Problem deciding new car: A4 vs G35 (coupe)

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All the above are very good options, and I'd probably go with the G35c myself. But what about the 2004 VW R32 VR6? Plenty of room, AWD, nice 6-speed, and a 240hp V6. I've always kinda liked the GTI's, and the R32 adds some needed power. As for the Audi, I'd definetly look into the 3.0 model A4.

And just for the hell of it, here's a pic of a delicious G35...



(maybe that will make you want a G35 )


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lol I soooo appreciate everyone's opinion! See I hear the same thing....love the Audi but after warranty good luck with repairs!

I dunno, I've just never been a fan of the Subarus....I just want something more with style and class. THanks dr1ft for that pic....*sigh* its soo hard to decide but Im leaning towards the G35 but if they dont give me a good deal than I will have to just go with an A4. I guess I wont go wrong either way right?

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My buddy bought a Titan this year and he had a good experience with this service:http://www.fightingchance.com/Very personalized service. Granted, a G is a harder car to deal on than a Titan, but my buddy did get a final sale price of $750 over invoice. A little bit of leg work, but there's no haggling and there's a good chance you'll have a done deal before you set foot in the dealership. At the very least this approach will give you the feeling that yes, you did get the absolute best price possible.

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nnkfws333 wrote:I dunno, I've just never been a fan of the Subarus....I just want something more with style and class. THanks dr1ft for that pic....*sigh* its soo hard to decide but Im leaning towards the G35 but if they dont give me a good deal than I will have to just go with an A4.
I'd at least give a Legacy GT Ltd. a drive before I ruled it out. They're very nice cars. Very stylish and refined. If I had the $$$, I'd get the G35 or Legacy GT Ltd, simply because I wouldn't have much faith in the reliability of the A4. Warranty or not, It'd be a pain to have the car in the shop constantly.

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nnkfws333 wrote:*sigh* its soo hard to decide but Im leaning towards the G35 but if they dont give me a good deal than I will have to just go with an A4. I guess I wont go wrong either way right?
OMG, please don't say that.

That's like the equivolent of the finest chick you can think of saying, "I wanna ****", to the salesman. The salesman is gonna screw her/you as much as possible.

You do not Have To get either of those cars.

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Here's my 3 reco's

2004 Subaru WRX STi - MSRP $32,395

2004 Infiniti G35x - MSRP $32,690

2004 IS300 - MSRP $32,519

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well If you just want to choose between those two cars, I would go with Audi. I mean c'mon, you can say "Oops I left my wallet in my Audi"

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Say what? I'd much rather be able to say "Yeah, I was going to fly to Vegas, but I decided I'd much rather arrive there in my Infiniti...with my wallet...that's full of cash."

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I like saying "my Q" or "the Q" -- something about it sounds more mysterious than "my A4"

Try saying these aloud:"Yeah, thats my G-ride""I drive the G""Its a G coupe""Hop in the G"

Sounds good, doesnt it?

Of course, I'd rather say "my Caddy", then walk out to my car with someone, who may be expecting to see a geezer barge, and surprise them with the jet-fighter CTS.



-Jesda

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repo man wrote:A friend of mine bought a pimped-out A4 earlier this year, with the aero package and all and he traded a month later for an R32. If the A4 is what you want, then go for it.
And he still lost to me in both cars out on County Line Road. The R32 was closer than the A4. If I had his choice, I would pick a G/Z over the Audi for power and handling.

1.8T Quatro170 hpCurb Weight 3406lbs

R32240 hpCurb Weight 3409

G 35 6sped280 hpCurb Weight 3435

German automobiles are always heavy.

Interior would have to go to the Audi and VW, but the Nissan/Infiniti would not be far behind. I dont think he can go wrong with any of these cars. I personally would go with an STi right now.

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I would go for an STI but I didn't feel for the ride quality. I felt like it was a track car hence me going with something more luxury. My friend has a STI and i drove with him all day, it was fun to be in but then again when I get off of work at times, I just want a nice smooth ride home.

I know I don't have to choose these cars but these are two cars I like. I never really like 4 door sedans unless its an M5 lol but I was still never a fan of the G35 sedan or even the IS300. I've always believed the A4 comes in luxury than sports, than the G35 which is sports than luxury.

