Possible sr20det shortage??

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pampadori
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europe and austrailia have s14 and s14 sr20det's. they also got grey market s13 sr's. all you worry warts better hurry up and get your sr20's while you can! quikly! i don't think we will have a shortage for a few years. shaun


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GatorS14
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or just buy all of the ka's people are getting rid of for the sr's and turbo dem ho's

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Does anyone ever import engines (CA's in particular) from Europe?

Onizuka
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the reason they get engines from japan is they they are always in better condition (well for the most part) than other countries. Its all due to japanese traffic + Automotive laws and driving habits that creats generally low milage engines without a lot of wear.

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Yeah, thats what I figured...for some reason I was just curious :) Besides, I dont know how much I trust the general less than 50k mileage promises they all have...a part of me just cant fathom NOT driving at least 15k miles a year and cant quite wrap my mind around the Japanese not doing it either.

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I checked with my guys over seas about the X-trail. In their opinion, there are way to many headaches involved to try to get complete packages out of that vehicle. One of the guys still doesn't think it is the same engine.

J-Spec is correct about the European SRs. I can get them from Europe cheap and there are more there than in Japan for sure. The bad news is they have the miles that you would expect from a 10 year old car on them. That is why I never pursued getting them from there - it would add to the amount of junk that would be comming in. I have heard that you can tell if a clip is a European on by the VIN plate on the firewall, which is another reason to go will a full clip. I guess I could try to source some s15s which would have miles like we all would want, but the modifications on that install are kind of a pain.

If things do really start to dry up, I do have one last card to play. I will keep everyone posted.

ZERO
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I figured as much, but it was just a thought.

one more question though... Is there anyone here in the states that buys used on blown JDM engines for rebuild and then sells them?

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NEED4BOOST wrote:Great now car theives will be stalking the SR powered 240's instead of the Type R's :mad:

And yes I am a statistic...my Type R was stolen :(


:Werd

There was a pretty good discussion on various alarm systems about a month or so ago. I've already seen a couple of the locals taking long looks at my car. Come to think of it, I'm more worried about my car getting jacked than I am having it wrecked, getting it past smog, or finding replacement parts when things start breaking.

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cardinal wrote:I checked with my guys over seas about the X-trail. In their opinion, there are way to many headaches involved to try to get complete packages out of that vehicle. One of the guys still doesn't think it is the same engine.

J-Spec is correct about the European SRs. I can get them from Europe cheap and there are more there than in Japan for sure. The bad news is they have the miles that you would expect from a 10 year old car on them. That is why I never pursued getting them from there - it would add to the amount of junk that would be comming in. I have heard that you can tell if a clip is a European on by the VIN plate on the firewall, which is another reason to go will a full clip. I guess I could try to source some s15s which would have miles like we all would want, but the modifications on that install are kind of a pain.

If things do really start to dry up, I do have one last card to play. I will keep everyone posted.


Its not the same engine. This swap is recommended as a alternative for the Sentra and SER's. The Xtrail motor is a SR20VET. And since its a swap for the Sentras, it means its set up fwd style but with a transfer case for awd.

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I always thought that if it were an sr20 in an X-trail it would have been mounted lengthwise since here in the states the X-terra is rear drive(or so I think).

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the x-trail is not the same as the x-terra.. the x-trail is based off a FWD car, x-terra based off the frontier.

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thanks for the correction...

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GodzillaFan wrote:the xtrail is not the same as the xterra.. the xterra is based off a FWD car, xterra based off the frontier.


I'm confused, so the Xterra is based on a fwd car? and a truck???:confused:

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he meant to say the Xtrail is base off a FWD,.

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hey gators14 where do u live on G-ville im there too!

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hokiruu
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slw240sx wrote:wonder what it would cost to set up a engine manufactoring plant and produce New Sr20dets over here in america?? anyone have a really really really rich friend or relative that has a few millions to blow on helping out the nissan culture ???
I dunno about manufacturing, but I think you just tapped a profitable market- remanufacturing! Buy all the crap SRs and rebuild them to higher tolerances! Then you could just buy one of those for like 1500 more than what some places charge for a reg. ol' SR, and you could run like 400 hp on the new internals!

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Oh, and here's another issue: Remember, there are alot of SRs still tied up in the s15! It will be interesting to see how the tables turn on the importers and swappers. For years the s15 motor has been advertised and priced like an exotic rarety because it is so new. I think that if our second hand SR market really does suffer this supposed shortage, s15 motors will *eventually* become the norm for our favorite lil' swap! And then there will heated lil' discussions all over the board, with Noobs all pro-S15. As much as I would like to believe our esoteric demand for the SR has had no effect on their availability, you can already see this shortage affecting importers like Neishlin. They used to always have S13s and maybe a few s14s. Now it is totally the opposite. I guess I better get crackin on that S14 motor I've been getting ready to buy!

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lessthanjakejohn wrote:he meant to say the Xtrail is base off a FWD,.


fixed post :D

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There IS an importer here in the states that sells what I believe they call "race built" or something like that bottom ends and they sell SR heads too...so basically there allready is someone rebuilding them and selling them, but the bottom end is something like 4000...unfortunately I can NOT find their website right now.

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hokiruu
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$4k... for just the bottom end! ***** that!

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hokiruu wrote:$4k... for just the bottom end! ***** that!


if thats with an aftermarket stroker kit, and resleeved block... thats a bad *** deal

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hokiruu
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GodzillaFan wrote:if thats with an aftermarket stroker kit, and resleeved block... thats a bad *** deal
Hmm. I guess that's true. Add on the price of a (built/ported?) head and you might have an absolute monster. Of course you would still need all kinds of other stuff, like Turbo, manifold, ECU, Harness, Etc. and WOW, we're in the $7-8000 range. Interestingly enough, that's what I am hoping to put into my swap! Hey think you could dig up that link or at least try to remember a name to search or something?

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yeah, I have NO idea if thats with the stroker kit and resleeved block, it didnt have a good description and I couldnt find the site when I went looking today, maybe I'll run across it soon...


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