Question on fitment and "HellaFlush" Stance!

[costa_rican13]

yes base of the front shock and are longer (as in moving the shock away from the two mounting holes) than the ones come one the shock from factory. i have megan streets and they great

[simmode1]

I mean technically you can but you can't really be HellaFlush on a budget. The only wheels atm that are remotely budget for you to be slammed on are XXR 526 or 527s but most are still out if stock lol.

Huh? Sure you can. Just gotta explore every option. But it's all about personal preference.

What are those in ur pic exactly? looks like the base of the front shock but i cant tell.

Those are Megans extended coilover bracket mounts. They replace the original bracket mounts on Megan Streets or Tracks and give you an extra 25mm's of clearence between the rear of your wheel and the coilover strut. With this, you have a greater range of offsets and widths you can run up front. For example: Most 9.5 inch wide wheels need an offset of +12 to +17 to just barely clear Megan Street and most other coilovers before coming into contact with the strut. To run a 10 inch wide wheel up front and clear coilovers, offset needs to be EVEN lower, like +5 or something. Some ppl get around this with S14 LCA's, which push the wheel outward & give you about 10mm more clearance. The lower you go in offset, the more likely you'll need wide fenders though.

But if you wanna run wide wheels under stock front fenders, the Megan extended brackets are are godsend. You can potentially run a 17x10+20 and not worry about the wheel hitting the coilover. But then other issues will arise, like massive tire rubbing everywhere. Nothing a hammer and some time can't fix though.

[Dittoz7]

Damn I hate that they don't make custom sizes for those wheels in 17's. Grrrr

[Ridiculous Wobble]

This has been EXTREMELY informative. thanks to all of you who have been polite an cool about this question. I only want the best for my kouki. It may sound pathetic to say this, but it's def the nicest ANYTHING i've ever owned and i busted my a** for her too. So thanks again to all of you for fillin me in on this i'll keep you all updated on the progress and stuff so keep an eye out for more threads relevant to my plans

[simmode1]

Oh duh! I couldn't see your pics when I was at work since they were blocked, but now that I'm home and can see your car...

I'd go with Hyper Silver XXR 521's in 18x10 all around if I were in your place and trying to keep it cheap.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwaNx9YLGOg[/youtube]

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Oh duh! I couldn't see your pics when I was at work since they were blocked, but now that I'm home and can see your car...

I'd go with Hyper Silver XXR 521's in 18x10 all around if I were in your place and trying to keep it cheap.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwaNx9YLGOg[/youtube]

BEAUTIFUL! i LOVE it!! i'll be keeping the USDM Front bumper tho and adding the OEM lip.. Yes, i'd like that exact look for my kouki minus the blue mesh. i'd go with either color matching or chrome.

[slidestyle69]

I ran a couple different setups with an s14 that might help you get an idea.

1.) 17x9 +15 all the way around with a tire size 235/40's all the way around also. My car was on lowering springs. It was nicely flush in the front and required no roll on the fronts. The quarter panels didn't need a roll either. I did however have to fold the inner lip of the quarter in but i personally don't find that a bad thing. Its unnoticeable unless anytyou have no idea how to do hing. I really didn't have to do fold it up at all but it was sorta close and I felt like it was a good idea to prevent the back tire from rubbing.

I folded it in by this procedure. I used an angle grinder to make small notches in the lip to help it fold and a rubber mallet and in some points i used a hammer and a block of wood. You want to stay away from the bottom of the quarter( your working on the inside of the wheel well) as it raises the possibly of chipping the paint. You will have to do this unless you change tire sizes or or pull in more camber than what i ran which would be harder on the inside of the tires. I did not have adjustable RUCA's.

pictures of the fitment with this setup.



2.) 18x9 +24/18x10 +34. I mounted these on a friends s14 for fitment curiosity. It was lowered with coilovers and no RUCA"s however i would suggest getting the arms for camber adjustment if you want to adjust and dial in the smallest amount of camber you would have to run. This wheel size seemed just about perfect. There was still room inbetween the tire/wheel and the quarter to move around without rubbing but inner lip was a necessity. The fronts were no where near a roll but it was slammed pretty hard and the tires rubbed the inner fender wheel.

