poll: if you have 1000, would you spend it on

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yeah, if you have 1000, woudl you spend it on one of the follow?

S15 GARRETT T28 Turbo 91F00HKS Stainless steel Manifold

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TODA SR20DE(T) Adjustable CAM PulleysTODA SR20DE(T) Intake CamshaftTODA SR20DE(T) Exhaust CamshaftTODA SR20DE(T) Valve Springs


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since you don't have what i want i would spend it on rebuilding my ka to beable to boost like 10 pounds

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If I had a choice I would pick coilovers, bur since that's not on the list, I vote for the turbo I guess

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i dont really care for the s15 turbo not really a big amount of hp for the money.

head work sounds cool maybe 264/272 camshafts.

i think if i had 1k for performance id do a toda or jun chromoly flywheel and a 1 piece light driveshaft.

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save up for a new car, or more likely save it for college next year.

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coilovers

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since i dont have an sr20, i would go for cams, header, kyb/agx shocks with eiback prokit springs, head work, wheels, ITBs with safc, lightweight driveshaft, flywheel, clutch, pullies, the list goes on...... or any combination of the listed

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Axel Grungy wrote:coilovers
AMEN!!!

Handling before power baby!

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'go mods' are always good

Turbo + HKS mani

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I voted turbo and manifold.

Myself, I would put it toward an rb25. I have been dying to get my car painted since November, and now that I have all the money I need I don't know if that is really what I want to spend it on, lol.

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[QUOTE=2BN_S13]AMEN!!!

Handling before power baby! [/QUOTE

If u plan to do drift much, power should be first, hands down.


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eliterit wrote:
2BN_S13 wrote:AMEN!!!

Handling before power baby! [/QUOTE

If u plan to do drift much, power should be first, hands down.
owch no, suspension always comes first. having power w/o cornering ability is just silly

drifting is more skill/technique than raw power.

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Axel Grungy wrote:owch no, suspension always comes first. having power w/o cornering ability is just silly

drifting is more skill/technique than raw power.
i'm not saying drifting does not require skill/technique

im tired of everyone thinking you have to have a coilover suspension to drift.

I'm just giving my help from experience with an underpowered car *ka motor* cough *.. to a car with decent power *sr motor *cough*

both on pretty much stock suspension setup

i drift 10babillion times better now.

but if you were to get bolt ons for a ka instead of a coilover suspenion. THEN, is the time i would say go for the coilovers.

The reason i say power is due to the fact that you can keep your momentum going through drifts, especially in a low speed turn.

...anyway, back on topic

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I guess this post took a wrong turn. fro s15 turbo and hks mani vs Toda internal to suspention and drifting. i voted for the Toda stuff, 1st cuz they are more helpfull in the long run ( in my opinion) and second you can upgrade to better turbo once you have built your internals the right way. suspention is always good cuz if you got bunch of HP and no handleing you end up with a Ford muscle car

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I'd buy some gold teeth

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HashiriyaS14 wrote:I'd buy some gold teeth
i dont know...id prob go with the diamond encrusted ones...

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I remember on the news there was a girl in taiwan, got robbed, she was nervous and can't get her gold bracelet off so the robber cut her ****ing arm off and they couldn't find her arm

now, the same robber might break your ****ing teeth with a mallet or hammer

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Juujai wrote:i dont really care for the s15 turbo not really a big amount of hp for the money..
Name one other dual ball bearing 300whp capable bolt on turbo that can be had for $750 brand new. Im listening

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I have to agree with handling before power. My case is a little extreme, but have full suspension; tein NA shocks/springs, cusco struts, ST sways, and tc rods yet no engine (its at the shop gettign rebuilt)

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sigh... the choice was between the 2, not anything else

in any case, I have agx/sportline/ST sway bars/cusco strut bars already. coilovers are not that cost effective for me since I jump over bumps without a thought of slowing down. In the event that the shocks blow, another 300 to 500 will remedy the problem instead of the 1000~1500 for a entry level set of coilovers.

I might get the turbo/manifold... all I really wanted was the manifold really but mind as well.

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the thing is when buying parts from factory its a big rip off. basically its a garrett turbo so you can check out the full line of garrett turbos and choose upon preference size, trim, wheel, how fast it spools whatever.

theres the t3/4e with .58a/r and 45 trim that can push up to 350hp for about 675.

the gt25/40r that can push 450hp which is also similar to the one hks has for 2grand that can be had for 900~ from garrett.

you can buy the s15 t28 if you want though i just dont think its worth it.