I don't expect the A4 to outhandle/perform the G35 because comeon its a 4 door sedan. Im going into these dealerships willing to walk way. Both of them know I have another car Im looking at so I've been getting cars here and there from both dealerships fighting for my business.

Im just really out of my days of modding and having a fast car. I told myself not to mod either car I buy but I eventually will get a 240sx in a few years again and pop in another motor Sr, RB, ???

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Buy what you will enjoy and get the most out of. Its that plain and simple.

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Well said, Cold Zero.

I just got a ride in an R32 last week at Summit Point Raceway. Car is a true sleeper, quick, agile, nice growl, real nice seats, but when it's all said it's essentially a Audi TT 3.2 DSC with a Golf body and a real stick shift instead of a paddle. Fun car, but I'm not sure subcompact hatchback is what nnk's looking for.

Subies are nice cars, and I've driven a few of them, but you'll quickly notice why they are much less expensive than the Audi/G35 when you sit in them. They are a full notch below in material quality. Still very fun to drive, and very good reliability makes them a wise choice to consider. I considered an WRX/STi when I was shoppin for a sports car (also considered the Evo and S2000) , but the STi's are looks challenged IMHO. After checking them all out, the Z/G package seemed to the best allround deal.... for me that is.

The Cadillac CTS may be fast, but I find them downright ugly. Interior felt cheap to me, and Cadillacs reliability has always been a concern, though I've read that their reliability has slowly been improving.

If you're looking at AWD 4 door sporty cars, BMW's 330XI is a nice car as well. I drove one at the track. Real Real nice, but like the Audi, expect shockingly expensive repairs after the warranty is up.

I think you should test drive them all and have a ball. Enjoy


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oh boy did I test drive those cars...the Audi guy said go ahead and tear up the road....so my foot was like lead. I took every corner hard and it was stuck on the road like white on rice. I did do it with a G but of course I took VCD off and I felt like I was in my 240SX all over again hehe but a tad bit heavier....I looked at the BMW but those thing are downright expensive! This is great responses again and I think this is the best forum I've been on since I started with cars....NICO ROCKS! I guess I will make my decision on next Thursday when I will have a new car...I'll take pics too!

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th g35 coupe is th new skyline wit all weel drive and 260hp its as clode to th r35 as u can get wit out 1

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in all seriousness, you shoudl think about an M5.

A three year old example should still be under warranty, and you might be able to find one in your range...


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I love a M5. Looks good & sporty as hell. But think about the maintenance costs in those cars. Whoa, arm & a leg! Only BMW you should get are M-series.

Personally, I think you should go for a WRX, sporty four door & all whell drive. Or how 'bout a RX-8?

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I have owned an '94 Audi A6 Quattro and in our family we have had a '98 VW Jetta GT and a '01 VW Golf GLS.

These Audi/VW cars, they both share componenets are the biggest pieces of crap, I ever owned. My A6 was brand new, when it drove, it drove incredible, but it was in the shop every other week. After a year of headaches and crappy customer service from VW/Audi North America, I traded it in for a '94 Infiniti J30t.

My wife's Jetta and Golf where pieces of trash with transmission issues, 02 sensor issues (she went through 4 in each vehicle), mysterious electrical issues, transmission issues and indifferent service from every Audi/VW dealer we went to.

A friend of mine has an '03 Audi Allroad, another a fully loaded Jetta 4-motion (same as A4 but slightly cheaper) I warned both of them, but they bought anyway and as a result iare going through Audi/VW service hell.

Audi parts are priced like expensive gold, the way the car is engineered they make it diificult to change/tinker anything, including a lightbulb and any work on the car can only be done by the dealer.

Moral of the story is buy Infiniti.

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Nismo340 wrote:th g35 coupe is th new skyline wit all weel drive and 260hp its as clode to th r35 as u can get wit out 1

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Bubba1 wrote:The Cadillac CTS may be fast,
I think there is a -V on the end of that car name.bud

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Cold_Zero wrote:
LOL! I, as well as the rest of this threads posters are stumped. WTF is he trying to tell us?

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he is trying to say that the g35 coupe is not the new skyline. why would they give the skyline less hp than the last one. plus the closest we will be able to get to a skyline is in about 2007 when they bring it over here.

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After me mentioning the Legacy GT, I'm looking at one of those for myself. It's a nice looking car, with plenty of room and power, hmmm.....decisions decisions.

Have you made any decisions yet concerning your case?

