Question regarding laws

[AppleBonker]

my bf is a cop for the college

Wait, your BF is a rent-a-cop?

[sentrastace]

Wait, your BF is a rent-a-cop?

what you said right there is excatly why he is moving to county (and effing annoying)----everyone thinks college park cops are "security" or "rent a cops" -----they get paid exactly as much as county or state cops, have police cars, guns, same responsibilities and duties. he pulls traffic, does investigations, etc. he is also an MPO and a pistol expert. the only difference is a majority of the calls are all f*** stupid drunk underage kids fighting in the bars, drugs in the dorm room, dealing with student suicides, and thefts around the city. two weeks ago we had a fatal shooting (drug deal gone wrong). everything is the same. hes actually taking the test for county on Friday.

[AppleBonker]

Lulz. Sorry if that came off wrong, Stacey. We need sarcasm tags on NICO. In college we hated the local cops (city, not campus police). They always seemed to be after students (though looking back I can't blame them what with all the stupid stuff we pulled - it was a constant stream of revenue). But, a lack of respect seems to come with with job of being an officer.

[bigbadberry3]

I was an RA and WE made the students call their parents I think to get around the legalities. But at the extreme, if you died could the school notify your parents?

[sentrastace]

yeah its a shame the stigma that comes with being a city cop. I actually prefer that hes there because I feel like hes safer----PG county and DC cops are targets for getting shot and it scares the f*** out of me. He's trying to go to howard county, which I think I am comfortable with, its a more affluent county. We live in montgomery county, which is half affluent half mexican. Every county has its bright sides and down sides so ill just keep my fingers crossed that when he transfers he stays safe. Last year though, the city of college park got kind of violent with the fatal shooting of the drug dealer and there was also an active shooter in a parking lot that wounded a police officer.

kids at colleges are so stupid sometimes, they think they are older then they are, they think they are invincible because mommy and daddy are no longer there to look over their shoulder. like i said, underage drinking is a HUGE problem at bars and in dorms, alcohol poisoning, fights, happen very frequently. Drugs, such as weed are very prevalent in the dorms---cocaine is HUGE in sororities. kids are so stupid they will leave their laptop on the table in the library, go off somewhere for 10 mins and then are surprised when its gone. its frustrating the type of calls he gets haha. I like to go on ride alongs with him and pull traffic, thats my fav. apparently im good at spotting expired registrations and speeders.

[sentrastace]

I was an RA and WE made the students call their parents I think to get around the legalities. But at the extreme, if you died could the school notify your parents?

i think they HAVE to notify your parents if you die, they're 'next of kin' or whatever and the only other contacts on your apps.

[Jesda]

"My son jumped off of what? From how many stories? Did he damage anything expensive on the way down?"

[breadbox]

Dorms suck, live in your own place.

[Bubba1]

Actually, as an RA to an off campus (university leased) house of crazies, I got to know the local police pretty well as they were regular visitors They were actually quite patient with us. The FBI, who visited us just once, were not as friendly.

And to add to bigbadberry's post, it was the same deal for me, if an ambulance got called, the RA files a report. In both my ambulance calls, I had suggested to the kids they pre-emptively call their parents themselves to put a better spin on their story. Once the university folks saw in the report that the parents were notified, nothing further was done. I;m sure it's much worse now with todays lawsuit crazy society.

[frapjap]

Out of curosity- what did the FBI show up for? Draft dodgers?

[bigbadberry3]

I'd go with hate crime.

[Bubba1]

Out of curosity- what did the FBI show up for? Draft dodgers?

To arrest a foreign grad student who had set up a small PCP factory in his room. We were glad to see him go.

[Encryptshun]

But did they tell his parents?

[Bubba1]

But did they tell his parents?

LOL. Probably not. He was a grad student in his 20's and not a US citizen.

[sbird1]

I love Nala threads. I'm pretty sure the thing in question is common. My college instituted the same rules.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Actually, as an RA to an off campus (university leased) house of crazies, I got to know the local police pretty well as they were regular visitors They were actually quite patient with us. The FBI, who visited us just once, were not as friendly.

