RB + Cali Smog Info

[WelfareRacing]

How tough, how much work, and how possable is it to smog an rb powered s14?

[Joe]

not legal.

[WelfareRacing]

would it "pass" given a "smog" related to a "friend" hookup? i.e. passing non visual, but ppm on co and nox type testing?

[Joe]

"yes"

but if your "friend" looses his "job" your hookup goes "away" and your "f***"

dont do an engine swap because you have a temporary hookup at emissions.

[sean8564]

that is right so you need to move out to the east coast where people do not care and you do not get ****ed by so many stupid *** laws

[AR31TU]

There's always a hookup. You gotta pay to play. if you have a working cat, the car might pass by the numbers, but nobody on the forum has said anything about it. One of my friends smogs his SR regularly.

I'd rather not move to some place that's too hot in the summer, too cold in the winter and where the meixcan food sucks "just" to drive a car with a motor swap. That's just me though.

[WelfareRacing]

There's always a hookup. You gotta pay to play. if you have a working cat, the car might pass by the numbers, but nobody on the forum has said anything about it. One of my friends smogs his SR regularly.

I'd rather not move to some place that's too hot in the summer, too cold in the winter and where the meixcan food sucks "just" to drive a car with a motor swap. That's just me though.

it is "possable" to pass by the numbers? and, no way no how could i move to somewhere with "crappy" mexican food.

[masticatingcow]

In "California," you "can't" pass "on" numbers "because" of "the" visual "inspection."

Sorry man, had to.

Anyway, wait for your smog to come up and go in with the KA. That way, you'll have tags for two years or until you get caught. That's also two years to figure out another place to smog.

Swapping in CA is a calculated risk. No matter what lengths you go to, it's still illegal to have swapped engines in a street car.

[RB280SX]

that is right so you need to move out to the east coast where people do not care and you do not get ****ed by so many stupid *** laws

I actually want an ozone layer protecting me from harmful rays when I get older... Smogging is here for a reason, and people don't seem to understand that it doesn't exist so that people can't do motor swaps, but so that the environment stays clean and healthy for your sake. The ozone layer is also not something that can repair itself quickly, meaning that even a minor excess of smog can delay the recovery process by a crutiating factor.

[wawazat8402]

so that the environment stays clean and healthy for your sake.

I would have a much more positive view if the gov't legitimately wanted to help the environment. Instead they put these laws that turn into more taxes for us that really dont do much on their own. Truly wanting to save the environment means more than just hooking up a sniffer to our exhaust. I agree that it is a significant part, but it doesnt really do much without other changes as well.

To stay with the topic, however, I agree that its kind of risky to make such a major illegal modification to your means of transportation based on a current hookup.

[WelfareRacing]

In "California," you "can't" pass "on" numbers "because" of "the" visual "inspection."

Sorry man, had to.

Anyway, wait for your smog to come up and go in with the KA. That way, you'll have tags for two years or until you get caught. That's also two years to figure out another place to smog.

Swapping in CA is a calculated risk. No matter what lengths you go to, it's still illegal to have swapped engines in a street car.

ok, my root question way back was meant to ask you all, and now i guess i can re iterate it in a more understandable manner.

if i go to smog a swaped car via a friend who will overlook the visual inspection, can the car pass on numbers only? would cali see the info from the test as being within limits?

[Joe]

of course it can pass numbers.

im telling you this from experience. do NOT swap because you think you may have a temporary hookup at emissions.

what do you think is gonna happen if you get pulled over, the cop asks you to pop your hood, he dosent recognize anything and then sends you to a BAR ref? thats not your friend. you will be royally ****ed. you think they arent gonna start profiling 240's soon? that damn movie will be out in a month so expect some serious heat in your smog nazi state very soon.

[WelfareRacing]

In "California," you "can't" pass "on" numbers "because" of "the" visual "inspection."

Sorry man, had to.

Anyway, wait for your smog to come up and go in with the KA. That way, you'll have tags for two years or until you get caught. That's also two years to figure out another place to smog.

Swapping in CA is a calculated risk. No matter what lengths you go to, it's still illegal to have swapped engines in a street car.

ok, so my question then is if one could "pass" visual thru a friend, would an RB swapped s14 pass smog "sniffer" test?

[masticatingcow]

As long as it runs as cleanly as an S14 KA24DE.

