Racingline front and rear endlink review

[brandonbeeb]

Ok so i wasnt going to do a review, to be honest when it comes to suspension stuff in the past i havnt been to pleased with upgrades. coming from a built wrx i figured it would be hard to put a smile on my face with just some endlinks. Anyways i wanted to build my coupe from the ground up as i get ready for the some up comming car shows. So Joe over at Racingline was nice enough to get me the front and rear endlinks along with some battery tie down expressed out to me. The rear installation is really straight forward and it only took me about 20 minutes per side. 90% of the time is spent taking the wheels off once you have the car jacked up. Once i got the rears finished and lowered the car i was set on doing the fronts but a few things came up so i couldnt at the time. Driving with just the rears i did notice that the back end felt alot more stiff and could really be noticed on the highway on ramps which are always fun. I finally got around to the front endlinks yesterday, they where a little bit harder to get on there as the factory bolts where pretty stiff to get off even though my car has about 500km on it so i cant imagine what it would be like after say 45000km and all that mud and grease in there. Now that the fronts are on there the car feels really complete, its how the car should have come from the factory. I know once i get some coil overs and new sway bars i will really feel the difference. For the price and the low amount of time to instal them i feel that its one of the best mods you can do for the car. I think it takes longer to put a short ram intake on a car then it does to do the back endlinks. Honestly if you guys are on the fence about these and are local give me a call and come for a ride in my car i think youll be sold after that. In the pics youll notice the difference right away, the factory ones look like you can snap them with your fingers, the best part about the racingline ones is there fully adjustable.Here are some pics off the back ones, ill get some ones of the front up later tomorrow as my camera died tonight. front endlink picture off of the websiteNice battery tie down i was sent [img] https://forum-attachments.sfo2.digital ... 2.jpg[/img]

[imdavit]

o man u make me not regret purchasing everything yesterday night at 3 a.m at all. i really love you for this lol.

NO h0m0

i cant wait to put the endlinks and rsb on o my@!

[brandonbeeb]

3am, someone was out late lol.honestly once you get them on you wont regret them, i cant wait for the y pipe now, hopefully that comes soon

[bina12834]

i plan on getting the Eibach's from Stillen before the sale price ends, as well as the endlinks and Stillen rsb. im just going to get them installed all at once....i cant wait.

[headhunt3r]

*cough* should convince racingline for another GB

[alt.coupe28]

okay okay im sold! this just makes me want to buy them now!

[imdavit]

okay okay im sold! this just makes me want to buy them now!

yea aint that crazy? the lil things are the ones that show the most difference, after i read the review by MC i was like wow..

question though i could install this by myself? i just gotta tighten the screws real good and im good to go? only an idiot wont know how to do this right? dont really feel like wasting more monies

[Strik3r69]

For real though...Can we get another group buy for the endlinks?? I"m down for it 100%

[imdavit]

mine are coming in on the 28 omg thats forever LOL not sure about the RSB though.

[08altima35]

i test drove before and after installing the racingline endlinks (front + rear) and in my opinion they're really not that effective. They look a whole lot stronger because they're wider, but i doubt their tensile strength is stronger than the stock endlinks because the racingline are hollow. If stronger cornering is what you going for the stillen RSB helps body roll and completely stiffens the rear end through corners. The endlinks in my opinion are just another mod to add to your list.

[brandonbeeb]

i test drove before and after installing the racingline endlinks (front + rear) and in my opinion they're really not that effective. They look a whole lot stronger because they're wider, but i doubt their tensile strength is stronger than the stock endlinks because the racingline are hollow. If stronger cornering is what you going for the stillen RSB helps body roll and completely stiffens the rear end through corners. The endlinks in my opinion are just another mod to add to your list.

To be honest i dont agree with that, comming from a rally car that is all about handling and being someone that drives there car hard i def noticed this and i know alot of people confirm that. its not one mod that will be felt if your not driving hard. the rsb ive heard doesnt do much and its the endlinks which do more to be honest.

[imdavit]

i test drove before and after installing the racingline endlinks (front + rear) and in my opinion they're really not that effective. They look a whole lot stronger because they're wider, but i doubt their tensile strength is stronger than the stock endlinks because the racingline are hollow. If stronger cornering is what you going for the stillen RSB helps body roll and completely stiffens the rear end through corners. The endlinks in my opinion are just another mod to add to your list.

aw man don't say that, someone tell him he's wrong and explain to him why cause i cant LOL. well i sure hope you are wrong cuz i spent 200 on these and instead i couldve just bought an intake. o man come to think of it, i shouldve just bought the rsb and intake. lol cost is around the same and is in my budget range o well either way im getting both sooooo.

SOMEONE BACK ME UP ON THIS, TELL HIM THEY ARE THE BEST i would back myself up but im not really sure exactly what they do. just buyin em so i can complete my suspension set. something about stiffer turns and blahblah, i think the endlinks tighten up the RSB too? STIFF STIFF



edit : yay go brandon you are one step ahead of me!

[brandonbeeb]

aw man don't say that, someone tell him he's wrong and explain to him why cause i cant LOL. well i sure hope you are wrong cuz i spent 200 on these and instead i couldve just bought an intake. o man come to think of it, i shouldve just bought the rsb and intake. lol cost is around the same and is in my budget range o well either way im getting both sooooo.

