Project for myself and some freinds

[Onizuka]

89240sx you are SO funny. So basically your telling me your not man enough to admit the facts?

[89240sx]

I have not seen any facts to back up that statement yet

[Onizuka]

all the parts lists are right on the sites, buddy.

[Cyberkreig]

I'm not talking about bottom ends. Im talking about radiators, coolant hoses, vacuum hoses, oil pans, oil pumps, injectors, fuel pumps

ALL ov those things should be checked during an SR swap. Most will be replaced.

Quote »rebuilt head (cams, springs, porting, etc.) and bottom end (stock rods, stock pistons, stock crank.) for any motor over 50k miles. If you go wtih an SR you have to replace all these things eventually (like you are Jspec in rebuilding)

I am also not talking about 500 rwhp, that is much more than 10 grand. I'm talking about 250 rwhp, MAX. [/quote]

SR does not need to replace any of those things for 250rwhp.

[TrueSlide]

OMG, my car dynoed 900HP, STOCK Botttom end!!!! Stock turbo!!!!!!!!

Oh ya, Intake and exhaust!!!!

[TrueSlide]

So if some fool says he isnt running nitrous, you guys would believe him? Dumb puppies.

[Onizuka]

I'm not talking about bottom ends. Im talking about radiators, coolant hoses, vacuum hoses, oil pans, oil pumps, injectors, fuel pumps, turbos, turbo oil lines, etc. All of these things will be added brand new when you do a KA-T, along with a rebuilt head (cams, springs, porting, etc.) and bottom end (stock rods, stock pistons, stock crank.) for any motor over 50k miles. If you go wtih an SR you have to replace all these things eventually (like you are Jspec in rebuilding)

I am also not talking about 500 rwhp, that is much more than 10 grand. I'm talking about 250 rwhp, MAX.

I'm really not replacing much, im leaving the entire bottom end, valvetrane (no port and polish either), fuel system (i might get injectors) and pumps (oil, water) and whatnot stock because there is no need to replace them if im only going to be making 300hp at the wheels. All the extra stuff i got for my SR (radiator, oilpan) i got for safety reasons i would suggest anybody going KA-T to get as well. Alot of the other stuff you mentioned came with the motor and you dont need to get like you do with the KA-T.

[89240sx]

all the parts lists are right on the sites, buddy.

Ya because the website source of the fictitious vehicle would be a very reliable source of information. :rolleyes

[tinted]

ALL ov those things should be checked during an SR swap. Most will be replaced.

And that = money, the same amount of money that would be used to replace the same things on the KA.

SR does not need to replace any of those things for 250rwhp.

Yes but you have to buy those things in the first place(the infamous SR front clip) the same money would be going towards buying pistons, Engine managment , etc.

So all in all its about the same amount of money. People readily recommend in the SR section to have at least 5500 ready to spend. That same money could have you a turbo, manifold, rebuild, radiator, intercooler, hacked maf, injectors, etc.

As someone said earlier, the money doesn't matter, it could be more one way, or more the other way depending on what happends during your install and running of the engine. The difference is where the power is.

[Onizuka]

Yes but you have to buy those things in the first place(the infamous SR front clip) the same money would be going towards buying pistons, Engine managment , etc.

So all in all its about the same amount of money. People readily recommend in the SR section to have at least 5500 ready to spend. That same money could have you a turbo, manifold, rebuild, radiator, intercooler, hacked maf, injectors, etc.

and engine managment for the KA would cost way more than $2,000. Turbos generally cost at least $500, manifolds, intercooler and just about everything you mentioned could easily cost more then $7,000.

[tinted]

Engine management does not cost more than 2000 for the 5-7 PSI KA

JWT ECU...or If you could hack the S13 MAF which i don't think has been done yet.

[Onizuka]

Ya because the website source of the fictitious vehicle would be a very reliable source of information. :rolleyes

I have personaly bought parts from both phase2 and enjuku, i have a freind down in florida how frequents the enjuku shop regularly and has seen their project car, and MANY people on this board in southern california have been to the phase2 shop and seen their car. Personally i dont give a **** wheather or not you belive me or not because myself and others know it is true.

[Cyberkreig]

tinted, you have a really good point.

200-300-400 hp out of a 4cyl = MONEY SPENT.

just depends on where and WHEN you want to spend the money.

[89240sx]

oh ok so if I look at the car i'll magically know that it has stock internals?

[Onizuka]

ok your right, several very well respected buisnesses in this community all are part of a massive conspiracy to decive the general public. I mean, why would phase2, enjuku, secret services, heavythrottle and others have a interbuisness contest to see who could sqeeze the most out of a SR's stock bottom end to both increase awarness of their buisness and show the public what the SR can do? Its all just a big hoxe and you uncovered it 89240sx, good job. You are probably the most knowlegeable person on the boards which is clearly evident in the excellent composure of your mature responses. Next time i need someone to tell me that their crap smells good i know who to go to.

[fiznat]

haha 89 hes got a point though... do you really think all 3 of those companies have built blocks and they're just not telling people? you think they're ALL lying? comeon man, you asked for proof on an internet website, and you got internet proof... what more could you ask for.

Besides, unless you want to beleive in the conspiracy j-spec detailed, I dont think you've got much ground to stand on...

[Nathan]

I have one reason I think going KAT is better than SR....well one main reason, and tons of little ones I wont mention. The importation process...is a royal pain in the ***. At least if you want to do it cheaply, and even going through one of the more reputable companies and paying more doesn't guarantee a good motor and a hassle free experience. Not to mention the constant delays. I tried to get an RB25 but just gave up, I would have spent just as much getting it through enjuku, phase2 etc. etc. as I have on my KAT...same goes for the SR, A redtop likely has a lot of miles on it (no, I dont believe the 30,000 miles BS...I think that's probably rare to find) so I'd want an S14 blacktop at least...which would cost me just as much as my KAT and I'll probably make more money out of the KAT as well as knowing the full history of it's assembly. But...most all of Nissan's turbo motors and turboable motors rock in one way or another

[Munchkin]

This isnt what I expected... but eh.

[BaliLover]

Your motor is only as good as the person that builds it. There are many machine shops out there doing work, claiming to know whats going on, who don't have a real clue and will sell you on poor workmanship. I would much rather trust a stock engine than a custom built engine unless the shop that did the work was REALLY knowledgable and backed up their work. Big shops usually = big money. I'm sure that you can turbo a KA without building it, but how long will it hold out and how much boost can you put to it safely?

Either will be fast, one will be easier to find parts for, but the other seems to have more available. One is stock, the other is custom. Is this going to be a daily driver or just a weekend racer? There are alot of questions to throw around before making the decisions.

I have a 92 240sx and I have everything I need to drop my SR in with a ton of aftermarket parts, and as of now I'm up to $6000 including the price of the car. I wouldn't be that high up except that my engine was missing a few things and someone had done a poor welding job on the turbo extension and fuxed it up.

[lessthanjakejohn]

This isnt what I expected... but eh.

you are the one who controls the destiney of your thread :thinker

If you have some different questions, or the same ones ask again in this same thread...