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Well I really haven't...it's really tough. I would get the G35 in a heartbeat but the thing is I can save a good $100 a month on getting the A4....too me that is really a lot of money since I plan on moving out too and getting my own townhouse. but on the other hand I know I will kick me @$$ if I don't get the G35...I'm in love with both but I think it's just gonna come down to who gives me the better deal. Im going to hack Infiniti to giving me the G35 at the greatest deal possible because Im already seeing 2005's pop up at the dealerships and they still have like 9 2004 coupes left!!! Im thinking about asking for 33-34 thousand out the door for a G35 coupe with Premium Package. The dealer told me they can go close to invoice as possible!!!

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Good luck. Get the G.

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Hey rydwhite I tried to IM you but your not on aim? I was going to ask you a few questions.

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driverdriver wrote:These Audi/VW cars, they both share componenets are the biggest pieces of crap, I ever owned. My A6 was brand new, when it drove, it drove incredible, but it was in the shop every other week.
Your description of your Audi/VW cars is exactly the same as my description of My 92 Q45. It's great When it runs, but it's a real pain in the a$$ when it breaks "every other week".
nnkfws333 wrote: The dealer told me they can go close to invoice as possible!!!
The dealer is lying through their teeth if they actually told you that. The dealer can usually take off ~$10k from the asking price and still make a profit.Moral of the story: Dealers lie. They will say anything to get you to buy a car.
nnkfws333 wrote:I would get the G35 in a heartbeat but the thing is I can save a good $100 a month on getting the A4....too me that is really a lot of money since I plan on moving out too and getting my own townhouse. but on the other hand I know I will kick me @$$ if I don't get the G35...I'm in love with both but I think it's just gonna come down to who gives me the better deal.
Why not get the A4 and use the ~$5k that you saved to upgrade the performance. You could probably make the A4 a really "fast" car with ~$5k of wisely chosen mods.

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Former Infiniti car saleman here from northern California. Ask yourself this question: If both cars were the same price which one would you get? I know for a FACT you can get a G coupe for the price you're looking for. It sounds like the Audi is your favorite choice for the price. You may spend less now, but it'll turn into more later when that warranty expires and you are coming out of pocket. How many times are you going to use the back doors? You're used to 2 doors and have been more comfortable with it, so why stop now? Because you're getting older? I sold an 82 year old man a G35 coupe because he was tired of his Passat making him feel old.

Get what you know you want or get nothing at all. You want an 04 but you can actually get an 03 possibly that was a dealership demo somewhere for around 27k. You can't go wrong with a demo. Even with a used one (03 model) that isn't a demo, demand that the dealer check anything that would be of concern and have them show you the results (yes they'll be honest). If brakes worry you and they aren't up to your standards, make the dealer replace them. And so on. If '04 is what you want, use Carsdirect.com. Work your numbers there and take them to the dealer. Don't be afraid to try another Infiniti dealer up to 100 miles away. If it's the car you want then it's worth the drive. Trust me, an Infiniti dealer would rather you buy an Audi than go to another Infiniti dealer and get the car you want. They'll work your deal. Trust me on that one. Just tell them what you want and make sure they now you'll take no less.

With your 240sx you have to be used to having the ability to go fast when you really want to. What's going to happen with the Audi? You might not always speed if you have the G35 Coupe but there will be days you'll want to. Not to mention that the G35 will be the car to have for many many years to come. The A4 has no real enthusiast history behind it. It's really hard to compare these two cars because in my opinion they don't compare. The best thing I can say is to go with what's going to work for you long term and don't settle for less.

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If you haven't gone to test drive a Subaru Legacy GT, do it now!! I just got back from test driving a GT Limited. The car has some get up and go, is luxurious, roomy, comfy, and handles very well. And it's less than either of the other two cars your looking at.

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I think there is a -V on the end of that car name.bud[/QUOTE]

Hi Bud, the V doesn't change my opinion. I'd love to test drive one, as I understand they're fast. But I still think they're too ugly to consider ever owning one. The chiseled angular look just doesn't do it for me, plus the interior felt cheap and uninspired. I'll grant you it was comfortable, but I'm not yet convinced GM builds a reliable enough car for me to buy...yet. I think they're getting better but they still lag behind the Japanese offerings.

The only angular Caddy I think looks okay is the XLR, but there are other cars I'd buy before that too. Sorry.


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