raced a mustang in my Q today!

[1qckser]

You had me going for a minute, thats actually 250,000.00 JPYJapan Yen = 2,260.99 USDUnited States Dollars:)

[1992Q45A]

I just came to correct my bad translation.

ARGH!

My kit is $5,200... lol

Why the hell did they have to cut into the bumper u g h

[1992Q45A]

Does yahoo jp have any old g20 impul kit take offs? They have some G50s.. problem is shipping for the bumper would be at least 400 per azuma

I dunno wtf I was thinking. I was refering to the price you can get the old kits off the yahoo jp auctions. Problem is shipping. U g H

[1qckser]

Have not seen any:)

[Altiman94]

the reality of the thing, dont know who posted it, but hardly any of you paid the full sticker price for your car. Most of you paid around 1/10th of what your car was worth new. They aren't 55k cars anymore. They are worth 1/10th of that now. You cant call it a $55k car when you can buy a nice one for $5.5k

[Cold_Zero]

Yeah,I am coming a little bit late into this whole “my car is faster than your car” discussion. I do have to say, I have raced a Z06 with an LS6 in it and I have respect for the technology and performance that Detroit has designed and built. I have also ridden in a CTS-V that raced a de-badg’ed Cobra and again, I have much respect. Detroit has been designing some pretty awesome cars. That CTS-V has excellent acceleration, braking (I got to experience this first hand WOW) and handling. And to be honest, if I would be in the market for a car in the Q45 or M45's price range, I would be tempted by a CTS-V or M3.

If any of you guys want to put your Q's up to some real world testing, I would love to schedule some races around Indy to see how the Q stacks up to the Mustang GT, Camaro SS and the V. Heck, I will race a Q just to see what happens.

bud

[Altiman94]

Id liek to see some of these races myself. Then we'd get some 'real world data' as you all have been wanting.

[Cold_Zero]

BTW-What is a G50 and does it really exist?

[1992Q45A]

I raced my friends scooby. That thing slaughtered me at anything below I would say around 70.. Then we were about even.

I cant wait to race him in my modded 92..

[ScottJackson]

do you live in ames or iowa city? I recently got my 95 BMW 540i running and I like it better than my 92 Q45a. The Q is still a sweet car, but the 540 has a more solid feel and is faster all around. I wish I had active suspension on it though. The BMW brakes are sooo much better than the Q. Steering is more responsive, seats are more supporting while also a bit softer, 5 speed auto trans is great. It shifts just right all the time. Put it in drive and it shifts like a 93+ Q, put it in sport mode and it keeps the revs up and really gets scooting. Changing spark plugs and such is a snap. Granted, the 540i will cost about $8K and the 92 Q about $4K from ebay or private individual assuming good shape but nothing other than stock. Right now I drive the 540i all the time and my dad takes the Q for trips to Yellowstone and back, quite often. It's also true that here in Iowa especially, girls and even guys know nothing of these cars. Some guys know small block chevy stuff but that's about it. I have a mercedes V12 emblem I put on the engine cover of my V8 540 and only two people (both old friends from high school) have asked about the car and both believed it was V12 without me saying after I opened the hood. One asked if it was rear wheel drive... The girls around here have no clue. I took my Q to Yellowstone with my girlfriend last summer and was looking at a 79 635 bmw before we left (I bought it soon after) and asked her what she thought of the car. She just said something like, "Yeah a BMW would be sweet." I looked at her for a second, and then said, "And we're in a Q45 right now." She didn't get it. No one does. No one knows what a Q45 or any Infiniti is. Neither of these cars are hot rods to me though, just somewhat sporty sedans, that's it. I've got my cheaply built 89 camaro that's much faster than either of these cars to hot rod. Until the 1100hp 69 mach1 is finally together, which won't be for a while. But I still get the urge to get on the gas in the 540. I'm looking into getting a centrifugal supercharger to bump it up to 420hp. It never ends... I need to just keep the 540, sell the Q to someone who'll keep it active suspension and appreciate it with it's replaced chain guides and great condition, use the money to finish the mustang and be thrilled with both. One hot rod mustang that'll smoke the tires off throttle at 80mph and one sporty sedan with a supercharger for cruising. Oh yeah, and my trusty 92 F150 for hauling and winter. What a worthless post this is... Get along everyone, the Q isn't a hot rod in any form but is a great inexpensive sedan that has a curiously strong mint, uh, I mean MOTOR.

[1992Q45A]

I'd go for a 97+ 540i

I have a review of that gen 540i in the mag where my car was featured, and they bashed on it.

Basically said the engine was awesome, but the 525 chasis wasn't up to par with the engine, etc etc

Said the M5 was far superior.

I don't like that older gen of BMWs. however after 97+ it was all over. BMW was king again.

The 97+ 540i was designed with the v8 in mind, the older ones were just a bolt on

[1992Q45A]

Not too bash on your car, as I'm sure it's a fine automobile...

Just saying, If you could save up and get the later gen 540i the experience would be even finer..

[Jesda]

Ditto on the seats. When I sat in your BMW I found it to be super supportive yet very comfortable. Nothing was too firm or too soft, and the shape and everything was -just- right.

I guess that also might be the only thing I miss about my Benz.

-Jesda

[elwesso]

Bud..... THe G50 is the generation name for the 90-96 Q45....

And I think a lot of the things that makes the 94 more popular, is the styling. Its certainly more attractive (I think, and most would), and it sorta can compete with the BMW of the era. Obviously people are gona take the bimmer over the Q....

