastard

apex_7
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I was kind of wondering when their would be a 240 w/ an RB swap in these magazines.

Dave,Your mag rocks. I like all the technical info that SuperStreet just doesn't have. I have an RB20. I paid under $2000 to get it to my door. I used the RB20 X-member; it bolts right in. It's actually a very simple swap- the wiring isn't very fun though. ~Tony

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Has anyone here even noticed yet that he never posted again?? I think you guys are basically talking to yourselves... also I think the Rb25 and 26 are too expensive for the masses. People won't mob an Rb20 since *flame shield up* a decently modded integra GSR engine in a civic is probably similar in power/speed to a stock RB20.

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:rotflmao Oh dear lord please tell me you are kidding.

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About what?

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Bryson wrote:Has anyone here even noticed yet that he never posted again?? I think you guys are basically talking to yourselves... also I think the Rb25 and 26 are too expensive for the masses. People won't mob an Rb20 since *flame shield up* a decently modded integra GSR engine in a civic is probably similar in power/speed to a stock RB20.
that:rolleyes

JESTER
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HeeeeHeeee.

op.tic
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i would personally not like to see a story about swapping an RB series engine into a 240, i like to keep this swap info "underground" if you know what i mean... before i heard about swapping a rb i heard about the sr, which isnt that bad, but before i heard about the sr i was into b18s and stuff, and i can asure you if this story was in a magazine everyone i know with a honda would sell it and buy a 240 and swap the rb

apex_7
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Do you know of a person w/ a stock RB20 in a 240sx?:rolleyes

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Underground = less info and help on the swap, more difficult/longer times to get engines, more difficult/expensive to get parts.

Even if every honda guy wanted to do this swap, they wouldn't be able to get a 240 cause no one would want there honda so they wouldn't be able to afford it, and there really aren't that many 240s out there. That would probably be one of the main problems that would happen, the shortage of useable 240s would decrease and the price would go up.

Bryson
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Ya I definetly agree with Chachi, 240s are not that easy to find :( I had to find mine about 250 miles from where I live. Ya Mad scientist, I dunno what I was thinkin....:)

apex_7
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chachi longshot wrote:Underground = less info and help on the swap, more difficult/longer times to get engines, more difficult/expensive to get parts.

Even if every honda guy wanted to do this swap, they wouldn't be able to get a 240 cause no one would want there honda so they wouldn't be able to afford it, and there really aren't that many 240s out there. That would probably be one of the main problems that would happen, the shortage of useable 240s would decrease and the price would go up.
i'm a former Honda guy. I found my 240 for $400. I don't regret getting a Honda. It helped me build equity to buy everything for the 240:D

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hashiriya13
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I have been watching this forum and I share some views but if SCC wants to do an article on the swap they will do it. Think about it. The number of people who post on this thread that want to keep it a secret will never compair to the amount of people who would want to read about the swap. Even if the article was badly written 99% of the readers would never even know. Oh and yes I would like to have the only 240 with the RB25 but I am not. I am just glad I have The RB every time I drive my 240.


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