[WelfareRacing]

As long as it runs as cleanly as an S14 KA24DE.

Thats what ive been asking, now it looks like i can ask again.

"Does an RB Series engine run as cleanly in stock form as a KA24DE ?

[masticatingcow]

Thats what ive been asking, now it looks like i can ask again.

"Does an RB Series engine run as cleanly in stock form as a KA24DE ?

Which RB engine are you talking about?

And you haven't asked this question yet, so if you think we're giving you dodgey answers, take a minute to go over your posts. We've been pretty helpful all things considered.

People have had these motors pass the sniffer. I remember threads by several members saying so, though I honestly, don't have the time or interest to search for them.

Stock for stock? Who knows? I know of stock KAs that don't pass. It has everything to do with your tuning and fuel. Good luck.

[hazw8st]

RB: There is always a middle ground that can be taken when dealing with emissions and horsepower. An RB motor can be installed with all the emissions controls, and pass the sniffer. What this means is, the driver would have the performance of an RB motor, and it will pollute the same as the OEM setup.

RB swaps can be smogged, and are smogged LEGALLY everyday...

[cdorhout]

Just like you can tune a car for maximum horsepower and torque, you can tune a car for minimum emissions as well.

With a PowerFC (or any other stand-alone ECU) you should be able to make two different fuel and ignition maps. One for go fast, and one that Al Gore would be proud of.

[akwikz]

The RB series of engines run very rich. When MotoRex got the GT-R to pass emissions they had to put in multiple cats. I think 3 of them. There is a way to make it legal. Since they managed to get them certified, someone somewhere has the appropriate info. But without that info, you will not be able to make it legal and will be looking for trouble down the road.

Brian

[Joe]

you guys are completley missing the point!

passing on numbers is only half of the problem. in California they have a VISUAL INSPECTION. if the engine is from a car that was never sold here, it will never pass! period. underline. end of story.

if any modifications done aren't CARB approved, it will never pass!

its easy to get a RB to pass on numbers. but in California its a totally different world.

[grosspolluter]

you guys are completley missing the point!its easy to get a RB to pass on numbers. but in California its a totally different world.

'hazw8st' hooked it up...

My RB is smog exempted for life, that is I will NEVER have to smog it, even when I sell, my car is registered in California, with California plates and is currently registered. The only reason I am asking for some help is because the JDM smog exemption king "hazw8st" is deployed in Iraq and won't be back until next year.....

Need some "help" while he is gone.... we miss you "hazw8st"......

[Yellow4g63]

Did you do the natural gas conversion to cert the car?

[Bluefire]

'hazw8st' hooked it up...

My RB is smog exempted for life, that is I will NEVER have to smog it, even when I sell, my car is registered in California, with California plates and is currently registered. The only reason I am asking for some help is because the JDM smog exemption king "hazw8st" is deployed in Iraq and won't be back until next year.....

Need some "help" while he is gone.... we miss you "hazw8st"......

No on here is stupid enough to give out info on shops that will smog illegaly. I went to 3 different places that were known to hook it up, but they all ended up getting shut down very quickly.

-Bluefire

[Chaos the Xile]

my advise is to move from Cali if you wanna do something like this.

[skygame]

Did you do the natural gas conversion to cert the car?

sounds great, anybody know the lowdown on the natural gas exemption, who does it, and how much??? Thanks!

[cdorhout]

Excuse my ignorance on emissions testing as we don't have it here in Iowa.

Are you guys telling me that nobody in CA is passing these tests with JDM motors? There has to be thousands of guys with motorswaps in Cali. SR20's, RB's, JDM Honda motors, etc. Wouldn't they all fail the "visual" test right off the bat? Or are there that many crooked smog workers there?

[Bluefire]

Or are there that many crooked smog workers there?

YES... and thank god for them, otherwise half the fixed up imports here in cali wouldn't have registration

[hazw8st]

YES...and thank god for them, otherwise half the fixed up imports here in cali wouldn't have registration

Mod friendly smog techs and indefinite smog exemption!

[skygame]

Mod friendly smog techs and indefinite smog exemption!

hazw8st is #1.....

[coreansurfer]

i have an s14 with rb25det, its set it up to run clean but that doesn't matter because of visual, you just gotta find someone to do it illegally, but don't come back and complain when you get reffed. if you're in socal and you need a reliable shop give us a call JER (714) 890-9207