THere is a reason that BMW and MB have ALWAYS outsold Infiniti, and its not just because theyre more popular.....

[ScottJackson]

Yeah, I got the 95 cheap... but if I were to buy one I'd go for 97 and newer also. My 95 has the replacement alusil motor so I'm fortunate there, all the 97-up had the alusil block and were 4.4L instead of 4.0L like mine, but they are heavier so performance is the same. Yeah, the M5 of the earlier generation was a great car, but the motor had a number of costly issues. That and they're much more expensive. The 540i has the same body as the 525, 530, and 535 but it has bigger brakes than those cars and also has the V8-only bigger differential. I personally think the chassis is just right for the motor. If I were buying one though, I'd go for a 97 or newer 540i with 6 speed manual trans, get springs, shocks, and wheels for it, then supercharge it. You could do that for far less than the newer M5 and have more power.

[ScottJackson]

edit that last post... I think the body and suspension are a fine match for highway driving and even some spirited twisty road driving. For track use though, the M5 with it's 3.8L straight six is far better. It's better balanced and much stiffer suspension. However, for the money of that one could easily get suspension parts for the 540i and make it better than the M5 on the track while still having the V8 juice and ease of maintenance.

[1qckser]

I frequent the BMW forums and I tell ya they have a battle going on between the older M5s and the 540s that is just nuts, its worse than anything I have seen on this forum regarding the 90-93 vs the 94s-96.

Drove a 98 540i with the Dinan tcu program, and ecu program, he did the 3.42 upgrade, gutted the cats and left the stock muffler on it, the car felt very strong, withthe springs he had installed the handling felt a little heavy at slow speeds, but once you got moving it worked out perfectly, very nice very fast car.

[Cold_Zero]

I raced my friends scooby. That thing slaughtered me at anything below I would say around 70.. Then we were about even.

I cant wait to race him in my modded 92..

A stock WRX does fall flat on its face around 60mph. The exhuast is too choked and restricted. Another problem is the lack of torque at mid to top 4th gear. One the of the draw backs of a 2liter.

bud

[1992Q45A]

Bud..... THe G50 is the generation name for the 90-96 Q45....

And I think a lot of the things that makes the 94 more popular, is the styling. Its certainly more attractive (I think, and most would), and it sorta can compete with the BMW of the era. Obviously people are gona take the bimmer over the Q....

THere is a reason that BMW and MB have ALWAYS outsold Infiniti, and its not just because theyre more popular.....

There you go again.. more popular

I guess you forget about the sales numbers.. Or will react with market dynamics.. Look at Lexus sales.. Model year sales are consistent with no to little changes. Bottom line your supposedly more popular G50 didn't sell that well compared to the 90-93. Don't blame chain guides, not an issue at that point

Sorta compete with the BMW of that era? Not really, the suspension was lightened up, and the speed it lost, made it decisively slower.

Keep dreaming wes.

Everytime you make an observation about the 90-93 vs 94+ and try to cover it up as fact, when it's nothing but opinion, I will counter. You want to end this arguement, don't make statements like "more popular" Fact it it wasn't

More resale value? Yea its newer.. It was also over 10,000 more then a 90-93.. So had you bought the 94 new, you would have lost more money..

[elwesso]

What I dont understand is why you continue to

[1992Q45A]

You can say all day you prefer your 94. No arguement from me.

I can say all day I prefer my 92.

Just stop trying to push in your opinion as fact.

That is a nasty 4 letter word, and it's called bias.

Break it down with the FACTS.

Facts don't support anything you've stated. It's your opinion.

[1992Q45A]

I was done, until once again you had to make a fanboy statement about 94s being more popular due to the style. The F A C T is more people bought the "ugly" non grilled Q, and they all loved it.

You end biased statements like that, and I won't have to put out nonreputable facts over and over.

Just say you love your 94 for the changes infiniti made. No arguement from me.

[Jesda]

Jesus ****ing christ... enough of this 94 v. 92 crap. People are sick of it.

Besides, we all know my Q45 is the best because it has a NICO sticker and smells like white castle inside.

-Jesda

[elwesso]

You need a new one of those air freshener things that goes into the seat!!!!

I love having the Q45 smell ALL THE TIME!!!

[1992Q45A]

Yea, and I'm sick of people bashing on the car because of its style, and making incorrect statements all the time.

I appreciate both cars.

A ton of thought went into the original Q. You may not like the nose, but it was engineered that way for a purpose. Respect that, at the very least.

It's not a 94 vs 92 or wtf ever

I drive a f'ing 94 daily. So bite me

It's a simple matter of 94+ owners continually bashing on first gens for their asthetics, and never pointing out the positives.

[Cold_Zero]

Let's try to re-focus and move back on topic.

bud

[1992Q45A]

The topic is the WRX rocks, and I want one.

I don't care if my 94 is faster on the freeway, I'd give it up in a heartbeat for a 'rex.

I love turbos, and I love the tight steering/handling of the WRX

Although I'd have to sell my soul and move up to the sti

[Jesda]

I'd take a Saab 9-2 for the upscale styling, smoother quieter ride, and nicer interior.

[1992Q45A]

I'd take the WRX because the saab is the same thing

I dont need a hatchwagon thing

[Altiman94]

I don't care what anyone says about the srt-4. Ive test driven one when I was looking into buying one. The boost hits hard and that thing pulls like a little rocket ship. Its fast and very reasonably priced. You all laugh cuz its a neon and dont liek the rather large wing. But the neon driver would be the one laughin when ur lookin at the goofy butt of his "overpriced neon".