Question regarding laws

[naladude911]

Today we just had a floor meeting in our dorm regarding alcohol amnesty. The RA's told us that if anyone is seen to have symptoms of alcohol poising (vomiting etc) then he or she will be transported to the hospital via an ambulance. I understand this, but the RA's also said that according to University policy, one's parents will be notified. Isn't it state or Federal law that at the age of 18, a person can decide whether his or her parents should be notified? Also, once you return from campus, you have to go to a meeting and pay $50. Something sounds fishy.

[Rev_D21]

Yes Nala, rape is still a crime.

[Red coupe]

Legal advice is for lawyers, you will need one no matter what...
What is your plan here, we tell you your right and they are not allowed to do this... Monday morning your in the office to tell them you read on the internet its not allowed? If you plan on taking legal actions to stop them, you will need a lawyer... so quit the in between pseudo internet legal bull s***, and either step up and hire one or give in and forget about it.

[IanS]

Don't get alcohol poisoning.

Problem solved.

[naladude911]

^ True. No im just curious. Ill do some research on it, but I know there are EMT's on here who could help solve this question

[Red coupe]

^ True. No im just curious. Ill do some research on it, but I know there are EMT's on here who could help solve this question

So when you find out your right, what is the plan?

[frapjap]

So when you find out your right, what is the plan?

Masturbate feverishly to his own self accomplishment.

[downedzephyr]

http://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco ... index.html
when i'm not in class, i work for the orientation program at my university so i deal with this kind of disclosure somewhat often. it is against federal law to disclose any information regarding a student to anyone that is not the student or does not have prior permission, with exception to the proper authorities (i.e. police) or those who are previously listed (i.e. emergency contacts). if you are over 18 and they disclose that information to your parents without consent, they are in violation of federal law.

Yes Nala, rape is still a crime.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

it is against federal law to disclose any information regarding a student to anyone that is not the student or does not have prior permission

I'm sure nalanator signed all sorts of forms to get into the dorms, and as a byproduct they can call his parents.

Also, e-lawyering it up, FERPA only applies to school records, ex: grades. Not Steven Sett beer-bonging Natty Light...

Wait, it's next to impossible to beer bong alone. Well, I guess that option's out for Mr. Sett.


Also, vomiting is a sign of alcohol poisoning? Daaaamn. Pretty sure I suffered from chronic alcohol poisoning in college then.

[S13_love]

it is against federal law to disclose any information regarding a student to anyone that is not the student or does not have prior permission

I'm sure nalanator signed all sorts of forms to get into the dorms, and as a byproduct they can call his parents.

[downedzephyr]

it is against federal law to disclose any information regarding a student to anyone that is not the student or does not have prior permission

I'm sure nalanator signed all sorts of forms to get into the dorms, and as a byproduct they can call his parents.


Also, vomiting is a sign of alcohol poisoning? Daaaamn. Pretty sure I suffered from chronic alcohol poisoning in college then.

perhaps, he would have to check the contract he signed with his university's housing department. if it's in fact written within his university's housing policy prior to his signing of the contract, he would have had to agreed to those terms to live in the dorms, in which case he's royally screwed. which is why living off campus > living on campus.

and i guess a lot of people have suffered from chronic alcohol poisoning in college if it's by that definition.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Bottom line, the college can pretty much do whatever they want, and tell you to GTFO if you don't like it.

I got "busted" for "drinking" in college. URI was a dry campus at the time (fuggin gay), and I walked into a door room, immediately after an RA. The RA immediately proclaimed that she saw drinking, and wrote everyone up in the room, including me, who hadn't had anything to drink. She justified it by saying there was some sort of "proximity law" or some such nonsense. I then was ordered to pay $50, and go to some sort of AA class. I wrote a very strongly (profane) letter to someone (can't remember who), and did a massive brake stand outside of the RA's room at 3am to wake that b**** up.
I guess the letter got to some higher up, because I got called into a meeting. The person recommended (not mandatory) I take go to anger management classes, but I managed to get out of the AA classes.
I don't think they ever called my parents... but I wasn't living at home so I didn't really care.

[naladude911]

so its illegal for them to tell my parents about my health issues unless I give consent or have signed in a contract saying that they have the ability to?

[Red coupe]

so its illegal for them to tell my parents about my health issues unless I give consent or have signed in a contract saying that they have the ability to?

according to one guy on an internet car forum, yes.

What more could you need?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

so its illegal for them to tell my parents about my health issues unless I give consent or have signed in a contract saying that they have the ability to?

I'm sure your school has paid a real lawyer real money to make sure they're on the right side of the law in this case.

But don't stop questioning authority! After all, you have a semester of college under your belt now, you wise and worldly individual you.

Maybe we should start calling you Jimmy Method Jr.

[S13_love]

so its illegal for them to tell my parents about my health issues unless I give consent or have signed in a contract saying that they have the ability to?

[downedzephyr]

nala, don't waste your time trying to deal with the legalities of it. Urabus is right about the school probably having some well paid lawyers on staff just for this matter, and you trying to fight a legal battle with the school because they told your parents you have a cold is a waste of money. if you're really that concerned, go speak with your university's ombudsman, they serve on behalf of the students as the legal representative for student rights on a given college campus. they should know enough to help you out.

on the other hand, FERPA applies to all student records, inclusive of academic, financial, and disciplinary matters. for example, if a student is say caught drinking in the dorms, an incident report must be filled out. these reports are then filed away under the student's judicial records with the university, thereby protecting it from disclosure to individuals who are not qualified to receive that information.

