Question on fitment and "HellaFlush" Stance!

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Hello, I have a quick question on stance and fitment... I have a 98 240SX and its mud truckin' it right now on OEM Suspension and 18" Z Wheels. I want to do a "HellaFlush" VIP look with the car. What recommended front and rear wheel/tire sizes should i use and are fully adjustable coilovers enough to do the job? Do i HAVE to roll out my rear fenders or can i jus tuck and camber the wheels in a little? I'm new to this so no bashing please but any advice would be dually noted!

Again, if i can, I'd like to avoid rolling the fenders and adding any aftermarket widebody stuff to go crazy, The car will be daily driven on florida roads, but i jus want to get the chassis to floor ratio adjusted and some nice wide tires sittin pretty on her.. Thinking maybe a 17x10 +20 rear and maybe a 17x8 up front? idk, like i said.. advice will all be taken and considered! thanks!

[nando]

this has been covered time and time again... do a search ------------------------------------------------------->

YOU WILL HAVE TO ROLL YOUR FENDERS

trial and error.... trial and error

low profile skinny tires

wide front and rear wheels

18's will yield a better look

spacers

decent coilovers

adjustable every arm on the chassis

blah blah blah... you will get a lot of feedback about how its bad and will wear on your car....not good to daily...

basically, if you have to ask you shouldn't do it just yet. homework homework...learn about bumpstear, caster camber toe, tire wear,

rimtuck.com if you like to look at pictures

Airbags are another rout you can look into.

IBTL material?

[Ridiculous Wobble]

this has been covered time and time again... do a search ------------------------------------------------------->

YOU WILL HAVE TO ROLL YOUR FENDERS

trial and error.... trial and error

low profile skinny tires

wide front and rear wheels

18's will yield a better look

spacers

decent coilovers

adjustable every arm on the chassis

blah blah blah... you will get a lot of feedback about how its bad and will wear on your car....not good to daily...

basically, if you have to ask you shouldn't do it just yet. homework homework...learn about bumpstear, caster camber toe, tire wear,

rimtuck.com if you like to look at pictures

Airbags are another rout you can look into.

IBTL material?

very informative, thank you. i guess lock the thread if no one else has anything to write about.

[Hoffman5982]

You don't have to replace every arm. Start with coilovers and rear upper control arms. 17s can look just as good as 18s. Hell, i've seen 16s look decent.

Yes, this question has been answered, but it doesn't necessarily need to be locked. Calm down

[Ridiculous Wobble]

You don't have to replace every arm. Start with coilovers and rear upper control arms. 17s can look just as good as 18s. Hell, i've seen 16s look decent.

Yes, this question has been answered, but it doesn't necessarily need to be locked. Calm down

I honestly was liking the way the 17's looked. Although i would LIKE to have function over form.. i LOOOVE the whole VIP look and i think chrome would look great on my S14 with the color that it is... Anyways coils are first... i have adjustable toe for the rear but no camber adjustment. Assuming now that i might as well buy rear upper control arms with my coilovers.. could prolly get both an keep it under 1k, hopefully.

[mudvayne9790]

lol sounds like a bad idea already. Kinda depends on ur taste in hellaflush. Some people like a whole lot of camber with super stretched tires. Some prefer a more subtle look. might want to raise your estimated price though.

[Hoffman5982]

It's going to be near impossible to get coils AND RUCAs for under a grand and have good quality, unless you get a used set. Mudvayne mentioned a lot of camber. That's something to take into consideration considering this is your DD. Most don't want to have to buy new tires every 6 months. I would try my best to avoid an ungodly amount of camber

[Ridiculous Wobble]

It's going to be near impossible to get coils AND RUCAs for under a grand and have good quality, unless you get a used set. Mudvayne mentioned a lot of camber. That's something to take into consideration considering this is your DD. Most don't want to have to buy new tires every 6 months. I would try my best to avoid an ungodly amount of camber

well as of right now i will stick to more driveability than going super stretched tires and overly done camber angles i jus want it to sit semi flush i guess and look clean.. while maintaining driveability

Not interested in used coilovers tbh.. but maybe used RUCAS if they are in good shape.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Also another question i have.. is it possible to roll the fenders WITHOUT cracking the paint? maint reason i dont want to roll them is just because i want to avoid body shop work.

