Questioning S13 Popularity

[Onizuka]

yes, this thread went from ok...to ignorant.

Just to clear things up, the sil80 was made to satisfy the drifting masses.

Since so many drifters were crashing and screwing up their popups, in the mountain passes, They decided to switch the stock lights in their 180sx for the cheaper projectors from the s13 (yes cheaper!! Ironic isn't it?). Nissan saw this trend and released a very limited amount (something like 500 or 5000) original sileightys which came equipped with I think a kaaz or nismo lsd and some other options. It was a very limited number for the fanatic few.

Nissan

Never

Made

"sil80's"



I have heard this story myself, and I belived it for a long time (just like santa claus and the easterbunny, what can i say, im gullible). Give me proof that nissan (or any company for that matter) ever produced "sil80's" and you will have a beliver here.

[SmithSR]

Did they also move the Nissan insignia to the upper left?

Who's car is this, anyways?

[gtune4]

Funny enough your grammer, spelling, and sentence structure say otherwise.

grammar is spelled grammar you stupid fok

[gtune4]

My mom LOL, someones got some growing up to do...SARCASM isn't a very hard language.

Stop losing brain cells trying to do the PERFECT DRIFT.

I'ts been done before hahahahah LOL, ur rite my mom may know more than you with respect to the back seat of cars.

:pface

here laugh at this

the mom joke is always funny

bwabwabwa or whatever you said

[gtune4]

Wait McDonalds don't hire managers like you...:ylsuper

However my mom told me Taco Bell does...

ahahahahhaha

You had all that education? I'm sorry to say you made a bad investment.

The only bad investment here was you buying your computer to tell people they work at taco bell (when actually I am a reserch engineer) to make you feel better about yourself. Believe me it won't work.

And as far as education, where do you think I met the old BAG!

[gtune4]

this thread has gone from good to bad

if someone is going to flame me for grammar, they could at least spell it right, even though this is a forum, not a spelling test.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

MAN, YOUR AN IDIOT.... YOU REALLY BELIEVE NISSAN DESIGNED THE CAR TO LOSE TRACTION? SEEING AS HOW THEY TRIED TO INCORPORATE EVERY MEASURE OF SUPERIOR HANDLING AND STABILITY CONTROL AVAILABLE TO THEM AT THAT TIME? THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE SO GOOD AT DRIFTING IS BECAUSE NISSAN OVER ACHEIVED WHAT THEY WANTED TO AND ENDED UP WITH A WELL BALANCED CAR THAN WITH A LITTLE FINESE COULD BREAK TRACTION AND SLIDE AROUND TURNS WHILE MAINTAINING SUPERIOR CONTROL.

[Sil40_Mayhem]

1. arguing = pointless2. drift what u like: 240's, FD's, FC's, ae86's, camaros, mustangs, escalades, school buses... who cares?3. there was a debate about the sil80 over @ club240. i think it boiled down to some company (i think "Kid Heart" or something like that) produced sil80's and sold them through Nissan dealerships (kinda like Saleen and Ford). thus, supposedly, Nissan never produced the sil80, but perhaps played a role in marketing it. if anyone (preferably someone in Japan) can come up w/some valid info, that would be the coolness.:ylsuper

[gtune4]

MAN, YOUR AN IDIOT.... YOU REALLY BELIEVE NISSAN DESIGNED THE CAR TO LOSE TRACTION? SEEING AS HOW THEY TRIED TO INCORPORATE EVERY MEASURE OF SUPERIOR HANDLING AND STABILITY CONTROL AVAILABLE TO THEM AT THAT TIME? THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE SO GOOD AT DRIFTING IS BECAUSE NISSAN OVER ACHEIVED WHAT THEY WANTED TO AND ENDED UP WITH A WELL BALANCED CAR THAN WITH A LITTLE FINESE COULD BREAK TRACTION AND SLIDE AROUND TURNS WHILE MAINTAINING SUPERIOR CONTROL.

Have you ever been on a mountain road and tried to take a corner in your car at a speed faster than is intended. It is called drifting.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

YEAH BUT THATS NOT HOW THE CAR WAS DESIGNED, I'VE TAKEN 90 DEGREE TURNS IN MY 240 AT 90MPH AND IT HELD FINE BECAUSE IT DOES WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. IF THE CAR WAS DESIGNED TO BREAK TRACTION AND SLIDE IT WOULD HAVE DONE SO BUT NO IT HELD TIGHT.

[DHC]

The only bad investment here was you buying your computer to tell people they work at taco bell (when actually I am a reserch engineer) to make you feel better about yourself. Believe me it won't work.

And as far as education, where do you think I met the old BAG!

LOL, don't edit the quotes to make yourself look good...

Well I stand corrected, I guess McDonalds hire Research Engineers. Do you get to wear a nameplate and all? lololololo

You know what they call garbage collectors right? Sanitation ENGINEERS.

