Raced a Z06 Corvette

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So yeah, I got smoked. It was fun though. Most of the time we were just playing follow the leader, because there wasn't any place to floor it side by side. Then we pulled up at a stop light. The road was three lanes. I ducked into the far right hand lane and he pulled in behind me. The other two lanes had semi-trucks in them.

Once the light changed, I launched it and he waited a second before launching. Despite that, he still had to short shift to keep from rear ending me. :D I got into second and ran that out. He blew right the **** past me just as I was getting into third.

None the less, the guy seemed pretty impressed. He gave the thumbs up and said, "That's pretty ****in well tuned!" He said that he had 460 something horsepower. The exhaust he had was definitely not stock, so he probably had some other mods too.

All things considered, it made the drive home a bit more entertaining than it otherwise would have been.


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"whistle" Z06 huh...your nuts! LOL I tried racing my boss on 42(highway in jersey)Me and my KA24 vs. his platinum 01' GSXR1000 that was just a joke. LOL!

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haha against a GSXR1000? musta smoked you, exited the highway, got back on behind you, then smoked you again, hehe. those bikes are faaaast.

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Mmmm, I want a Gixxer 1000 motor for a go-kart...things are expensive though. As for Z06's...the numbers work out right where I should be able to beat stock ones...sounds like you tangled with something pretty sweet!

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The numbers work out? Have you driven one and 8 or 9/10 ?

I suggest you try driving one before you announce that the numbers say you could win. Seriously, there is instant and flat torque curve that will pull till redline. I've flogged an '02 ZO6 for hours on end, day after day. They have a few crucial elements that your car(the 240 in general) lacks: torque, serious factory tuned grip levels. It's not only a powerful straight line car, it's also a very responsive road course machine.

The ZO6 generally owns the road, except when lined up against my(or about any) streetbike, and the occasional Viper, or unstreetable Supra or equivalent.

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Well I'm sure if he builds a nice KA-T he could hang with a stock Z06 I mean they run 12's I would assume he can build a car that would give it a good run for the money. No disrespect at all for the mighty Z06. This is all drag though. Which is what I assume he is talking about.

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I tried to race a Z06 in my moms 95 Maxima. All I have to say was Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn! That **** was out.

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yeah i drove an auto C5 with factory upgraded exhaust and intake that supposedly gave it the same HP/TQ of the Z06 at base..and man o man...that thing was great, even for an auto. It was a 2002 or 2003 i'm not sure and im not sure if it was 4 or 5spd auto, but it hit about 65 by the end of 1st if i recall. It was gahreat.

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SmithSR, I was trying not to turn this into a wow look how fast my car will be post...but the short synopsis is: built block, t3/t04e 50 trim, 75lb. hr. injectors, jwt ecu...all the supporting stuff. I've looked at the power to weight ratios with actual power to the ground...even counting my fat self into the equation with no extra weight for a driver in a totally stock Z06 I should be even with them and beat them if I can just drive the darn thing well enough. I have a lot of respect for Z06's though, god knows if I had the money I wouldn't be driving the 240, it'd be a Z06 for a new car. Oh, and I wasn't talking about a road coarse by any stretch...I'd get my *** handed to me on that one, Z06's handle very well. I've driven several Vette's (no Z06's :() and they are awesome cars. Now back to Phax...I'm glad you had some fun! Watching Z06's open it up is always fun, especially when you come close to keeping up!

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Why can't a streetable Supra be on par with a Z06. My buddy had a Supra that I borrowed and I smoked a Z06. And that was only with 450 Hp to the wheels at 14 psi(T04R single turbo). And that car was quite streetable, except for the gas mileage if you have a brick for a foot.

One thing the C5 does real well is make driving fast easy. The very broad torque curve allows you to get the car moving without having to worry about keeping the RPM's up. Turbos can be a little sensitive about that.

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Whoa, this has turned into a good thread!! :ylsuper

First of all, the Z06 / Corvette handling. Those things are VERY well dialed in. I was in the passenger seat of my friend's Supra on a canyon run, and we were behind this Z06. My buddy had the horsepower to pass him, but on the tight roads there was no where to get a long enough run to spool up the turbos. The Vette was flat, like RS*R tuned 350Z flat through the corners. It was kinda amazing.

As Nathan said, it was especially fun when you come close to keeping up. That's so true. With the Z06, I think it was more like being sucked along in his draft, than truly keeping up. I wish that I had some external audio on it, because we came up over the bridge at the top of fourth. The exhaust sound for everyone else around us must have been sort of frightening. =)

It would take a very well driven 240SX to keep up with a Vette like that on the track. I get the sense that the Vette could do more easily, what you'd have to push a 240 to do. At least with an SR20, you'd have to push 20+ PSI to get into the same hp neighborhood as the Vette. My car will never see that kind of power, even if I had a suspension that could handle it. :(

As C-Kwik said, a streetable Supra can eat a Z06. There are few cars around that are tuned Supra fast. My buddy has one and is about to max out the stock, twin-turbo setup at around 550hp to the wheels.

