Rb Series Debate

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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churro
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Ah, kids and their dreams. Good luck with that man, seriously.


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lucky7
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buy a solid, low mileage S chassis. put all the rest of the money in the bank. then find an investing company that is compitent, give all your money to them. they will make you money. my father died when i was a baby, left me a little bit of money. in the past year i turned it over to franklin templeton investments. so far, so good. they've made me about 2k in the past year alone. i also get monthly earnings statements so i can see exactly what is happening with it. tells me EXACTLY where i made/lost money, and how much. at this point, i dont plan on even touching it. i file the statements away in a file i've got. after that, i ignore it like it doesnt exist. you and i both know you have it, but get a solid car, and pretend that money doesnt exist.

sorry i went in another direction, but seriously. DO NOT blow it on a car.

as for engines, ive got a 25. i dont drift or anything like that, but i make right around 300 whp on the stock turbo. and let me tell you, thats MORE than enough to get it sideways, and keep it sideways.

first thing's first. learn how to drive a car. then worry about drifting. good luck.

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Rb26d Sileighty
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thanks for the advice dude. i was only planin on spendin 17000 on a car and put the rest in a bank or somethin where it can get interest and make money. but i dont get my cash until im 18 and im only 15. so i have 3 more years to make interest. but as of now im leanin towards the ls1 motor cuz its lighter than the ka24de. but really dude i appreciate the advice.

and btw nice kouki :]

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just to burst your LS1 bubble, the T56 transmission weighs about twice as much as the KA trans. so dont think you are actually losing weight by doing a LSx. its ****ING HEAVY im having to move mine all over the garage right now. makes a KA/SR trans look like a toy.

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Rb26d Sileighty
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yeah im aware of this. but it doesnt matter to me really. i know im not loosing too much weight by puttin the LS1 in but i literly mount a dodge viper transmission up. for 2200 i can get one. not saying im gonna get one but maybe in the future.........

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its the same transmission

they both use the T56.

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Rb26d Sileighty
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yeah that was my point.

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S14-NEO
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Rb26d Sileighty wrote:S14-Neo....thanks for your advice 1st of all. second i was thinkin the neo but dont really know too much about the. all i know is they have VVT and are a low emisions motor. if you could follow up with some specs and how much it was that would be greatly appreciated.
price might just piss ya off but i only paid 2800.00 shipped. the guy i bought it from made a mistake..lol oh well sucks to be him. as far as specs the majority of teh differences lye in the head itself..much more aggressive cams and solid lifters. they came with teh same power output on paper as the RB26 as well...but most of us know in here that the RB26 packed a bigger punch than advertised.

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Not trying to be a d!ck, just trying to save you a lot of wasted time and pipe dreams...If you are in hs, you do not have the financial ability to own and operate an RB-powered drift car. Listen to Carl (and myself) when we advise you to invest as much as you can as early as you can. I started when I was 17 and it was the best decision my parents ever helped me make. Spend a few grand getting that S13 and the suspension upgrades for drifting since that's what you want to do with it.

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Rb26d Sileighty wrote:well i was leain towards the Rb26 cuz its just a beast. but thanks for the help.

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I read half way threw this thing and couldn't bare to read anymore.

like it has been said before....INVEST!

I'm not going to try and drill it into your head, hence your probably too young to understand since your thinking on driving a "overpowered" vehicle as your first car.

put a downpayment on an MBA you'll never regret it.

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I mean guys the kid is 15 he will do what he will wanna do. He's a kid most of us know by now that the best decision would be investment but he doesn't. Most of us are going through real life because we are all at least 18 and older. I'm 20 myself. So let the kid do what he does best and thats have a good time being a kid. You can't make him grow up any faster than he can. The maturity and responsibility level that we possess just isn't there with a 15 year old (NO OFFENSE TO THE KID). Cuz in the end its what he wants. And i figure he will do something smart with some of this money i highly doubt his mother will let him spend that money regardless and like he said thats 3 years from now his priorities will change by then. And no this is not to thrash at someone, just saying. The kid ask about what swap would be best not a spanking lession in investment.

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Well just a quick thought for you, when you're 21 just finished two years of school and your school decides to just not bother finding you a job, (when you spent 30k for them to do just that) Spending all my free money over the last year on a car in retrospective was the most retarded idea. I have an RB in the driveway, still haven't got it running perfect and it'd sure as heck be nice to have some of that 8k I put in the car back in the account earning 5%. Just saying keep that in mind.

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You can be a pro drifter easier than you think. Dont let anyone... especially an older man that wants to drift... tell you that you cant.

If a pro drifter is what you want to be then BE THAT ****. I just hope you got the time and money.

You are gonna need to budget that 35k properly. The key is to get noticed and land a sponsor 1/2 way type deal.

GOOD LUCK AND LIVE YOUR DREAM!

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blurrbosi wrote:You can be a pro drifter easier than you think. Dont let anyone... especially an older man that wants to drift... tell you that you cant.

If a pro drifter is what you want to be then BE THAT ****. I just hope you got the time and money.
im not gonna go list off my accomplishments to some random people on the internet. but just for a little bit of reference i do hold a professional license (even if it is a ****ty one) and am sponsored by Cooper tires. so i have a little bit of first hand experience. even tho i am only just entering the "pro" level myself, i do somewhat understand what path has to be taken so please dont belittle me by saying someone who "wants" to drift.

im not some random ******* trying to crush his dreams. at 15 years old he may not even WANT to drift once he realizes how steep the learning curve is. it takes a LONG time to get good at drifting especially with no performance driving background because not only does he have to learn how to drift, he has to learn racing technique too with line, entry, cornering, linking, etc. if he had already been drifting for a year or two and said "id like to go pro" GREAT! go for it! ill share whatever knowledge i have on the subject and guide him in the best path to take for what he wants to do. i never said he CANT be a pro drifter, im trying to help him be realistic and not just have blown out of proportion dreams.