[Bubba1]

Time for some reality, Nala. Universities have been dealing with underage alcohol abuse for decades. They are going to protect themselves from students like you that break the law on their property (underage drinking is illegal, remember?), and especially from the lawsuits that traditionally result when fools like you end up in the hospital as a result of an illegal activity on their property. It's very likely you and/or your parents signed some legal forms during your housing/enrollment process about this very stuff that supercedes any random legal blurb you might find on the internet.

The fact you're 18 is only relevant because the minimum drinking age is 21. If you want to drink yourself into a coma without fear of getting caught, move to a country where the drinking age is 18. I'm sure you'll have plenty of volunteers to help you pack.

<former RA.

[PoorManQ45]

Why don't you just offer that as a service?

Got alcohol poisoning from that killer party that I wasn't invited to? I'll give you and your friends a ride for $10, per car load, and not report you to the RAs!

[Bubba1]

Why don't you just offer that as a service?

Got alcohol poisoning from that killer party that I wasn't invited to? I'll give you and your friends a ride for $10, per car load, and not report you to the RAs!

He kinda already does that to women with his "rape for rides" taxi service. They'll need to be comatose for him to have any shot at sex with them.

[Jesda]

You're maybe thinking of HIPAA?

Your medical history is private, but what you do on campus is not private. The school can say "We saw him drinking and sent his a** to St Mercy"

The school cannot say, "We see in his medical records that he suffers from herp-derp"

[Dattebayo]

So you think your parents can pay the hospital bill but they can't know you were there? Who do you think is paying for your college experience, pal?

I KNOW you didn't qualify for much federal aid...

[naladude911]

^ lol this is true.

Idk, its just that my whole floor was questioning this and I wanted to find the answer. The RD was a b**** and got mad at us when we asked this question or ignored the question so thats why everyone was curious

[RobPaulson]

LOL college freshman syndrome, thats awesome and extremely true.

nala, just make sure you puke behind some bushes before u get back to your dorm. party elseware, partying in a dry dorm whilst still under your parents supervision (for all intents and purposes) is just retarded.

Or stop being a p**** and learn2drink.

[Encryptshun]

If you are covered on your parents' health insurance, even if you are over 18, they will find out regardless when they see the claim form for an ambulance ride and emergency services treatment. Since your dad is a doctor, I'm guessing he'll probably ask you about it, since you are his son and all. So the issue is moot.

As suggested previously, don't get alchohol poisoning. Like Mister Miyagi said, "Best way avoid punch not be there."

[MinisterofDOOM]

I like how this thread seems to suggest that accidental alcohol poisoning is a serious risk.

[Encryptshun]

I'm hoping someone is seriously considering giving it a try.

[Dattebayo]

I'm hoping someone is seriously considering giving it a try.

I guess that's what they mean when they say "give it the ol' college try"?

[sentrastace]

downed zephyr is on to something here:

"perhaps, he would have to check the contract he signed with his university's housing department. if it's in fact written within his university's housing policy prior to his signing of the contract, he would have had to agreed to those terms to live in the dorms, in which case he's royally screwed. which is why living off campus > living on campus."

ALSO----

my bf is a cop for the college and surrounding areas here and he deals with this bs all the time. (which is why hes transferring to be a county cop soon)
#1--dont get caught drinking in the dorm, duh.
#2--why would u want to drink so much u want to get alcohol poisoning? Not a good idea my friend.
#2--check your housing contract to see what you actually signed
#3--i believe the telling the parents clause is to scare the s*** out of you because you KNOW your parents will beat your a** if they find out you are drinking or doing drugs when theyre paying thousands of dollars for you to go to college.
#4--they actually DO find your parents contact info and you get in trouble (I've been on ridealongs with Nathan where we pick up kids who are drinking, kids who smoke weed, throw their a** in jail for a night watch them cry and call their enfuriated parents to come pick them up)
#5--there is something somewhere about having the right to tell them because you are underage drinking but the "im 18 im not governed by my parents anymore" doesnt work when you do something illegally such as drugs/alcohol in college, its the exception and a rule basically made by colleges because they know dumb kids will break the law anyway and ruin the college, in more ways than one. Deaths on campus from over drinking, shootings because drug deals go wrong, suicides because grades drop (because kids dont know how to balance partying and school work) all happen, even at top schools around the country.

bubba has it right here:

"Time for some reality, Nala. Universities have been dealing with underage alcohol abuse for decades. They are going to protect themselves from students like you that break the law on their property (underage drinking is illegal, remember?), and especially from the lawsuits that traditionally result when fools like you end up in the hospital as a result of an illegal activity on their property. It's very likely you and/or your parents signed some legal forms during your housing/enrollment process about this very stuff that supercedes any random legal blurb you might find on the internet.

The fact you're 18 is only relevant because the minimum drinking age is 21. If you want to drink yourself into a coma without fear of getting caught, move to a country where the drinking age is 18. I'm sure you'll have plenty of volunteers to help you pack.

<former RA."

and also listen to Encryptshun:

"If you are covered on your parents' health insurance, even if you are over 18, they will find out regardless when they see the claim form for an ambulance ride and emergency services treatment. Since your dad is a doctor, I'm guessing he'll probably ask you about it, since you are his son and all. So the issue is moot.

As suggested previously, don't get alchohol poisoning. Like Mister Miyagi said, "Best way avoid punch not be there.""

*waits for Nala's silly protesting reply.....*

[Bubba1]

I like how this thread seems to suggest that accidental alcohol poisoning is a serious risk.

LOL, Can be. Back when I was the RA of a true off-campus Animal House, barfing was a daily occurance, no big deal (and most came with amusing stories), but I did have to call an ambulance twice for alcohol poisoned residents during my time there. The drinking age was 18 back then, so some guys in my house were on tap 24/7 in their rooms

I remember the two kids that I had to call ambulances on were much like Nala: Naiive, socially incompetent, desperate to fit in.