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It may not of even been a z06 (sounds like it though if it was that fast). You think you see z06's a lot but most of the time they aren't. The real Z06's have the rear fender vent things. But even the regular new vettes are fast.

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Is everyone on here a streetracer? Keep it on the track.

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Yes master...

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has anyone seen the video of the go-kart with the gixxer engine in it? its soo bada** if i remeber where i saw it will post it

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goodfelladavey wrote:Is everyone on here a streetracer? Keep it on the track.


There's a difference between racing, and briefly making use of what your tax dollars pay for. ;)

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Very well put Phax.

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lol - i second that Phax

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Sorry, but I am bitter. 2 young innocent lives were just taken and one little boy paralyzed due to dumbasss street racers.

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well most of us aren't dumbass street racers, we are smart street racers. and im sorry, but street racing isnt some new thing. it was especially popular in the 60's, the in-n-out burger, all that stuff. it isnt street racing that is killing people, it is that every retard is allowed to drive

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Also, I don't consider lining up at a street light is really street racing...I don't see how that can be dangerous unless (like someone else said) they are a idiot driver who shouldnt be allowed to drive anyway. The stupid street racing that I've done once and will never do again is when you line up on some road you don't know, with ditches, and it's narrow and freaking wrap out 4th gear...I've seen and heard of too many people messing up their cars, their history with the law, their selves, and mainly others.

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In this case, two guys racing, a cop sees it, starts chasing after them, they keep speeding up, a guy is about to turn left coming from the opposite direction, but then realizes how fast these cars are going so he hits the brakes hard, misses the racers, but is then struck by the cop following them. Racing on the street is street racing. Street racing kills people. Taking your car to the track isnt very expenisive.

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yah but as bad as it sounds.. you can't take your car up to 140 on the track unless its running 9's... Highways with little to no traffic are good for that.. especially in Dallas

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gotta remember to do it on the roads without pot holes though, I don't even wanna think about hitting one at 100 in my car(crap too late ::shudders::) Racing on the street is generally a really dumb thing though, especially in an urban area that's gotta lot of traffic. The most I tend to do when catching some dork at a stoplight is maybe 10 over, which is usually acheived in first gear for me.

Drag racing gets kinda boring though, I like my racing like I like my women, lots of curves!

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Guffed wrote:It may not of even been a z06 (sounds like it though if it was that fast). You think you see z06's a lot but most of the time they aren't. The real Z06's have the rear fender vent things. But even the regular new vettes are fast.


yeah..but you can say that about just about any vette :D

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C-Kwik wrote:Why can't a streetable Supra be on par with a Z06. My buddy had a Supra that I borrowed and I smoked a Z06. And that was only with 450 Hp to the wheels at 14 psi(T04R single turbo). And that car was quite streetable, except for the gas mileage if you have a brick for a foot.

One thing the C5 does real well is make driving fast easy. The very broad torque curve allows you to get the car moving without having to worry about keeping the RPM's up. Turbos can be a little sensitive about that.


Smoked with a 450 HP supra? Thats only about 40 more HP than a Z06, which wieghs less than the supra and we all know how the supra is for the first 60 ft., traction impaired. If your buddy's supra run's faster than 12.4 in the quarter, then I stand corrected. I could see the 450 HP supra pulling as hard or a little harder than a Z06 above 100, but "smoking" one? RIIIIIGHT But over 100 handling comes more into play, and a supra doesn't pull Z06 G's with stock suspension:icon18

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I seriously doubt a 450 hp supra has anything close to stock suspension? And I don't know, but I'd be willing to guess, that a stock supra is pretty close to a stock z06 in handling?

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Well, I appologize for being wrong;)

Z06 : 0.98g 4.3sec. 0-60 12.7@113 quarter-mile 168mph top speed: Car & Driver

Supra: 0.98g 4.6sec. 0-60 13.1@??? quarter-mile 160mph top speed: Car & Driver

Ouch tl1000sga...stock supra = SAME roadholding as z06! Check your facts next time you post:D j/k

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no kidding...sounds like he's a spokesperson for chevy.

z06 in now way 'owns the road' except for the vehicles you listed. if that's the way it is in your town, you need to move somewhere else where there is more competition.

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NeedCAforS13 wrote:I seriously doubt a 450 hp supra has anything close to stock suspension? And I don't know, but I'd be willing to guess, that a stock supra is pretty close to a stock z06 in handling?

Sean


The suspension may not be stock, but my experience with most supra owners is that they put thier money in the engine since it's so legendary, but you do have a point. As far as the handling goes, it depends on your opinion of "close" is. Some people consider .1 G close, some think .01 G is close. A Z06 pulls 1.0 G's while a 1997 supra pulls .94 G's. :icon18


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