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Kamin wrote:im not gonna go list off my accomplishments to some random people on the internet. but just for a little bit of reference i do hold a professional license (even if it is a ****ty one) and am sponsored by Cooper tires. so i have a little bit of first hand experience. even tho i am only just entering the "pro" level myself
Very true Kamin and you have been at this for awhile. You are young man stick that $$ aside and use a few grand to get the S13 driftable. I understand your need for power and what not but a RB is a whole other nightmare when it comes to maintence on the motor/trans itself. If you do a RB swap being 15. Prolly no job you will hate it when it comes time to replace some out of the way part and the car is just sitting. Read around here for a year or so get your knowledge about motors cost of repair etc. then do a swap a KA24DE with tasteful mods will be enough power for a beginner. TRUST US WE KNOW OUT S#!T

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Rb26d Sileighty wrote:i probably wouldn't make it over 350 for drifting.
Then just go sr, it doesn't make any sense to go rb if you're not going to use it properly.

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coreansurfer wrote:
Then just go sr, it doesn't make any sense to go rb if you're not going to use it properly.
+1

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Rb26d Sileighty
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Darius wrote:Not trying to be a d!ck, just trying to save you a lot of wasted time and pipe dreams...If you are in hs, you do not have the financial ability to own and operate an RB-powered drift car. Listen to Carl (and myself) when we advise you to invest as much as you can as early as you can. I started when I was 17 and it was the best decision my parents ever helped me make. Spend a few grand getting that S13 and the suspension upgrades for drifting since that's what you want to do with it.
Darius thanks for the support. im only spending 20000 out of my 35000 i have to use. so id put the rest in an interst gaining bank or whatever and let it sit and gain interest. but thanks.

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Rb26d Sileighty
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lazyboi444 wrote:I mean guys the kid is 15 he will do what he will wanna do. He's a kid most of us know by now that the best decision would be investment but he doesn't. Most of us are going through real life because we are all at least 18 and older. I'm 20 myself. So let the kid do what he does best and thats have a good time being a kid. You can't make him grow up any faster than he can. The maturity and responsibility level that we possess just isn't there with a 15 year old (NO OFFENSE TO THE KID). Cuz in the end its what he wants. And i figure he will do something smart with some of this money i highly doubt his mother will let him spend that money regardless and like he said thats 3 years from now his priorities will change by then. And no this is not to thrash at someone, just saying. The kid ask about what swap would be best not a spanking lession in investment.
Thanks for the support but i was gonna invest anyways. i mean i might be 15 but ive seen my friends go into MAD debt and what not. im gonna work hard till im 18 get my s13, my swap (whatever it may be) and then go from there.

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Rb26d Sileighty
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blurrbosi wrote:You can be a pro drifter easier than you think. Dont let anyone... especially an older man that wants to drift... tell you that you cant.

If a pro drifter is what you want to be then BE THAT ****. I just hope you got the time and money.

You are gonna need to budget that 35k properly. The key is to get noticed and land a sponsor 1/2 way type deal.

GOOD LUCK AND LIVE YOUR DREAM!
thanks alot. and i really want to be a pro drifter but like u said im gonna need time and money which will all pay off if i do become a pro or will be the worst idea if i dont. and yes i am putting 15000 of my 35000 away cuz im not spending it ALL on a car like my older brother did with his car. but thanks alot man i appreciate it.

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Honestly, I think this has more to do with the poon that comes with owning a nice drift-looking car with power at 18 y.o. and wanting to jump on the drift bandwagon, but thats on you.

The way I see it, you have 20,000 to do what you want, your best bet (since you dont know this side of it), is to spend the majority of it on a daily driver, something pimp but on the cheap side (IS300? GS300? LS430?), then spend the rest on a track car you can beat the crap out of and still get to work on monday.

Shyt, if youre going to be going to events and what not pretty regularly, spend 10k on a truck, 2k on a trailer, and 7k on a car. Then save at least 1k for your first years worth of parts and fixes, and get a tire sponsor so you can afford events

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[QUOTE=skillzilla]Honestly, I think this has more to do with the poon that comes with owning a nice drift-looking car with power at 18 y.o. and wanting to jump on the drift bandwagon, but thats on you.

im not jumping on the "drifting bandwagon"

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your 15 and are talking about being a pro drifter, sorry you jumped on it lol

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Rb26d Sileighty
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ok so me wanting to drift makes me become on a drifting bandwagon? that makes no sence.

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nevermind dude lol

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Rb26d Sileighty
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alright but im not one of those kids that saw tokyo drift and said oh i want to do that. i was into drifting WAY before that movie was even thought about. and i do know about drifting and all the importaint people. and when did this turn into a hate on the 15 year old kid? this was an rb series question. not oh lets hate on this kid cuz hes young.

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churro
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Kamin wrote:your 15 and are talking about being a pro drifter, sorry you jumped on it lol



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Rb26d Sileighty
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how is that owned? seriously i know what i want to do in life. i asked for opinion on motors not being told that i jumped on a bandwagon.

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Look at it this way. Once you find out what girls have......you won't even care about drifitng.


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