[EnjoiNismo]

Well nando summed it up lol.

You will be rolling/pulling the fenders if you want it to look decent, since you don't want to do over fenders.

EDIT: Yes you can roll the fenders without ruining the paint. Just use a heat gun.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Also another question i have.. is it possible to roll the fenders WITHOUT cracking the paint? main reason i dont want to roll them is just because i want to avoid body shop work.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Well nando summed it up lol.

You will be rolling/pulling the fenders if you want it to look decent, since you don't want to do over fenders.

EDIT: Yes you can roll the fenders without ruining the paint. Just use a heat gun.

See your stance looks good and it looks functional. What do you have done to your suspension and how hard was it to achieve your goals, there?


These are 17x9 all the way around and im happy with this look. could this be achieved with only coilovers to start?

[EnjoiNismo]

Thanks,
The rear at the time of the picture was only RUCA's and Coilovers. However I went lower and it required for myself to get rear toe links.

It's not to hard, just trial and error depending on the rim specs you get.

EDIT: 17x9, depending on the offset say, +12. You can fit with just coilovers, however i'd recommend RUCAs if you can also.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Thanks,
The rear at the time of the picture was only RUCA's and Coilovers. However I went lower and it required for myself to get rear toe links.

It's not to hard, just trial and error depending on the rim specs you get.

EDIT: 17x9, depending on the offset say, +12. You can fit with just coilovers, however i'd recommend RUCAs if you can also.

Okay thats a fact then. I will be purchasing RUCAS at the time i get my coils.. might as well do it thr right way the first time, my car deserves it. The wheels in the pic are +15 on F&R still doable with coils/rucas?

[EnjoiNismo]

Very much doable. You WILL need to roll your fenders.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Very much doable. You WILL need to roll your fenders.

uggghhh not liking that.. buuut like i asked earlier... is it possible to do it without cracking the paint? cant i jus bend the under tabs that line the inside of the wheel well upwards?

**EDIT** Main reason im trying to avoid paint so much is because the paint is a custom BMW silver and i have noooo clue what the exact color is.. =/

[EnjoiNismo]

Haha, understandable.

IF the paint was prepped well and there is no bondo on there, and you use a heat gun. It shouldn't crack at all.

I've rolled a couple of peoples fenders and the paint has never cracked but once due to there being bondo on it.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Haha, understandable.

IF the paint was prepped well and there is no bondo on there, and you use a heat gun. It shouldn't crack at all.

I've rolled a couple of peoples fenders and the paint has never cracked but once due to there being bondo on it.

well the carfax on the car was clean, no accidents so it's only safe to assume that she's never been repaired in the rear.. here's to hoping the paint doesnt chip!!! what's the best way to do this? should i take it to a body shop with a fender rolling machine orrrr?? i mean ive seen people do it with a round pipe but u wont catch me raping my baby with no metal pipe!

[EnjoiNismo]

There are DIY's on how to do it.

I didn't use a heatgun on my paint because I couldn't find it at the time and it didn't crack.
You don't need to take it to a body shop to do it.
It's really simple to do.
I would recommend a real fender roller and yeah not using a metal pipe lol.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

There are DIY's on how to do it.

I didn't use a heatgun on my paint because I couldn't find it at the time and it didn't crack.
You don't need to take it to a body shop to do it.
It's really simple to do.
I would recommend a real fender roller and yeah not using a metal pipe lol.

thanks for the help, man.

[EnjoiNismo]

No problem sir! Nice looking car

[Ridiculous Wobble]

No problem sir! Nice looking car

lol thanks again! ^__^ she cost what she looks like. trust me.

[simmode1]

Thinking maybe a 17x10 +20 rear and maybe a 17x8 up front?

17x10+20 all around. In the Hellaflush game, its GO BIG OR GO HOME!

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Thinking maybe a 17x10 +20 rear and maybe a 17x8 up front?

17x10+20 all around. In the Hellaflush game, its GO BIG OR GO HOME!

Ya well i'm ballin on a budget as of right now even tho the car looks like money, i cant afford tires every 6 months for some 18x11's lmao

Will consider 17x10 rear and 17x9 Front tho.. +20 rear +12 front

[The_caveman]

Hella flush= lame hella foose= pimp status

Just playing it's kinda a inside joke to traction optional...