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The S15 turbo is on par with the "disco potato" GT25R in terms of spool and power and is $300 less. I have never found a dual ball bearing turbo for less than $1000 other than the S15 T28 (If you can find them, please post links for me!). Granted its not the turbo for everyone, but as far as inexpensive bolt-ons go, its really hard to beat.

I'm not impressed with peak horsepower, I'm a "area under the curve" and transient response kind of guy.

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nismojunkie wrote:since i dont have an sr20, i would go for cams, header, kyb/agx shocks with eiback prokit springs, head work, wheels, ITBs with safc, lightweight driveshaft, flywheel, clutch, pullies, the list goes on...... or any combination of the listed
He said a $1,000 not $10,000 lol

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:The S15 turbo is on par with the "disco potato" GT25R in terms of spool and power and is $300 less. I have never found a dual ball bearing turbo for less than $1000 other than the S15 T28 (If you can find them, please post links for me!). Granted its not the turbo for everyone, but as far as inexpensive bolt-ons go, its really hard to beat.

I'm not impressed with peak horsepower, I'm a "area under the curve" and transient response kind of guy.
you mustve been searching through phase2motortrend and didnt see any turbos for under 1k besides the t28. i just listed 2 turbos available for under 1k. i think phase2motor just overcharged for the gt25r.

http://optionimports.com/garrettgt25r.h ... 2540r.html

both i might add are also dual ball bearing and spool psycho fast. i'd recommend the 2540 over the gt25r for hp reasons. also for a daily driver/track weekend car itll be nice too. you can save some fuel by spooling a little less and in most tracks you'll be in the mid-upper rpms so it should be fine not that it lags very much. its still very fast spooling but has a better high end. then theres the 28rs thats even faster spooling but itll cost you a bit more.

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rent

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Ok first, my mistake, the GT25R is rated at about 250hp and is not the disco. The disco is the GT28RS rated for 340hp with the big .86 A/R and 300 for the .64A/R. The S15 turbo is the GT28R, which essensially the same exact thing as the GT28RS with the .64 A/R.

I dont know whats up with that option imports place, but there is no such thing as a GT25/40R, at least according to garretts official catalog. The GT25R (ball bearing and watercooled) is small and rated for around 250hp. The GT40 (no R, hence non-ball bearing) is gigantic and rated for 700hp.

I still hold to my origional statment, there is no turbo on the market that can match the S15 T28's performance for anywhere near its price.

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http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup...s.htm

check out what the guy says about the gt2540r. the 2540 is probably the best buy in my opinion for limited budget/starving college students.

if i really wanted the 28 from the s15 so bad i wouldve just gotten a s15 front clip with driveshaft lsd etc. save some money and in the long run get a newer motor. i wouldnt want to spend so much money on an engine swap add bigger injectors, better cooling etc just to get 250-300~hp.

look through thishttp://www.that dead forum/showthread.php?t=26940they also talk about the gt2540r

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the 2540 is an hks unit

my guess would be since that person is in australia they just get it as a garrett unit, since all hks turbos are are rebadged garrett units

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Juujai wrote:http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup...s.htm

check out what the guy says about the gt2540r. the 2540 is probably the best buy in my opinion for limited budget/starving college students.

if i really wanted the 28 from the s15 so bad i wouldve just gotten a s15 front clip with driveshaft lsd etc. save some money and in the long run get a newer motor. i wouldnt want to spend so much money on an engine swap add bigger injectors, better cooling etc just to get 250-300~hp.

look through thishttp://www.that dead forum/showthread.php?t=26940they also talk about the gt2540r
Im sorry but I dont see how a s15 clip would be cheaper to get, easier to install, and make more power. Last time I check prices were around $5000, not including the large cost to swap it in since it does not bolt in.

Having an excess of fuel injector capacity and cooling is important for any car that will be used at a track year-round regardless of the power it is making. Good try at bashing my setup though, looks like I better get my flame suit on.

The designation GT2540(R) belongs to a HKS turbo (made by garrett) and retails for $1900-2500.

Let try and not get into custom turbos with no listed pricing.

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spend the money on hookers and booze


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