Q45 Zeal Coil Overs and Complete Sway Bar kit a Reality

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Hey people, I've already talked to some venders and japanese performance companies. They told me that they are willing to start making what ever we desire (headers, sway bars, coil over kits, cat-backs, pulley kits, full CAI kits, etc.) if I can prove that there will be a demand.

They are going to start with getting Coil overs from Zeal, and Sway Bars from Suspension Techniques. They said that if we can fill the quota for these items they will begin with what ever parts we want in production for the Q45.

I will get all the details and post them later tonight, but I need to know who will be interested in trying to get people to move on these.

For the Sway Bar kit with a 32mm front and 27mm rears I will need atleast 25 people.

For the Zeal Fully Adjustable Coil Over kits I will need atleast 10 people to place the order.

I will get the pricing and post it tonight, I'm at work right now and I left all the information at home.

If this works out we will also start working on a full production, fully bolt on turbo kit as well.


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I am interested in much of the info above and will put them in order of interest. Some of the items I have already ordered that are similar in function and will be installed within the next week as soon as they arrive so I don't think that I will be needing them or want to spend more bucks on the same item.

1. Full CAI Kits2. Headers3. Cat-backs4. Pulley Kits

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Pulley kit and cold air intake would be sweet!

Although, there are some drawbacks to a pulley kit...

Coilovers might be popular DEPENDING on pricing - Most Q owners are pretty happy with the TokicoHP and Eibach combo, which is under $500. Keep that in mind.

I only wish all this interest in Q aftermarket stuff had started 10 years ago... :)

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Is there a possibility they will make parts for the 2nd gen Q?

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Right now the main concern that all the companies have is the market. They want to know what is the market like for the Q45. Now the problem is that most of them want to see if someone else can get a full order before they start making parts. The only company that said that they will do one for sure is Zeal with their Coil Over Kit.

Everyone else said they would start taking orders if we Fill the Zeal Coil Over quota of 10 coil over kits. If this happens they will begin pushing anything we ask for performance wise.

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The difficulty we have run into in the past is that most Q45's are unfortunately owned by people who can ill-afford to maintain or mod them...

Add to that the high price of ANY part with a limited production (not like a Civic where you can make 20K parts and sell them all) and it tends to restrain the market - from both sides.

Still, it's WELL worth trying for, as all your hard-core Q people are here on NICO!

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I'm doing my best... I'm getting everything I mentioned as a custom setup for my car... but they are refusing to do a Retail setup of it unless I can make a market for it...

And yeah I am seeing that is hard, cause everything is going to cost.

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After driving a variety of Qs, this is what I want to do to mine

Immediate:Rear sway bar and FSTB4.08JWT ECU

I am very happy with my tokicos, and I probably wouldnt be interested in getting coilovers..... I still want my plush ride!!! Stilll debating on the eibachs, as they dont really help handling at all.....

If you could keep the sway bars under what it costs from scottsdale (275 i think), id be up for it!!!

Later:Forced induction

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Wes....you can have my old sway bar from my car as it is a touring model. The cost would be the shipping & handling, that it nothing more. I am having the 20mm put on my car hopefully this weekend. You will need to get all the mounting hardware and rubber bushings yourself, maybe Joe can help. I ordered all new rubber stuff and I think it was about $50 from Joe versus ordering the entire kit as I already had all the other stuff. Send me an email and let me know if you are interested, otherwise to the trash it goes.

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EMAIL SENT. Cant let this one go by!!!

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knghtryde wrote:I'm doing my best... I'm getting everything I mentioned as a custom setup for my car... but they are refusing to do a Retail setup of it unless I can make a market for it...

And yeah I am seeing that is hard, cause everything is going to cost.


It's OK - You definitely are on the right track!

If nothing else, you'll have a sweet Q45!

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I'm currently building a Motor for the Q45 with a 9:1 compression also. I don't know if it's going to work out as planned and I know it's gonna take me a while because I do work full time and have a wife and son, but I wanna build a lower compression Q45 engine so that I can throw on a TT set up from a Z32 with custom manifolds with all the stock smog fittings.

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Ill be waiting for the 27mm RSB.. :D

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The won't be selling them seperatly.... I was thinking of having them make the rear 28mm, and the front 32mm... I think that would be a perfect match for the Q45 cause of it's weight.

And those I haven't got a price on, but they did tell me that I had to get atleast 25 ordered through them or they where going to be a NO go....

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And right now I'm seriously doubting I can come up with the numbers that the manufacturers are demanding.

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How much are they going to be.. if we could get 10, maybe it would be worth getting 15 more and trying to sell them on the internet.....?

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i'd be interested in hearing more on the sway bars, possibly the pulley kit. need to know what kind of cost we'd be looking at. is the CAI really worth doing. i know alot of the talk around here says the improvements are marginal at best, and could neg. effect the engine. just wondering??

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The question is... Would there really be a market for aftermarket sway bar sets.

These will be full sway bar sets, with urethane bushings and all mounting hardware designed to handle the large bars.

And these bars will not be hollow like most nissan stock bars.

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Quote »The question is... Would there really be a market for aftermarket sway bar sets.

These will be full sway bar sets, with urethane bushings and all mounting hardware designed to handle the large bars.

And these bars will not be hollow like most nissan stock bars.

[/quote]Which should be a good selling point.. Im sure we could sell 10... If they are good quality, Im sure we could get all kinds of people to get them..... I could think of at least 15 people on NIOC that might be interested....

Jeff.. I dont think a CAI kit would be worthwhile on the Q..

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We are looking at between $400 to $450 for the Sway Bar SET.

Like I said before, this would be both F and R sway bar, will all hardware and Urethane Bushings, and if 30 are ordered it's more like $380 to $420.

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$400 is worth it!!!!!

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Okay... I'm gonna get my hands on what ST needs from me.... It should take me about a week to get exact pricing...

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i'll be doing the blue shocks, hopefully upper links and tension bars too (and the fstb!!). my question is, on top of these improvements to the suspension, how much better is the ride with the new sway bars???? this will be the tightest car i've ever owned!!!

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The ride will not be affected, only during hard cornering will you notice any difference...

So still plush and comfy, but can take corners like little cars..

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Basically you will have a very comforable ride, but when you give it gas and hit a corner you'll be able to stay behind that camero that's always gotten away from you in the turns....

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I'm interested in the Sway Bar set.

Nick :)

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Knight,

Nice job. May be hard to find that many people for suspension upgrades, as the existing options, are fairly solid... I'd be willing to swap out the bars on my A, if you can get something better...

ANY performance parts, are welcome...

As for a twin turbo kit, are crazy S.O.B. Australian friends, have already came up with that... I am still inquiring as to if the intake manifold, can fit into a Q45... We need to come up with custom ECU tuning, at a reasonable price, if we are going to do any sort of forced induction

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I think we could talk to JWT into doing a custom ECU if we got enough guys in on it.

Nick :)

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They already did one for the supercharger project, so Idon't see why not.. They are the king pimp mack daddys when it comes to nissan ecu tuning..

Get me a turbo for my car, and I will worship you for the rest of my known life!

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Who chose 27-28 mm as the rear bar.........that is 3.33 times stiffer than the 20 mm bar.........the ride with the closely coupled 24 mm solid bar was brutal over South and North Carolina Interstates.

The market needs a 23 mm hollow bar, not a full road race system, if you are going to appeal to a broad spectrum.


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