SOMEONE BACK ME UP ON THIS, TELL HIM THEY ARE THE BEST i would back myself up but im not really sure exactly what they do. just buyin em so i can complete my suspension set. something about stiffer turns and blahblah, i think the endlinks tighten up the RSB too? STIFF STIFF



edit : yay go brandon you are one step ahead of me!

well to put it in perspective what good is a rsb if your still going to have the weak link. like sure your going to have a bigger sway bar but the sway isnt the problem, its the endlinks that are the weak spot since they flex. even by just doing urethane bushings you can feel the difference. to put in endlinks that are fully adjustable and much stiffer is a better step in my mind. takes advantage of the factory front and rear sway bars. to be honest i dont see the point of doing the rear sway unles you do the front, your going to have the rear overpowering the front, which is one of the reasons i went with the endlinks over the sway and ill do coil overs or springs before i even get the rear sway bar. so yes you made the right decision

[imdavit]

awesome, then i can't wait!

[dangeris]

Well I have a lot of roads here that I can surely test it out. I just got the Stillen RSB installed and had the racingline endlinks for a couple of months now and am dying to see how they will work together. But since you (brandon) have my lights, I can't be running around without lights.

[SHIFT_COUPE]

Very nice review

I think you have just about sold me on them too!

[maxentropy]

Unfortunately when I installed my front+rear endlinks I also had my new 19"s put on with new tires. So as far as handling I'm not sure, but I do love the way my 19's feel on the pavement with these endlinks.

Brandon-- and anyone else for that matter with the endlinks installed-- where about did you adjust your endlinks to?

[razah9]

I've been sitting on mine since the GB so glad to hear you like them.Getting the RSB when they get a GB going & going to get them allput on then.

I too would like to know what 'setting' you guys are using sincethey're adjustable. I don't want too much stiffness.

[BlackNWhite]

For real though...Can we get another group buy for the endlinks?? I"m down for it 100%

I second this!

I missed it the first time around.

[Nicky Altima]

Yes! We should have another GB! I am definitely down for one.

[dangeris]

I've been sitting on mine since the GB so glad to hear you like them.Getting the RSB when they get a GB going & going to get them allput on then.

I too would like to know what 'setting' you guys are using sincethey're adjustable. I don't want too much stiffness.

When you install the RSB with the endlinks, you won't notice a difference if you're doing everyday driving. It's when you accelerate thru a turn or going thru turn is when you'll feel the stiffness.

I have mine cranked down all the way. The shorter the endlink, the stable it is thru a turn.

[Hussain]

*cough* should convince racingline for another GB

[08altima35]

has anyone measured the stock endlink to the racingline lengths? The difference at the shortest setting is just a hair shorter than the factory and in my opinion not all that effective. I drove a road by the airport in my town that has a massive curve before and after and the difference wasn't something that I could feel or measure. I took the corner 60mph both times and the loss of traction and handling feel was identical. Once installing the RSB the difference was night and day. I was able to take the same corner under the same conditions at about 67mph before i started to break loose. If you're going to fork out the cash I say the RSB by far the more effective product.

My 2cents.

[brandonbeeb]

you say the rsb is more effective but you dont realy have a fair comparison for it, did you do a comparison with it and factory endlinks then do another one with it and the aftermarket endlinks, i heard people that have done the sway bar and then the endlinks, thats when they feel the biggest difference. a stiffer and larger bar is nice and all but what good is it if its just going to flex at the endlinks. a chains only as strong as its weakest link.

we need the y pipe now aswell

[mrodrig2]

you say the rsb is more effective but you dont realy have a fair comparison for it, did you do a comparison with it and factory endlinks then do another one with it and the aftermarket endlinks, i heard people that have done the sway bar and then the endlinks, thats when they feel the biggest difference. a stiffer and larger bar is nice and all but what good is it if its just going to flex at the endlinks. a chains only as strong as its weakest link.

we need the y pipe now aswell

I don't think you understand the point of an adjustable endlink. The advantage isn't necessarily that they are slightly if at all stiffer (probably not) than the solid endlink. It's that the length can be adjusted thereby controlling the tensioning of the swaybar. You really need to track your car and tweak your suspension to your cornering habits to fully utilize the benefits of the swaybar and endlinks. You don't just get 'em and slap them on.

[mcheddadi]

we need the y pipe now aswell

joe from racingline is making one!

13whp increase on 06 3.5 maxima!

[phobs]

I can't wait!

[chow]

Bah.

I have the Stillen RSB sitting in my non-functional garage (Its packed full of.... so cars dont fit inside) I attemped to install it at my friends only to find out that i didnt have the necessary tools, and was unsucessful.

I think i'll be purchsaing the links when summer rolls around but i really want to get my RSB on to feel the difference. I haven't even noticed the suspension change when i lowered my car because I also upgraded with rims and tires. I feel more of a bumpy ride but thats it...Haven't gone to the track with these mods yet, but thats when ill notice the difference.

Anyways, I'm sold on these endlinks.

But i gotta get my stillen RSB on before i move on.. And since the weather is HORRIBLE in toronto, it looks like im going to have to wait till next year. Unless of course, i want to do it in freezing temperatures.

[Nicky Altima]

I have mine cranked down all the way. The shorter the endlink, the stable it is thru a turn.

Did you use the shortest setting for both the rear and front endlinks? Or just the rear endlinks?

[maxentropy]

I don't think you understand the point of an adjustable endlink. The advantage isn't necessarily that they are slightly if at all stiffer (probably not) than the solid endlink. It's that the length can be adjusted thereby controlling the tensioning of the swaybar. You really need to track your car and tweak your suspension to your cornering habits to fully utilize the benefits of the swaybar and endlinks. You don't just get 'em and slap them on.

Which is why the Rear Sway Bar from Stillen is completely useless. The bar is simply more solid-- not shorter or longer. The Racingline Endlinks are adjustable and allow you to control your cornering suspension. they are the obvious choice if you are looking for a suspension mod.

Honestly I have bought the endlinks and not the RSB for exactly the reasoning above.

Keep posting your endlink configuration-- mine is a wee tighter than the old stocks.