plz dont be too biased mustang vs. 240sx

[sensibleS13driver]

I used to have a 5.0, 55k miles, it got stolen from in front of my house . 240 vs. 5.0 is a situation where you have to compromise, I like them both. A friend of mine with a 240 bought a 5.0 Highway within the last week, WTF designed that transmission?! That and the overall boatiness are my only gripes with them. Either car is great

[rubin]

thancks for all the comments guys... really appreciate it

gonna look into how much it will REALLY cost to do the suspension mods I'm considering to the stang and if it isnt too much ill probably be heading that routeill post the results later

i still love sylvias and no doubt I will own an sr20 powered beast one day

the way i was thinking is if a mustang weighs 2900 with a 5L, how much would it weigh with an sr?????

maybe I'll be the first to do an sr swap in a stang

if someone has the weights of an sr vs. 302 that'd help

rubin, you have already mistaken the picture you showed everybody. That is not a black GT. That is a 1993 Cobra. Unless someone put wheels and a badge on a GT.

sorry I didnt notice the badge on the side and figured the rims were just a mod... i just saw the body kit so figured it was a gtEDIT: how do you know its a 93? didnt they make cobras 87-93 and they all looked the same?

[Nismo_Freak]

rx7 old/new fc3s fd3s come on now, miata roadster na/nb, s2000, mr2 with supercharger, mr2 sw20, mr-s, 80's corolla/trueno/levin any of these cars will tear apart the 240 in the handling department.

Each car has it's ups and downs.

An 80's Corolla? You have to be kidding me. These cars don't handle for crap and have a chassis made out of balsa wood and unless you get a 4AGE you have a motor that is less powerful than my lawnmower. They are popular because they are light, RWD, and a cult classic.

The 240 is expensive to mod, because it really has no strong points. However what you gain with other cars you have to pay for just the same. You can't touch an FD for under 10k that is worth a damn. All those other cars you pay the same price for but have the same problems (dead suspension, old motors, etc.)

There is little to be said about comparing 10 yr. old cars.

[rubin]

how do you know its a 93? didnt they make cobras 87-93 and they all looked the same?

just double chacked and cobras were only made in 93 so forget that post

[HashiriyaS14]

Honestly, the Fox Stang and the S13 are just completely different animals, I figure you've already got your mind pretty well made up.

If you want an S13, get an S13.

If you want a Stang, don't. Get a C4 vette.

I've actually got nothing against Mustangs, I just happen to really like Corvettes.

Have you thought about a used Miata? Don't knock it till you drive it.

[Aries]

they're both very nice, well built cars (see sig) the thing is, drive a few of each and then make your decisions.

[masticatingcow]

I agree with NismoFreak... juujai talks like the 240sx is the worst thing to happen to the import scene and doesn't hold a candle to other, supposedly "similar" RWD imports. Not true. Even WITH the dori-dori inspired prices on Nissan's S chassis cars, you can't beat the 240sx for performance, versatility, style and relability.

We'll be pessimistic and say that you can't get a solid S13 for less than $3000... sad but true in many places. For $3000, you can't get an N/A FC3S under 150K miles, at which point it is well known that the rotary needs to be rebuilt, and nevermind if you want a TII FC that will last you more than a couple months; their rotaries tend to die even faster... for $3000, the only MR2 you could ever get would be the weaksauce first-gen NA model with the chassis rigidity of a soda can... you might be able to get a Miata for $3000, but then you're driving a Miata. LOL, seriously, the only thing that underpowered droptop eggshell has going for it is a great stock suspension... a stock suspension that, I might add, by the time you buy it, will be too old to matter.

Oh, and then we talk about S2000s and FD3Ss... okay, well, let me just say that for the $20000 you'd be lucky to find a used S2000 for, you could make the S13 handle better and produce MUCH more power than an F20 engine at a MUCH more realistic place on the tachometer. And with the FD3S, you run into the same rotary reliability problem that TII FCs have.

EDIT: In retrospect, I realize I did not add much to the thread... so, my vote is for the 240sx, but only because I hate not Mustangs, but a lot of the jerks that drive them around here.

