Q45 powered S13 update PICS (your 56k will cry)

[SeanDean]

Here's some pictures of the project so far. Hopefully we don't smoke Photobucket in just a few hours...

I've been working on 240's since 1999 and always loved the S14 bodystyle before I ever knew what it was. But I had a BMW back then and have had a succession of BMW's since. I decided I wanted a real project about a year ago and bought the S13 coupe you see here. IMHO the only better looking S-chassis than the Coupe S13 is the S15.

Hurricane Frances killed my '95 325is, so I bought a workhorse Previa van and decided to really finish the S13. About the only thing I had done in the garage here at my apartment was strip the car to a shell with windows.

If you can't tell from the hood pictures, I'm doing a S14 Kouki front on the car. The S14 Kouki front end just flows so much better with the sharp angular S13 coupe than it does on the rounded S14 body, and most people I know agree that as a whole package, the Zenki flows better.

So anyway, I'm not gonna caption each picture, it's way too late and I need to go to bed, but basically what we have here is as follows, in approximate order:

1989 S13 coupe, 90% straight body, rust mostly near battery tray. The shell now weighs about 300lbs with windows still, all insulating material removed.

My car being taken to the shop where I'm making the cage and seam-welding it all.

MA70 Toyota Supra Turbo towing 2 axle trailer .

Motor-mounts in mockup and final product, (yes the stanchions are based on 240sx LCA's, S13 specifically).

S13 front x-member with original mount pads removed and custom 2 piece motor-mounts.

S15 rear subframe with Z32 uprights and spring/shocks.

Z33 transmission (39inches/100cm long!!!) This bugger is gonna require some transmission tunnel mods.

1997 Q45 VH41DE.

Test fitting in a S14 Silvia front clip.

Inconel headers from a JUDD V8 with v-band collectors (I'm still entertaining the idea of a single turbo) Car is using these headers either way though.



Here's a photoshop of something near the finished car; minus the wheels and GP kit, maybe an Ings+1 kit in its place.

-Sean

Modified by freethinker at 4:13 AM 11/14/2004

[Zydeco]

well, Hummmm. I realy like the S14 Kouki lights on the coupe.

[DAEDALUS]

There is certainly a special place in heaven for you.

[Doomed2Walk]

Photoshop makes the front wheels and front fenders look weird, but it's just photoshop. I'd say good luck, but you can do one better, you sound prepared and rich ;P Love to see the project when it's completed. I assume it's a drag only car?

[Axel Grungy]

that looks sweet, never thought of putting s14 kouki on a s13 coupe. thumbs up!!

[S13CoupeLuvr]

Good God... That... car... will be... a flucking beast!!!

[574-240sx]

Thats going to be one fun car. Good luck with the project and keep us updated.

[S14tat]

how much power did the VK45DE of yore made?

[Nismo_Freak]

how much power did the VK45DE of yore made?

VH41DE ... difference is the manifold design between the VH45DE.

[SeanDean]

No, it won't be a drag only car. This engine weighs about 100lbs more than a KA but it will be the only thing in the engine bay, and it won't have any accessories other than the alternator. This car will have better weight distribution than a stock 240, trust me. Read some of my old posts to see how much of a balance nut I am.

S13CoupeLuvr: You'll prolly like the fender flares I'm using on the car; S13 N2 factory replicas. (the ones on the car in your avatar)

-Sean

[pnissan2]

Good Job!! Its orginal, fast, and not ricey. Keep us updated and good luck

[Nismo_Freak]

No, it won't be a drag only car. This engine weighs about 100lbs more than a KA but it will be the only thing in the engine bay, and it won't have any accessories other than the alternator. This car will have better weight distribution than a stock 240, trust me. Read some of my old posts to see how much of a balance nut I am.

S13CoupeLuvr: You'll prolly like the fender flares I'm using on the car; S13 N2 factory replicas. (the ones on the car in your avatar)

-Sean

I'd have to disagree with the 100 lb. difference but regardless, it's a cool swap to do.

Distribution is kinda a lame topic... remove the most amount of weight off the tires as possible and tune the car as such. Seems to me alot of people take distribution as such a big deal when their car still weighs 3000 lbs. with them in it. Performance is all about sacrifice.

BTW... I'm just typing what pops into my head... not really directed to you in particular.

[Dano]

ME = Love <3

-Dan

[marveluz]

WOW! cant wait to see the finished product... good job!

[AZhitman]

freethinker - You won't hurt photopost, we have more bandwidth and usable storage space than you could ever fill.

AND, a humongous badass server.

Project looks great. Ambitious, but fun! Pop into the Infiniti General area and show those guys...

Actually, the estimated 100 pound difference in engine weights is probably pretty damn close.

Remember, the VH is ALL aluminum.

Oh, and I don't think that GP car pc is photoshopped, but I could be wrong.