Coilovers coilovers coilovers all the way....I don't see any sense in adjustable arms unless the car is going to be tracked

[TN4sty 305]

Before you even think about being "hellaflush" you gotta take into account how low you must be in order to pull it off. You can just have it dropped a bit, it must be slammed. Plus, your going to be on low-profile tires and 17s which will make your car even lower. You must ask yourself, will this effect my daily commute? Is this going to be my daily? How much money will I spend on tires monthly? Depending on your setup, you will have to adjust your camber a lot for it to look good. This means your tires will be wearing fast so I would say buy some extra sets of tires off hand. What is your goal for the stretch? If its too extreme it will run the risk of it busting just by hitting a pothole. Make sure you get "QUALITY" Suspension parts. They are the most important of the car. Don't cheap out or you will get yourself into a really bad situation.

Buy a kit that comes with all the arms for about 400 on enjuku. I have them installed and they are wonderful. Some coilovers slam the car more than others so search more into that. I have Stance GR+ and they slammmmmed my car lol. Your looking at roughly 1500+ on suspension and 1500 on wheels/tires/spacers. So guesstimate 3k Plus in the build. Plus if you want sideskirts and lips, you are going to be either breaking them or tearing them off if your commute is rough so get ready to buy a lot if zipties.

[simmode1]

Ya well i'm ballin on a budget as of right now even tho the car looks like money, i cant afford tires every 6 months for some 18x11's lmao

Will consider 17x10 rear and 17x9 Front tho.. +20 rear +12 front

There's no 'balling' involved in the setup I have in mind. What is involved? XXR + Megan...LOL

I'll let you in on a little secret that brings it all together:


But you're thinking smart though. Thats a decent setup you just mentioned. Do that. I say 17x10 up front lightly, but seriously, that sh*t is NOT for beginners, the faint of heart or those who lack determination.

[TN4sty 305]

I mean technically you can but you can't really be HellaFlush on a budget. The only wheels atm that are remotely budget for you to be slammed on are XXR 526 or 527s but most are still out if stock lol. Imo 18x10 all around or 10 front 10.5-11 rear (the wider the better ) with some nice stretched slammed with decent negative camber would be perfect. Wheels are so expensive . What part if Florida are you in? I'm in Miami and being slammed here sucks. So many potholes lol

[Ridiculous Wobble]

I mean technically you can but you can't really be HellaFlush on a budget. The only wheels atm that are remotely budget for you to be slammed on are XXR 526 or 527s but most are still out if stock lol. Imo 18x10 all around or 10 front 10.5-11 rear (the wider the better ) with some nice stretched slammed with decent negative camber would be perfect. Wheels are so expensive . What part if Florida are you in? I'm in Miami and being slammed here sucks. So many potholes lol

I am in central florida, Inverness area. I frequent to clearwater ALOT since im from there and EVERYONE i know is from there but honestly the roads up here in central florida aren't too bad at all. Clearwater on the other hand has a ton of construction an stuff not so much as potholes tho.. But i've driven a slammed car before for over a year i can handle most the driveways, speedbumps, etc..

I was looking at the XXR's why the hell are they priced so low? is it a good quality wheel? i mean damn for that price i wouldnt be suprised if they were built from solid steel and weighed 70lb's each.

i dont want the polished lips to come poppin off the f*** while im drivin an s***.. is it really worth it to cut corners on a wheel of such low cost? i was entertaining the rent-to-own wheel dealer that is local here called "Rent-n-roll" they have a huge selection and many sizes/offsets available PLUS they get u tires! idk, tell me what you guys think.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Ya well i'm ballin on a budget as of right now even tho the car looks like money, i cant afford tires every 6 months for some 18x11's lmao

Will consider 17x10 rear and 17x9 Front tho.. +20 rear +12 front

There's no 'balling' involved in the setup I have in mind. What is involved? XXR + Megan...LOL

I'll let you in on a little secret that brings it all together:


But you're thinking smart though. Thats a decent setup you just mentioned. Do that. I say 17x10 up front lightly, but seriously, that sh*t is NOT for beginners, the faint of heart or those who lack determination.

What are those in ur pic exactly? looks like the base of the front shock but i cant tell.