Project for myself and some freinds

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Munchkin
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I plan on buying a 89-93 model 240sx sometime this winter and dropping enough money into it to make it fast. As in decently fast.

I plan on taking a LOT of pictures on a digital camera to put on a few racing websites I have and the website I'll have for the car. I was wondering if I should put them here as a step by step on how to make a cool 240sx for the amount of money im spending.

Forwarning, this is an all non-looks thing. Scratches, minor dents, bad coloring wont matter. i'm going for all speed. I don't care about cosmetics.. yet.

Aside from that, I'd like suggestions. I'm looking at spending 10 grand or less on everything, including the car.

I went into a list with a guy from the forums, CA18dreams or something, but I want a second opinion. From the research I've done, our setup sounds pretty airtight but I wanna see if I have any alternatives.

Also, if you have any really reliable sites to buy a sr20det or CA18... im pretty set on the sr20det, but if I can make it better or the same w/ cheaper on the CA18.. well.. yah..

I'm new here, and I've only just started looking into 240sx's, but for what I want to do they look like the best car...

so yah. Respond to this however.. poke fun.. whatever.

IM me if ya like, zackj2001 on most of the day when im not busting my back paying for college.


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89240sx
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if you have 10 grand ... rebuild the KA forged and turbo it

Munchkin
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I dont wanna rebuild it, because depending on how bad the engine is, I'll end up spending more than the 1.8k on the sr20det for less power.

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you can take the SR headache... have fun!

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SR headache?

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89240sx has his head up his ***, a KA24DE turbo will be just as much of a headache as a SR/CA/RB. Good luck on you project and choose the motor YOU want to use, not what somebody else wants you to use.

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The SR will cost about the same in the long run. Parts on SRs wear out costing you more money than what you initially put in. The only slight exception would be a S15 SR or late model S14 SR. 89 + S15 SR + Goodies + Initial Maintenence = just around 10k. Good luck getting a S15 SR though. I'd call Phase2, or Heavythrottle and get on the waiting list for one (an S15 SR)

You could then with an exhaust, intercooler, radiator, small other stuff crank the boost up to 12 or so with no trouble.

If you turbo the KA then you will know exactly how the engine was put together, all the parts will be new or in great condition and you will have a very fast car.

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tinted wrote:The SR will cost about the same in the long run. Parts on SRs wear out costing you more money than what you initially put in. The only slight exception would be a S15 SR or late model S14 SR. 89 + S15 SR + Goodies + Initial Maintenence = just around 10k. Good luck getting a S15 SR though. I'd call Phase2, or Heavythrottle and get on the waiting list for one (an S15 SR)

You could then with an exhaust, intercooler, radiator, small other stuff crank the boost up to 12 or so with no trouble.

If you turbo the KA then you will know exactly how the engine was put together, all the parts will be new or in great condition and you will have a very fast car.


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tinted wrote:The SR will cost about the same in the long run. Parts on SRs wear out costing you more money than what you initially put in.
and parts dont wear out on the KA?

very not true, at least 90% of the people i know running SRs are using the stock bottom end that came with the motor. Phase2motortrend is past the 500rwhp mark on the STOCK bottom end of a junk motor they got from japan. The SR will be more reliable and make more power than a KA-T without a rebuild.

But this is all stupid, any turbo nissan motor is a good choice.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:and parts dont wear out on the KA?

very not true, at least 90% of the people i know running SRs are using the stock bottom end that came with the motor. Phase2motortrend is past the 500rwhp mark on the STOCK bottom end of a junk motor they got from japan. The SR will be more reliable and make more power than a KA-T without a rebuild.

But this is all stupid, any turbo nissan motor is a good choice.


:bsflag , 500rwhp on a stock cast aluminum bottom end? Can't believe that one.

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:Werd

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thats funny, because Phase2(525whp) is doing it and so Is Secret Services (539whp).

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89240sx
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that still is not the point of this conversation

EDIT: and you really can say what you want ... I wont believe you unless there is proof.

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Amazing how ppl can say it has been done, but where is the REAL proof?!?!? Dyno slips?!?! Hell those are just read outs, dont say whats done.

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I knew you two would do that.

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....t=539

Enjoy. There is a vid out there to. I have it. 539dyno2.wmv

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Post up a link to these cars.

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oh a video and a dyno??? OMG I'm proven so completely wrong because that is all the proof right there!!

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Nevermind.

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if you believe this video ... I have some nice florida swampland to sell you

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the cars (KAT or SR) will feel different too, the KA will have some more power lower in the RPM range, while the SR will dominate up top... it depends on where you want your power as well.

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if you are turboing a car, its kinda apparent where you expect yoru power to be.

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Oh ya!!!

SR = God in a motor!

r0x on! :rockon

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89240sx wrote:oh a video and a dyno??? OMG I'm proven so completely wrong because that is all the proof right there!!
you ask for proof and he gives it to you, then you deny it? loser...

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who is a loser the guy who believes some video for proof? come on man that is just naive...

I'm gonna put an SR in my toaster :rolleyes

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http://www.phase2motortrend.com/phase2racecar.html <-- 527hp pictures and dyno charts, stock bottom end

http://enjukuracing.com/subpages/ctw.htm <--- 496hp pictures and dyno graphs, stock bottom end

http://www.secretservicesinc.com/garage.html <--- 539hp pictures, dyno chart, and video, stock bottom end

is that enough proof for you? i can find some more if you want.

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ya dynos....those tell you exactly what is inside the motor :rolleyes

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go ahead, keep denying it and making yourself look like a complete ***

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:go ahead, keep denying it and making yourself look like a complete ***


J-Spec are you just disagreeing because you are jealous that I get edited by smith? :confused:

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:and parts dont wear out on the KA?

very not true, at least 90% of the people i know running SRs are using the stock bottom end that came with the motor. Phase2motortrend is past the 500rwhp mark on the STOCK bottom end of a junk motor they got from japan. The SR will be more reliable and make more power than a KA-T without a rebuild.


I'm not talking about bottom ends. Im talking about radiators, coolant hoses, vacuum hoses, oil pans, oil pumps, injectors, fuel pumps, turbos, turbo oil lines, etc. All of these things will be added brand new when you do a KA-T, along with a rebuilt head (cams, springs, porting, etc.) and bottom end (stock rods, stock pistons, stock crank.) for any motor over 50k miles. If you go wtih an SR you have to replace all these things eventually (like you are Jspec in rebuilding)

I am also not talking about 500 rwhp, that is much more than 10 grand. I'm talking about 250 rwhp, MAX.


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