Glad to have you here at NICO. Welcome.

[Flicktitty]

dude your nuts thats gonna be awsome!!!!! oh......and buy the way you owe me a new key board and pair of pants lol

[D1SR240]

very nice man, keep us updated

[VmaN!]

...Oh, and I don't think that GP car pc is photoshopped, but I could be wrong.

He photoshopped the S14 front end onto the S13 coupe. If you look where the hood meets the rest of the car you can see it doesn't line up.

Cool project though, and I think the S14 front will look quite nice

[Nismo_Freak]

freethinker - You won't hurt photopost, we have more bandwidth and usable storage space than you could ever fill.

AND, a humongous badass server.

Project looks great. Ambitious, but fun! Pop into the Infiniti General area and show those guys...

Actually, the estimated 100 pound difference in engine weights is probably pretty damn close.

Remember, the VH is ALL aluminum.

Oh, and I don't think that GP car pc is photoshopped, but I could be wrong.

Glad to have you here at NICO. Welcome.

The block might weigh the same as the KA's iron ... but weigh the extra head, pistons, rods, crank material, thicker girdle, heavier crank pulley, additional main bolts, head studs, exhaust manifold, oil capacity, coolant capacity, additional fuel setup, etc. etc. etc.

Either way it's marginal to the benefits of the VH series motors in terms of power production and coolness factor.

[USsil80]

man you need twin t88 on that thing ... monster monster she would be ... but no very nice .... she should be a eye catcher when done ... god job

[SeanDean]

Thanks for the compliments everyone, keeps me goin on this thing, it's definitely uphill still.

Greg, thanks for the welcome and congratulations on acquiring NICO. Paul and Torry are personal friends of mine and I actually was roomates with both of them in Orlando back in college. I also know Rex, although not very well, but I guess you could say I'm pretty close to NICO, just haven't posted a lot or recently. I'll be sure to change that!!

Thanks again,Sean

[chandler]

so te z33 transmission bolts up or is that just to easy? also , why not use the power steering?

[AZhitman]

Ah, you're THAT Sean!

Well, then, WELCOME all the more!

Let me know if you need anything while you're here.

Glad to have your expertise, experience and enthusiasm on the board.

[elesjuan]

DAMN IT!!!!!

I've been working on a modified LQ9 install into my 240, but I haven't put together the entire motor yet.

I had my hopes up noone else would be crazy enough to do a V8.. Looks like I might have some competition sooner than I thought. Stpck the motor makes 345hp and 380lb-ft of torque. I'm looking at doing a set of Patriot Performance cylinder heads, a huge camshaft, FAST intake and PCM, headers, a nice exhaust, forged pistons, and H-Beam rods. We're looking for right about 600 foot pounds at the crank, shoudln't be far off that. When I start test fitting the motor into the chassis I'll be sure to post my photo journal

[SeanDean]

so te z33 transmission bolts up or is that just to easy? also , why not use the power steering?

Oh how I wish..... but the N/A Z32 flywheel was a bolt on and has the same exact ring gear as the Q45 flex plate, scored 1 there.

Right now I'm prepping the car for seam-welding and then cage and paint, and next big step is the transmission adapter.

As for power steering, the car will definitely have it, but it will be MR2 electric power steering pump mounted in rear seat with MOCAL cooler under rear seat floor. I'm also leaning toward a trunk mount radiator right now.

Damn the critics, I want sub-3000lb wet and better than OEM S13 weight distribution.

"Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status-quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify, or vilify them. But the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do." -"Think Different" Apple Computer

[Nismo_Freak]

Damn the critics, I want sub-3000lb wet and better than OEM S13 weight distribution.

That's not asking too much really... sub 3000 is simple, weight distribution might cost a few pennies to move everything and lighten up some stuff.

[Aries]

looks like a fun project

keep us updated with more pictures along the way :-D

[Drift Machine]

Damn, that is one uber rad 240sx.

[SeanDean]

DAMN IT!!!!!

I've been working on a modified LQ9 install into my 240, but I haven't put together the entire motor yet.

I think you would be better off with a LS1 or LS6 if you want a chevy motor. As far as I know the 6.0 motors are all iron and that will be one heavy mofo. The alum. small blocks are actually lighter than the Q45 engine since they have 1/4 the cams and much smaller heads, and they can make the same power, plus there is probably a better aftermarket for them.

There's already a few 240's with domestic engines. I have pictures of a purplish red S14 with an LT1, and there are a few Ford 5.0's in 240's which seems to work better because of the front sump and front distributor.

There's also a VH41 (old VH41) powered S13 coupe in Australia with the automatic, and some guys in texas were working on a car using a Z31 5 speed. Never heard if they finished it.

-Sean

[SeVa-S13]

I have pictures of a purplish red S14 with an LT1...

looks like a fun project