[HashiriyaS14]

I've seen a number of NA FC3S's for under $3000, and I'm in a pretty price-inflated area. Properly taken care of, an NA 13b will run for a billion years.

How about other RWD cars?-Z31-S30-Cressida-Infiniti M30 (Leopard)-SA22 RX-7-Mk II or III Supra-Old School Celica-AE86-Mitsu Starion Turbo

Remember, he's not in SoCal, NY, DC, or anything like that. Prices in Vancouver are going to be way the hells lower than SoCal prices.

Since you're so far up north, have you thought about any of the following turbo AWD cars?-Galant VR4-Celica All-Trac-323 GTX-1st Gen Eclipse GSX

[masticatingcow]

Properly taken care of, an NA 13b will run for a billion years.

Except practically no one knows how to "properly take care of" a 13B. You're running a HUGE risk if you ASSUME that for the last (at least) 15 years the 13B in the FC you just bought was "properly" cared for. I'd bet that it wasn't.

[Juujai]

There is little to be said about comparing 10 yr. old cars.

that is true because it's either a hit or miss sometimes when it comes to old cars.

those 86s are pretty smooth handling atleast the one's i've driven. i like the way it feels on the road even though its not very quick.

well if you compare 240 +sr or (ka-t to be unbiased to the ka-t people) +5lug+big brakes +whatever else you need to dump into there to make it comparable to the rx7 the price will be about the same. average fd3s around our area is about 13-15k and all of them i checked out are really well maintained because they're all rotary diehards that own em.

what im saying is you can compare these cars because most of them offer other things better than the 240 has stock. but not a lot of people have the money to fork all at once.

[Nanaimo]

Quote »Prices in Vancouver are going to be way the hells lower than SoCal prices.[/quote]Umm, not very likely. It's one of the highest income markets in Canada. People in the Vancouver Island Datsun Enthusiasts club (just across the Straight of Georgia from Vancouver) go to Southern California to get their 510s/Z-cars as they're cheaper there.

[sanioll]

5-liter fox body stang: Awesome drivetrain in a crap package.

2.4 liter 240sx: Weak drivetrain in an awesome package.

I'd love a 93 LX 5.0 droptop, white on white.

hmmmm.... i always knew that 240sx had a very strong drivetrain, capable of holding 400hp on a stock transmission.

you mean engine is weak in stock form?

[rubin]

Remember, he's not in SoCal, NY, DC, or anything like that. Prices in Vancouver are going to be way the hells lower than SoCal prices.

this is funny to me cuz 240's will averagely go for 5000+ for the earlier ones, a 93 will go for like 7 easy and the 95+ could go for like 15

cars here are very expensive this is another thing thats holding me back because I'm planning to move down to michigan in a couple years for schooling and i know that cars and parts will be cheaper there so I'm holding building me a fast car till then. for now i just need a stocker that will get me from point a to b, this is why I'm even considering the 240, cuz in stock form it has its benefits.

Since you're so far up north, have you thought about any of the following turbo AWD cars?-Galant VR4-Celica All-Trac-323 GTX-1st Gen Eclipse GSX

this is freaking halarious... since im up north? meaning we have snow like 10 months of the year? so no point having a RWD cuz cant use it till the summer? we'll be lucky if we get like 7 solid days of snow here.

and we dont live in igloos either

EDIT: if anyones curious what prices are like in canada go to buysell.com mind you the prices will be canadian

[Nanaimo]

Plus when you get out of the city there are lots of twisty, hilly roads to have fun on. I just hit the edge of my (driving skill/car's handling) envelope. Really, even with cheap *** Canadian Tire store brand performance tires, a stock 240 has to be going pretty fast to lose it going around a corner on a dry road.

Anyhoo, I gotta go drop off my car to get some work done.

[rubin]

There might be a slight change of plans, i might be able to get a 1970 camaro w/ split bumper VERY CHEAP but no motori will check out the what it looks like soon

HORRIBLE handlingno motor --> SLOW

lets see someone compare a 240 to that

[rubin]

for those of you that dont quite know what a 1970 looks like:

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/523078

[xyoufailmex]

Just go buy a 1993 Z28 for 3-4k. Handles better than a foxbody IMO and will run 11s with a blower.