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i have a 2002 nissan pathfinder. my vehicle received a p1130 error code.
i bought the whole TANK ASSY-PRESS part #22370-4W01A because it was about the same
price as just the swirl control valve.
unfortunately im not sure if the vacuum piping is installed correctly :chuckle:
can someone send me a pic of the tank so that i can verify the vacuum piping?
ive looked online extensively and i cant make heads or tails from oem nissan parts diagrams :werd:


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I think these are what you're looking for. Let me know if you need more!

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actually mines looks different than that. mines looks like a small black box with a valve in each corner.
the issue im having is that i do not know where my Swirl control valve/control solenoid valve connects to ?
{ the one with a green electrical connector } does it connect to the vacuum switch OR the air box ?


nevermind....


found a pic. turns out i had the valve connected to the vacuum switch instead of the intake.

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Towncarblue - I am also looking for a pic of the vac line connections after I replaced the swirl control solenoid and various vac lines on my 2002 PF. Can you share where you found yours? Thanks

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Hello, I know this is a very old post but if anyone is still around I have a question. I am trying to find out where the swirl valve Actuator vacum line connects too. Thanks

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Basdog539 wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:55 pm
Hello, I know this is a very old post but if anyone is still around I have a question. I am trying to find out where the swirl valve Actuator vacum line connects too. Thanks
It connects to a solenoid valve on the top front side of the engine.
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From the solenoid, the vacuum line connects to the actuator, which is mounted on the intake manifold. This the the most inconvenient, inaccessible location. Without dismantling everything down to the manifold, there is no way I have found to replace that vacuum line.
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There is another vacuum line from the solenoid to a check valve, mounted at the top driver's side of the engine bay.
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Thank you, my 02 looks slightly different as I have a small black box with solenoids on either side. 1 I am assuming is for the swirl valve and the other for the power valve. I had to replace the coolant hose that went from the block to the water control valve. In doing so I found the vacuum line to the swirl valve actuator to be completely falling apart and there's no way it was working. The engine ran perfectly tho. Now with everything reassembled the engine runs rough with a high idle. The idle was hunting until I cleaned the iac valve. It's now steady,not perfectly smooth but way better. Is it possible that I just need to do the idle air volume relearn? Thanks for the help.

I forgot to mention I currently have the swirl valve actuator connected to the back of the small black vacum box. I tried to follow the dotted lines in the factory service manual and that is where it looked like it connected to.

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Basdog539 wrote:
Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:10 pm
The idle was hunting until I cleaned the iac valve. It's now steady,not perfectly smooth but way better. Is it possible that I just need to do the idle air volume relearn? Thanks for the help.

I forgot to mention I currently have the swirl valve actuator connected to the back of the small black vacum box. I tried to follow the dotted lines in the factory service manual and that is where it looked like it connected to.
My setup is the same as yours. You described the connection to the back of the vacuum reservoir just as it should be. There is a piping route inside the reservoir that connects the actuator hose to the solenoid. Doing that IACV relearn procedure may be all that is needed.
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Thank you for the info and the pictures. I just was outside working on it and started it up. It ran better but idled high (~1200rpm) however I suddenly noticed smoke, I immediately shut the engine off and noticed that the driver side catalytic converter was glowing cherry red. I am thinking it is clogged but why? The engine doesn't run smooth it feels like there is a misfire but I am getting no codes for misfire. The codes I get on my scan tool are P0327 P0505 and P0102. I am thinking that I am getting unburnt fuel into the cat. My plan is to test the coil packs and then the fuel injectors. I will look up the specs in the factory service manual. I also thought that it might be running extremely rich but why only on the driver side bank? I did not think to look at short term fuel trim because i wanted to stop the engine rite away. When I removed all 3 pieces of the intake manifold in order to replace the coolant hose they were very dirty, tons of oily build up. I replaced the pcv valve and all the breather tubes and cleaned the 3 manifold pieces with intake/throttle body cleaner. I made sure to completely dry everything and blow it all out with air compressor. I have a bad feeling that I will need a new cat but before I replace that I need to determine the cause.
Thank you in advance for the help.

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.... I have a bad feeling ...
Yikes! Me too. I'm thinking an air intake leak at the intake manifold gasket to the head, on the driver side. Not sure why your mass air flow sensor is flagged (P0102) unless it too is loaded with dirt/oil or why your knock sensor is flagged as well (P0327). The IACV is definitely a problem (P0505), but hopefully the relearn procedure will take care of that. After it's cooled down, getting those STFT readings may give you a clue.

If that gasket is leaking, the unmetered air being sucked in is going to make the O2 sensor open up excessive fuel delivery to that bank so that the air/fuel mix is balanced. A grossly out of balance bank1/bank2 air/fuel mix might be causing the knock sensor DTC.