BTW Research the spelling for reserch.

Please tell me what field? I'm curious. I can get more laughs out of this.

[DHC]

Have you ever been on a mountain road and tried to take a corner in your car at a speed faster than is intended. It is called drifting.

BTW. The next time you execute the "PERFECT DRIFT" at the mountain pass, in your nISSan that was designed for doing just that...

Push it to the limits...PLEASE

I wan't to see what your research findings are ahahahaha

Stop watching InitialD...

[gtune4]

Mt. tabor

i didnt edit the post to make me look good, it was to be funny, sorry you didn't laugh. I do reserch for a major university, i guess they think its funny. im not here to spell either, just to have fun with yall.

i always push it, as long as no one is with me. the car was meant to be driven.

[gtune4]

15mph yellow sign hairpins are not taken at 90mph either. sounds dangerous

[DHC]

Mt. tabor

i didnt edit the post to make me look good, it was to be funny, sorry you didn't laugh. I do reserch for a major university, i guess they think its funny. im not here to spell either, just to have fun with yall.

i always push it, as long as no one is with me. the car was meant to be driven.

I'm having fun, don't know about you...ahahahaha

Any car is meant to be driven, otherwise you would be drifting a horse...

Please do more of the RICER Poll, that says it all right there...

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....42707

Last post on this thread. I promise...

[hadokenny]

...I'VE TAKEN 90 DEGREE TURNS IN MY 240 AT 90MPH AND IT HELD FINE

Your bullshiz smells really bad

[PROJECTRB240SX]

WANT PROOF?

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I'LL DO IT IN MY STOCKER '90 LOWERED 1 INCH W/ CRAPPY EXHUAST. DRIVE ON DOWN TO AZ.... IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW ME, THEY KNOW I'LL DO THE STUPIDEST THINGS AT LEAST ONCE. I HAVE FOUR BLOWN APART RIMS TO PROVE IT.

[gtune4]

driving a horse? don't make me go back to the mom thing.

[Nathan]

I was being serious Hellion. Gtune, you are correct it IS spelled grammar. However, it still doesn't measure up to the multiple errors you have made in this thread.

[gtune4]

if you are talking about spelling errors, i really could care less

[180fan]

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars...ID=19

dunno guys, I've a couple friends in Japan and they themselves have claimed to have seen the elusive nissan sileighty on auction before thus my belief that it's real. Additionally, there's a silvia forum that deals primarily with Australian owners, and I would take their word of the existance of such a car as Australia seems to get many of the cars that Japan gets and if some of those guys said they've seen production sileighties, I'll take their word for it. Compare the two sides of the pacific, one side that gets basically all that japan puts out, even in limited numbers, vs. the other side that gets only a fraction of the cars that are put (and haven't even seen a real production silvia) out (North America) and you'll understand why I too believe in the production of the sileighty.

Another reason I've still some doubt about the other side of the argument is that North America hasn't seen a production silvia in mass numbers produced by Nissan. Does that mean it does not exist? Well of course it does, as we've seen pictures. But that's also because they're not limited in production as the 400-500 that are claimed to have been produced. Yet another example would be the Skyline R400, very rare in production and yet it was highly advertised by Nissan. Apparently Nissan had not given that much show time to their production sileighty and why would they? If it's to appeal to a set of drivers that are participating in illegal activities, would any company advertise it so widely and yet not try to at least capitalize on the new market? Also it's not uncommon for drifters (which the car was marketed to) to destroy their car. Thus even less in quantity and also due to Japan's emissions laws, do you think there would be that many owners that would pay to keep their car? Most of them just trash the car after it's inspection time comes up. Thus the large supply of clips that so many of us are seeking for the SR20DET swap. See my logic though?

Not to say that you guys that don't believe in it's existance should, but I'm just saying that I've reasonable justification to believe what I do.

[Chingon]

YEAH BUT THATS NOT HOW THE CAR WAS DESIGNED, I'VE TAKEN 90 DEGREE TURNS IN MY 240 AT 90MPH AND IT HELD FINE BECAUSE IT DOES WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. IF THE CAR WAS DESIGNED TO BREAK TRACTION AND SLIDE IT WOULD HAVE DONE SO BUT NO IT HELD TIGHT.

Sure you did...but then you say that you lost all 4 tires? How is that holding up?

[Sircnay]

It's a small sport compact car, leave it at that.

And it wasn't made for drifting. As much as I love drifting, it is in now way faster than Grip driving. Although you need to be able to grip drive before drifting, Drifting is like all the fun and extra stuff you get to learn after you master the stuff you need to know.