[simmode1]

BEAUTIFUL! i LOVE it!! i'll be keeping the USDM Front bumper tho and adding the OEM lip.. Yes, i'd like that exact look for my kouki minus the blue mesh. i'd go with either color matching or chrome.

Good taste.

I'm pretty sure his aero is all OEM. JDM S14 Zenki Navan side skirts. JDM S14 Kouki rear bumper and valances. Wheels are 18x10's with probably 225/40/18's stretched on them and 20mm+ spacers, most likely

Before you decide to color match or chrome the 521's, have a good look at the Hyper Silvers on this Zenki. I think they plenty shiny enough already...

[Ridiculous Wobble]

BEAUTIFUL! i LOVE it!! i'll be keeping the USDM Front bumper tho and adding the OEM lip.. Yes, i'd like that exact look for my kouki minus the blue mesh. i'd go with either color matching or chrome.

Good taste.

I'm pretty sure his aero is all OEM. JDM S14 Zenki Navan side skirts. JDM S14 Kouki rear bumper and valances. Wheels are 18x10's with probably 225/40/18's stretched on them and 20mm+ spacers, most likely

Before you decide to color match or chrome the 521's, have a good look at the Hyper Silvers on this Zenki. I think they plenty shiny enough already...

yea, the hyper silver would do just fine, actually. jus steering far away from that blue he used on that kouki. (bleh) Hyper silver it is, lol! they look good. so glad i have this thread as a reference now XD

On another note, Yes his bumpers and side skirts, etc are all JDM OEM Silvia K's parts. I will be adding side skirts and a rear valance but i am keeping the front bumper USDM OEM as i stated before, i love the USDM front on this car


**EDIT** I was jus looking closer at the zenki, it doesnt appear that he has his rear fenders stretched or rolled severely. Maybe he jus bent up the inner lip that rubs? hoping i dont have to stretch mine, man... If i do, i'll pay a shop to do it so it's their responsibility..

[simmode1]

Yeah, I prefer the USDM S14 Kouki bumper too. Reminds me of a bulldog... Just seems more menacing than the JDM bumper...

As for that Team Nuisance S14's fenders, I'm certain they are rolled at the very least. The amount of fender pulling required will depend on:
1) How low of an offset you end up with because of using possible spacers.
2) How much negative Camber you dialed in. More neg camber = less pulling.

But those wheels come in 18x10+25. The main reason ppl would use spacers on those wheels is because that +25 offset on a 10 inch wide wheel won't clear their coilovers. They end up using 20mm+ spacers which of course, push the wheel/tire away from the coilover but closer to the fender, making fender pulling more neccessary. But, again, if you get Megan coilovers with their extended brackets, you don't need those spacers.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Yeah, I prefer the USDM S14 Kouki bumper too. Reminds me of a bulldog... Just seems more menacing than the JDM bumper...

As for that Team Nuisance S14's fenders, I'm certain they are rolled at the very least. The amount of fender pulling required will depend on:
1) How low of an offset you end up with because of using possible spacers.
2) How much negative Camber you dialed in. More neg camber = less pulling.

But those wheels come in 18x10+25. The main reason ppl would use spacers on those wheels is because that +25 offset on a 10 inch wide wheel won't clear their coilovers. They end up using 20mm+ spacers which of course, push the wheel/tire away from the coilover but closer to the fender, making fender pulling more neccessary. But, again, if you get Megan coilovers with their extended brackets, you don't need those spacers.

i meant on the zenki. HIS fenders dont seem to be rolled. Unless that car is team nuisance as well..

[simmode1]

Oh. My bad. That car has on 22mm spacers, I believe (remembering from when I saw the owner post it on the other forum...). So that makes the wheels effectively 18x10+3. I think he's running 215/40/18 tires though. Thats how he's clearing those fenders so easily, stretching rubber bands onto those wheels up front. I have no idea what his camber specs are though.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Oh. My bad. That car has on 22mm spacers, I believe (remembering from when I saw the owner post it on the other forum...). So that makes the wheels effectively 18x10+3. I think he's running 215/40/18 tires though. Thats how he's clearing those fenders so easily, stretching rubber bands onto those wheels up front. I have no idea what his camber specs are though.

is that ur car in your sig? if so what ya got goin on there? looks good.