I woke up one morning whilst living in the dorms to find a dude in a suit standing outside my neighbor's door. On my way to the shower I asked him if he needed any help. Apparently my neighbors were running a fake ID ring out of their DORM ROOM and the FBI caught wind of it after another dorm mate got caught with their fake ID. The guy was waiting there for them to return.
My hall was the s***.

[bcar240]

One time I listend to a dorm-legality discussion along this line that included some cops and RAs and they admitted that there is a lot of gray-area stuff done in dorms. Seemed like they are not technically a private residence (like an apartment is considered), but there is still some expectation that general rental housing laws will apply because money is exchanged for a supposedly private living space.

In an apartment/rental if something is banned, it is a contractual issue with the lease, not a legal one. You can be evicted, but it is not a crime. Most every college has written in the housing contract things like that dorm rooms can be searched at any time with no probable cause, so it would not be a stretch to assume it is written somewhere in there that they can contact your parents about discipline issues, breaking rules, etc. Like a lease, these are college rules, not law. However, things written in contracts are not necessarily always legal just because they are in a contract. You can't write a contract that says something like, "if you don't pay I will break your legs." Contracts have limited ability to infringe on people's rights, including protections from people signing away certain rights.

But it all really comes down to two things:
1: If these rules actually do infringe on any rights, which I have no idea, but I would expect the college did the homework to determine it is at least not explicitly forbidden by law.
2: Any attempt to fight these rules is going to be very convoluted and will probably involve complicated interpretations of state laws that would likely end up in the state or federal supreme court and take a very long and difficult road. The college is aware that almost no student will question these rules to the degree of a court battle, so they have a little leeway on issuing rules that are borderline.

[Bubba1]

I woke up one morning whilst living in the dorms to find a dude in a suit standing outside my neighbor's door. On my way to the shower I asked him if he needed any help. Apparently my neighbors were running a fake ID ring out of their DORM ROOM and the FBI caught wind of it after another dorm mate got caught with their fake ID. The guy was waiting there for them to return.
My hall was the s***.

That's pretty cool. the agents that came for Mr. PCP were plain clothed, and equipped with what looked like .45's. Serious hardware. They were all business. Fortunately they didn't care about the motorcycle parked in the 2nd floor hallway or stolen street signs on the wall.

[themadscientist]

Nala, your parents already know you are a failure. A call from the college saying you drank yourself to the point of poisoning will just be the next step on your fixed trajectory. Focus on LEARNING SOMETHING AND NOT BEING CREEPY!

[Bubba1]

Nala, your parents already know you are a failure. A call from the college saying you drank yourself to the point of poisoning will just be the next step on your fixed trajectory. Focus on LEARNING SOMETHING AND NOT BEING CREEPY!

Well said. I have a suspicion his parents have no idea of the extent of his creepiness.
And he's still in full denial.

[frapjap]

That's pretty cool. the agents that came for Mr. PCP were plain clothed, and equipped with what looked like .45's. Serious hardware. They were all business. Fortunately they didn't care about the motorcycle parked in the 2nd floor hallway or stolen street signs on the wall.

Awesome story, thanks for sharing. Just one question though- given that you were teh RA, did you have any indication that he was making drugs out of his room? I'm guessing not, but but still pretty amusing.

[Bubba1]

Awesome story, thanks for sharing. Just one question though- given that you were teh RA, did you have any indication that he was making drugs out of his room? I'm guessing not, but but still pretty amusing.

No, no clue. He pretty much kept to himself. From I was told, he appeared on the FBI's radar when he ordered all the ingredients. the dope billed them all to his university account and had it all shipped to the same lab on campus. He then shuttled the chemicals plus whatever other stuff he needed to the house. I suspect the FBI waited for him to start production before busting him.

It was a completely insane house to live in. I loved it.

[Bubba1]

To get this thread back on topic. Nala, just don't drink alcohol or do drugs and the laws will become a non-issue. Besides, given your track record, you're destined to do it wrong, get caught, fail spectularly, blame everyone else, and look like a fool. In other words....

[DamonDread]

Kids these days

[PapaSmurf2k3]

just don't drink alcohol

I remember when someone told me that once... I LOLd.

Nala, just don't drink yourself into oblivion. No one likes taking care of alcohol poisoned creepers.