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Hows this for good inlet manifolds?

It's going into a 240Z & they'll twin turbo it for the drags.


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Those pesky hoses and injectors would be a lot easier to service!

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it'd look sweet in a Q.

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Is this done at your own shop Chally?

Fred...:)

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No Fred, I wish it was! :D

This just appeared in the latest Zoom mag we get here.

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Am I reading it right?At the bottom it says expecting in excess of 1119kw?Isnt that something like 1700 hp?Or is that for a different engine?

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No, that's correct.

The guy is going to use the VH45DE as he recons it is way underrated. He's putting it in a 240Z shell.

The engine is being rebuilt with Argo connecting rods, custom JE forged pistons with oversized wrist pins, & the crank & block will be suitably prepared.

The whole motor is being built for a Twin Turbo setup that should see in excess of the 1119KW's. (1500hp)It will be mated to a 2 speed Powerglide transmission.

When it drags, I'll let you know what happens. :D

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Oh 240Z..,I thought 240SX...

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Here's the story from OCR. Hope it's OK.

Remember Adam Clarke's twin turbo RB30/RB26 Nissan-powered 240Z from Issue 43? Well, it seems that 11 -second times are not enough for this speed demon, as currently he has a new pet project under construction that should stir quite a storm when Sydney's new drag strip is finally opened. After working for other companies for around ten years Adam decided to go solo, and the 240 is the perfect way to shovvcase his fabricating talents. Having built chassis for other drag cars, including Croydon's own H22A-powered Honda Civic, Mr Damage and the performance MetalCraft R33 GT-R tarmac rally car featured in issue 58, he knew exactly how he was going to put this weapon together. Starting with a 240Z shell, a full-chrome moly tube chassis based on an American pro-stock drag car is currently taking shape. The powerplant for this wild ride will be one of Nissan's little known VH45-DE 4.5L quad-overhead-cam V8s. When asked why the Nissan V8 and not some Aussie iron or a Toyota V8 his answerwas simple: "No one has experimented with these engines and personally I think they are very underrated." Currently the engine is being rebuilt with Argo forged connecting rods and custom JE forged pistons complete with oversized wrist pins, with the crank and block treated and suitably prepared. This whole exercise would be less than interesting if it weren't for the fact that this motor is being built for a twin-turbo set-up, that when sorted should see in excess 1119kW produced. A two-speed Powerglide transmission will be transferring the grunt rearward. Adam has fabricated a four-link drag rear end, with a braced metal 9-inch housing, floating Romac hubs, 35-spline floating axles, and Strange coil-over struts. The front relies on lightweight Strange struts and brakes, four piston alloy calipers and slotted discs. With the chassis nearing completion, Adam plans to debut the car early next year. Cashing in on his expertise Adam has just finished converting Nathan Wells' 340kW naturally-aspirated VK to watts link set-up. After catching up with Nathan at an Oran Park track day he was more than impressed, especiallyas the VK was passing Ferraris and WRXs through corners, not just down the straight.

If you're in need of a drag chassis, rear end conversion, or even exhaust headers you can reach Adam Clarke Fabricalions on O404 186 729.

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Chally,

I missed this issue of Zoom!

What number is it.

Regards

AGM

PS: I may have found someone to do a build up on my spare 1990 engine.

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AGM,It's the latest one. It's number 60.

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This is great news for us Q45 junkies. Somebody is doing some development work on our engine.

I would like to know how the VH45DE holds up. Please keep us posted Chally.

Thanks.

-sijoko

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Can we copy this thread into the Z-car forum (and the 240 forum as well)?

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done into Z, but 240 is not related IMHO; cuz its 240Z not 240SX>

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AGM, I just noticed your PS. What are your intentions with the spare motor, ie: how far will you mod it? :D

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Chally,

John Zappier is really interested in doing a build up on this engine as he is really impressed by the design. (I have the heads off it). Here in the West 'ZAPS RAT' Monaro is legendary in the drag scene.

Greg Gower has also expressed interest in doing the heads.

He built the 'Green Macchine' Top Fuel Funny Car.

A friend of mine wants to put it in an RX7 drag car.

It really depends on the cost to do a build up.

I will ring Adam Clarke to see who is building his engine and see how it performs.

I am running 6psi only, with stock internals.

My ultimate dream would be to build a VH45DE like Adam Clarketo win the Summernat Dyno shoot out.

Harrop stoker crank, JE forged pistons, Eagle rods, cams, flow tested heads, should give me a far go.

If I ever built this engine I would put it in only for the shootout in my Q45 and then put it in a drag car.

What I really think will happen though, is that I will run around with my current set up and as the engine states to show signs of tiring, I will slowly build up this engine with mild internal upgrades to suit forced induction at say 10-12 pounds.

Building a performace engine (matched to the supercharger) while the car is still on the road will take out the hassle in building the engine, as I can build it at my own pace.

Realistically, I will just build a mild VH45DE that will allow me to safley bump in a few more pounds boost and call it a day.

Regards

AGM

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:cool: :smoker

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I wonder if there is a higher capacity oil pump available?

Seems like some Japanese tuner would have a higher capcity pump with the plumbing necessary to squirt the bottom of the pistons for better cooling. De rigueur in boosted engines.

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That is a farken beautiful engine. My plan is also to twin turbo a VH45 but i wasnt sure if it could stand 1000hp after seeing this im more determined and stick it into an LJ Torana I may give this guy a call.

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Welcome to the Forum Bart. Good to see another Aussie. That makes about 4 of us. (that I know of)

Whats your ride?

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2 door LJ Torana with vl turbo.

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Nice sleeper!

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palmerwmd wrote:Oh 240Z..,I thought 240SX...

Fred...:oface


What kind of comment is that Fred?? hehe. How do you expect to get any traction with that kind of power? Just because you have 1500hp doesnt mean you're gonna run 6's in the 1/4 mile...

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It goes pretty hard its boosted to 15psi intercooled, i draged a GTS R33 and blew it im pretty happy with it, the RB30 has a few k;s on it but it doesnt miss a beat doesnt use any oil its smooth as a babys bum, great motor but i want to upgrade to the VH45 twin turbo if it fits which i will hopfully find out soon.

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Keep me in touch. I'm in the Blacktown area.

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maxnix wrote:I wonder if there is a higher capacity oil pump available?

Seems like some Japanese tuner would have a higher capcity pump with the plumbing necessary to squirt the bottom of the pistons for better cooling. De rigueur in boosted engines.


good point. also what about the valves, what are they made of? As on the Z32's a difference between the n/a and TT was the lifters. one of stainless steel, the other was (can't remember the crazy name) a super hardened material.

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I actully payed a visit to Adam Clarke the guy with the VH45 in the 240zx drag car it looks fantastic, full tube chasiss and the little power plant is sitting in there like a pearl. I got the measurements off it and it looks like it will fit in the LJ. Next step is to buy one and do the conversion, should be fun and games.

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Chally wrote:Welcome to the Forum Bart. Good to see another Aussie. That makes about 4 of us. (that I know of)

Whats your ride?


Count in another one guys. I'm from victoria, and i'm busting to buy a JDM 180sx S13/200sx S14 and drop in a twin turbo VH45. :D

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SSS wrote:Count in another one guys. I'm from victoria, and i'm busting to buy a JDM 180sx S13/200sx S14 and drop in a twin turbo VH45. :D


Its been done before so you shouldnt have a problem fitting it in.

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How much would it cost to drop in a slightly modified VH45DE into a 1969 240z. I'm just wondering. Also, how about a 5spd conversion to go with it


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