[simmode1]

Man, hell no that ain't mine...lol

I just liked the Because Racecar thing... haha

Drifting is cool and all, but I would never thrash my cars like that. Well, maybe... I did just buy my 3rd 240 last week... hehehe

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Man, hell no that ain't mine...lol

I just liked the Because Racecar thing... haha

Drifting is cool and all, but I would never thrash my cars like that. Well, maybe... I did just buy my 3rd 240 last week... hehehe

lol if i had the money for an S13 drift car, i'd be all over it.. i wouldnt care how bad of a PoS it was as long as the drivetrain was good haha

[simmode1]

Yeah, none of my cars are total POS's. They are still mostly stock, but pretty clean and only one of them doesn't run. I wouldn't ever spend any money on an unredeemable POS.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

this kouki is the nicest car i've ever owned and ill be damned if she doesnt get only the finest parts...

[Ridiculous Wobble]

how do you think these would look on my car, man? same color.

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-006-Wheel ... 9142cp.htm

[DanThaMan]

http://www.rimtuck.com/search/thumbnail ... &model=S14&
BOOM!

[Ridiculous Wobble]

^ lol.. been there, fapped to that.

[simmode1]

how do you think these would look on my car, man? same color.

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-006-Wheel ... 9142cp.htm

Interesting. I'd rather see those wheels on a black car. But over all, I prefer the 521's. They're lighter, wider, bigger stepped lip, classier looking, lower offset... yada yada yada...

this kouki is the nicest car i've ever owned and ill be damned if she doesnt get only the finest parts...

I guess all this Megan & XXR talk has been pointless, in that case... lol. Cause seriously, that stuff is not what I would call 'fine quality'. But it works.

You want the finest parts assembled together for your Hellaflush Wheel/Tire setup?
-Custom DIY Koni/Ground Control coilovers.
-Driftworks Geomaster Hub knuckles.
-SPL suspension arms
-BBS LM wheels.
-Dunlop Z1 Star Spec tires

Easily over $4500.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

how do you think these would look on my car, man? same color.

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-006-Wheel ... 9142cp.htm

Interesting. I'd rather see those wheels on a black car. But over all, I prefer the 521's. They're lighter, wider, bigger stepped lip, classier looking, lower offset... yada yada yada...

this kouki is the nicest car i've ever owned and ill be damned if she doesnt get only the finest parts...

I guess all this Megan & XXR talk has been pointless, in that case... lol. Cause seriously, that stuff is not what I would call 'fine quality'. But it works.

You want the finest parts assembled together for your Hellaflush Wheel/Tire setup?
-Custom DIY Koni/Ground Control coilovers.
-Driftworks Geomaster Hub knuckles.
-SPL suspension arms
-BBS LM wheels.
-Dunlop Z1 Star Spec tires

Easily over $4500.

-________- Megans and XXR's will suffice for now XD

[costa_rican13]

yea no reason for 4500 on suspension for a DD car. i've about 1050 for coils, toe rods, and camber arms. i'm doing just fine. and can go plenty low and drop the frame on the ground and wheel off the ground stuck in the wheel wells. your idea was unneccesary.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

Think i found my wheels...

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-527-18x9- ... 89547n.htm

[simmode1]

^^^Man, those 527's are blowing up. XXR's got a bonafide hit on their hands with that one...

yea no reason for 4500 on suspension for a DD car. i've about 1050 for coils, toe rods, and camber arms. i'm doing just fine. and can go plenty low and drop the frame on the ground and wheel off the ground stuck in the wheel wells. your idea was unnecessary.

Unnecessary depends on your standards and goals. Sure, your setup will work just fine if you don't really care about proper dampening, suspension geometry, or the overall quality of those pieces. If you don't care about that stuff, thats fine. Neither do I... lol

I was just informing him of the realistic price if he really intended to use "only the finest parts...". That stuff is fine, but certainly overkill for most of us.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

What do ya think, simmode? diggin them? i think the matte bronze will look bangin with the color of my car and to further contrast the wheels and paint i want to do a carbon hood/trunk lid. Opinions?

[simmode1]

I love how light the 527's are, but I'm not a big fan of their design. They look great from an angle where you can really see their concavity, but straight on? They remind me of skiny fish bones. No thanks.

I'm not hatin' on them, but for cheap, concave wheels, I much prefer P45R's or Grids. But hey, at least the 527's are an original design and not a knockoff...