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Sorry posted reply twice
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Ok thanks, I just got home from a long day at work so it'll probably have to wait until the morning. I am a little anxious about running it so that I can get the shirt term fuel #s but a few minutes should be ok. First I will test that all the cylinders on that bank are getting spark. I'm really not sure how it would have an air leak at the head as I used all new gaskets (not oem but Fel Pro & I've never had a problem with them) I made sure the mating surfaces were perfectly clean and free of any residue and torqued the bolts according the the sequence and torque specs in the fsm. It's kinda odd that at first I didn't have this problem but then after replacing the hose clamps on a vacum line it then happened. I don't know how to post a picture but it was the vacum hose that goes from the evap service port to the switch mounted on top of the intake manifold. I believe it might be the
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I was thinking that a lot of the problems stem from the iac. I tested the resistance between pins 2 and 1,3, and 5 and 4,6 and all came back at 22.2-22.4ohms. So I don't think it is bad, possibly the re learn procedure will help tho I'm not sure I can get the vehicle to operating temp without the cat glowing red. Can I do the re learn procedure without bring the engine to operating temperature?

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Basdog539 wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:35 pm
Can I do the re learn procedure without bring the engine to operating temperature?
No. The procedure requires normal operating engine temperature and the transmission has to be warmed up as well. You can get the LTFT and STFT readings without the engine being warmed up, so you can see if bank 2 has high percentage numbers, an indication more fuel is being delivered to make up for too much air, if there is a leak in that side of the intake manifold. You are right to check for an ignition fault. If there is no spark happening or the coils wires are plugged into the wrong coils, those fuel trim numbers will be negative percentages.

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Another test you can do with the engine off is to check the fuel pressure to see if there is a rapid pressure drop. With a T-fitting, install the fuel pressure gauge between the fuel filter and the fuel rail. Make this connection at the filter. Turn the ignition key On and pinch the fuel feed line shut between the T-fitting and the fuel tank. Turn the ignition key Off. If the pressure decreases rapidly, an injector (or injectors) may be leaking. Excessive amounts fuel being burned in the exhaust can certainly make that cat red hot.

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Thank you, I'll try and get a fuel pressure gauge from part store today, I'm sure they have one in the loaner tool section. Do you know what the resistance should be on the coils and which pins I need to test between? I will also try and look it up. Thanks

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You can check the resistance between pins 2 and 3, to test the coil power transistor, but there is a whole bunch or other tests involved to determine why there is no spark, if that is the case. For the coil power transistor test, anything other than 0 ohms is good. Unless the reading you get is 0 (no good), this test alone will not be conclusive with regards to whether or not you are getting a spark. I know pulling the coils off their sparkplugs, one at a time, and visually checking for a spark with a known good sparkplug, is the best assured way to check this. Unfortunately, #4 is impossible to pull the coil without removing the throttle body, 5 and 6 are a pain to get at unless you dismantle a bunch of stuff, 3 is not much easier but 1 and 2 are not so bad to get at.

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Ok I just recorded the stft and ltft on both bank 1 and 2. I also recorded the 02 voltages for B1S1 & B1S2 and B2S1 & B2S2
Stft was almost the same for B1 & B2 it varied from -7.6% to -3% on both banks at about the sane rate on each bank.
Ltft read 0% in both banks ?
02 for both banks sensor 1 read roughly the same
As it varied from .2-.68 volts
Both banks sensor 2 stayed pegged at .290v

Idk if I didn't run the vehicle long enough to get a long-term fuel trim if I remember correctly I usually recorded something by the time the vehicle reached operating temperature.
As for the idle it started at roughly 1200rpm then dropped to about 750 and was steady and smooth?
All I have done was make sure all of the electrical connectors were snuggly connected and replaced a few clamps on vacuum lines on top of the intake manifold.
I'm now a little more confused than I was before. Possibly a coil was not fully connected but I'm usually pretty ocd about checking things. And I don't know if the fuel injection could have adjusted by itself in such a short time period.

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:crazy: Yeah...I take for granted that I always seat my connections well, and I do have a bit of OCD. An ill seated coil harness connector is sort of common on these older rides. Pins get worn from oxidation and multiple disconnect/reconnect uses. Had an issue once with a bad connection, but with an ever so slight twist of the flat pins, the contact was made solid and the issue went away. You may have dodged a big headache, looking for a major cause to the issue, when it was just an old connector.

Take it for a spin and then check your codes and readings. The MAF sensor may still be something to clean up and the IACV relearn should be done as well.

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Thank you for all of your help. I wish I had a laser temperature gun so I could test the difference in the two banks cat temp. I plan on taking it for a drive tonight when I will be able to see if the cat glows but from what I can tell as of now it is running perfectly. I cleared the codes and nothing has come back. I have idled it long enough to get coolant temperature up to 182 and in doing so saw the first movement of the long term fuel trim. It was a -1.7% for bank 2. I am really hoping I did not due to much damage to the cat. My state doesn't require emissions testing and I really don't want to have to fight with 23 year old exhaust bolts if I do not have too. I'm thinking that the misfire I was feeling was simply the coil not firing due to incomplete connection. That it turn probably caused the knock sensor to throw a code because of the incomplete combustion and the glowing cat was a result of unburnt gad being pushed out the exhaust port. The iac code has not cone back either. Hoping your right about getting lucky. Again thank you for the help.