This car was made to sell, and yes to a niche. Just like how the Corvette was made to sell... in a niche. But I think you've all got your niche's screwed up is all.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I DIDN'T LOSE ALL FOUR TIRES DOING THAT... I SAID I HAVE PROOF THAT I HAVE DONE STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE FOUR BLOWN APART RIMS. ONE RIM IS NOW A THREE PIECE, THE OTHER IS MISSING A CHUCK THE SIZE OF MY FIST, ONE IS BENT IN HALF, THE OTHER LOOKS LIKE A CLAM SHELL. DUDE I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK I'LL PROVE MY STUPIDITY TO ANYONE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE! I'LL DO ANYTHING ONCE AND COMING FROM A BACKGROUND OF STOCK CARS, FORMULA FORDS, GO-KARTS, ETC. I'VE BEEN THROUGH TONS OF ACCIDENTS AND NOTHING REALLY SCARES ME ABOUT SPEED ANYMORE. I HAVE THE MOTTO "IF I DIE, ATLEAST I WAS HAVING FUN!".

[Onizuka]

http://www.japmobiles.com/cars...ID=19

dunno guys, I've a couple friends in Japan and they themselves have claimed to have seen the elusive nissan sileighty on auction before thus my belief that it's real. Additionally, there's a silvia forum that deals primarily with Australian owners, and I would take their word of the existance of such a car as Australia seems to get many of the cars that Japan gets and if some of those guys said they've seen production sileighties, I'll take their word for it. Compare the two sides of the pacific, one side that gets basically all that japan puts out, even in limited numbers, vs. the other side that gets only a fraction of the cars that are put (and haven't even seen a real production silvia) out (North America) and you'll understand why I too believe in the production of the sileighty.

Another reason I've still some doubt about the other side of the argument is that North America hasn't seen a production silvia in mass numbers produced by Nissan. Does that mean it does not exist? Well of course it does, as we've seen pictures. But that's also because they're not limited in production as the 400-500 that are claimed to have been produced. Yet another example would be the Skyline R400, very rare in production and yet it was highly advertised by Nissan. Apparently Nissan had not given that much show time to their production sileighty and why would they? If it's to appeal to a set of drivers that are participating in illegal activities, would any company advertise it so widely and yet not try to at least capitalize on the new market? Also it's not uncommon for drifters (which the car was marketed to) to destroy their car. Thus even less in quantity and also due to Japan's emissions laws, do you think there would be that many owners that would pay to keep their car? Most of them just trash the car after it's inspection time comes up. Thus the large supply of clips that so many of us are seeking for the SR20DET swap. See my logic though?

Not to say that you guys that don't believe in it's existance should, but I'm just saying that I've reasonable justification to believe what I do.

dont belive everything you hear on the internet. i have been reading Sport compact car and High performance Imports (australian) and several other magazines i have have never, not even once, seen a claimed nissan production Sil80. However, i have seen dozens upon dozens of "limited production" skylines (R34 N1, R34 M-spec, R34 Vspec II, Autec 4 door GT-R, a RB30DETT powered R33, Tommy Kaira R34 GT-t) and hundreds of s13s, s14s and s15s in every auto magazine on the shelf at barns and nobles. I have NEVER seen ANY evidence in support of the exsitence of nissan produced sil80's. I challange anybody here to find anything remotely resembling court presentable evidence (IE, not some site saying they exsist because of the same old drifter story without any real evidence)

Why would nissan not want to be involved in advertising it? Does that make any sense at all? They advertised the GT-R as a race car for the streets fully aware of the skylines illegal use at street racing. Cars being associated with compitition is a GOOD thing for auto manufacturers, illegal or not.

Again i say, give me proof.

[Nathan]

if you are talking about spelling errors, i really could care less

Well it's really not a big deal. My point was just that if your going to flaunt your intelligence then at least act the part. Spelling things incorrectly is not a good way of showing your intelligence. On the topic: I dont buy into the Sil-80 theory either.

[Chingon]

dont belive everything you hear on the internet. i have been reading Sport compact car and High performance Imports (australian) and several other magazines i have have never, not even once, seen a claimed nissan production Sil80. However, i have seen dozens upon dozens of "limited production" skylines (R34 N1, R34 M-spec, R34 Vspec II, Autec 4 door GT-R, a RB30DETT powered R33, Tommy Kaira R34 GT-t) and hundreds of s13s, s14s and s15s in every auto magazine on the shelf at barns and nobles. I have NEVER seen ANY evidence in support of the exsitence of nissan produced sil80's. I challange anybody here to find anything remotely resembling court presentable evidence (IE, not some site saying they exsist because of the same old drifter story without any real evidence)

Why would nissan not want to be involved in advertising it? Does that make any sense at all? They advertised the GT-R as a race car for the streets fully aware of the skylines illegal use at street racing. Cars being associated with compitition is a GOOD thing for auto manufacturers, illegal or not.

Again i say, give me proof.

Proof:

[Chingon]

[Onizuka]

now THAT is convincing

Authanticity is hard to judge, i still have my doubts because something like that is so easily reporduced. But again thankyou for showing that, cant ask for more proof than that on the internet (if only i could read japanese )