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Everything was good until yesterday evening then the high idle came back. When in drive it idles at 750rpm but in park it idles at 1000-1100rpm. Nothing was changed, the only thing I have done was to bleed the excess air out if the cooling system. I have performed the idle relearn procedure twice but it has not helped. I do currently have the throttle body coolant lines bypassed however I do not think that should effect it as the ambient air temp is taken before the throttle body.

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Basdog539 wrote:
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Everything was good until yesterday evening then the high idle came back. When in drive it idles at 750rpm but in park it idles at 1000-1100rpm. Nothing was changed, the only thing I have done was to bleed the excess air out if the cooling system. I have performed the idle relearn procedure twice but it has not helped. I do currently have the throttle body coolant lines bypassed however I do not think that should effect it as the ambient air temp is taken before the throttle body.
I believe those rpm ranges are well within spec.

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I have performed the idle relearn procedure twice but it has not helped.
The IACV relearn procedure is a pain for all the precise timing required between performing all the steps and for the preconditioning requirements that must be met before you begin the process. If after step 8, your idle is not at 750 + or - 50 rpm, something is wrong. There is only one other manual adjustment, aside from this calibration, that can be done and must be correct before doing this IACV relearn procedure. Check your TPS adjustment for being properly set and adjust it as needed and reset memory. Other than that, the notes from the FSM points to a number of other issues to investigate.
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Ok I was reading in the fsm last night about resetting the throttle position sensor. I am going to check everything using feeler guages as stated in the fsm. I'm also thinking the idke relearn procedure was unsuccessful due to the transmission not being completely to normal operating temperature. I plan to try the relearn procedure one more time after driving the vehicle or at least 15 minutes. The vehicle drives fine and idle while in drive is steady at 750.
The one odd thing I noticed last night was that the ignition advance on #1 cylinder was at 5° at idle. I'm almost positive I recall it usually being closer to 15°.

Before replacing that coolant hose buried in the valley of the block I had none of these issues. I'm starting to think that I somehow damaged the iacv while cleaning everything before reinstalling it all. And it is the iacv (hopefully just iacv and not the driver on the ecu) that is the cause of all this.

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Basdog539 wrote:
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The one odd thing I noticed last night was that the ignition advance on #1 cylinder was at 5° at idle. I'm almost positive I recall it usually being closer to 15°.
I wasn't aware that it was even possible for the ignition advance for each cylinder to be different or that other scan tools could give you the ignition advance reading for each cylinder. My scan tool reads out only one number. Maybe my basic scan tool just gives the average for all cylinders. I'm not sure what to make of that. I would think varied ignition events would make the engine knock and run quite roughly.

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mdmellott wrote:
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I wasn't aware that it was even possible for the ignition advance for each cylinder to be different or that other scan tools could give you the ignition advance reading for each cylinder.
In theory it's possible for any ECU-driven ignition to vary timing from cylinder to cylinder, but in practice it's never done. The only conceivable reason would be to compensate for something unhealthy affecting one particular cylinder, and no one does that.
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The one odd thing I noticed last night was that the ignition advance on #1 cylinder was at 5° at idle. I'm almost positive I recall it usually being closer to 15°.
Was the TPS disconnected? On practically all Nissan engines prior to COP, the TPS has to be disconnected in order to see base timing. If the TPS is plugged in then the timing will be what the ECM decides it wants, not base.

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It's possible that my scan tool is just giving the base or average ignition advance ot might just label it as ignition advance on #1 cylinder. I am just going to replace the iacv with a Hitachi iacv. I will pull the ecu and visually check it at least for any damage/burnt chips. Hopefully all it ends up being is a faulty iacv and it's all just a bad coincidence. I really hate trying to fix something by throwing parts at it but I've really run out of options.

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Well I ordered a new Hitachi iacv. However, a new issue has arisen, i have developed a new coolant leak. Before reinstalling everything I did a pressure test and found one very small leak. It was at the rubber hose that connects the two metal lines on the passenger side of the engine, the large one just above the exhaust manifold. This was fixed by simply tightening the clamp.
The new leak I can see dripping down and off the bell housing. I have a bad feeling the it is the cross over tube that contains the water control valve, ugh. If it is that, what is the best way to go about replacing it. I've read you have to drop the transmission in order to access it. I've also read it's possible though very difficult to do it without dropping the Trans. Thanks for all you guys help

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The new leak I can see dripping down and off the bell housing. I have a bad feeling the it is the cross over tube that contains the water control valve, ugh. If it is that, what is the best way to go about replacing it.
Try not to think about how to deal with dismantling that tube unless you can confirm for certain that is the source of your leak. Hopefully, it's something much less troublesome to correct. You should pick up some fluorescent leak detector dye and a UV light from a local auto parts store or online. Where ever the leak is coming from, a coolant trail right to the source of the leak will light up with the UV light. I hope it turns out to be an easy fix.


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